Goodell a great Commish for the times

[Diehardblues]

Goodell’s goal of reaching 25 billion a year is still in view. Unfortunately the increase in revenue over the years under his watch hasn’t always been good for the fans.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.c...hing-toward-goodells-25-billion-revenue-goal/

 

[Haimerej]

Goodell’s goal of reaching 25 billion a year is still in view. Unfortunately the increase in revenue over the years under his watch hasn’t always been good for the fans.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.c...hing-toward-goodells-25-billion-revenue-goal/

Do you really believe this wouldn't have happened, "but for Goodell"? The guy came into the most popular sport in America and as far as I can tell, the sport has continued on it's projected path in spite of him.

 

[aria]

Ok, but you miss the point,, RG had the power to take DBs out of the game.
RG had the power to change fundamental football rules that changed this game forever.
That was on RG,,, sure owners telling him to do so,, but a real man stands up and lays down his own rules...
Roger Goodell is a bought and payed for fool. He is not a man, he is a puppet that all the owners love,, just ask the pusher of this thread.

I may have missed the point I wasn’t looking for it. I admit I’m 100% guilty of reading the first page or two of this thread a day or two ago and then I just randomly clicked on page 13-14 IIRC. The first post I read that stood out yours that said “your best post yet” so I used the little arrow to see who you were talking to. I then read CC’s post which inspired my post.

Anything else I have no idea, I was just speaking off the cuff based on what CC said.

As far as what you said. I agree, but in all fairness he’s in a tough spot. Maybe he wants to rule with an iron fiat but none of the owners want that because none of them want to lose one of their “investments” due to suspension. The owners pay his bills, if he doesn’t appease them then he loses his job. It’s a fine line and I’m sure it’s not easy.

If you think about it, the way the NFL is set up is ridiculous. The owners should have no control over the commissioner because you’re right, he becomes a paid puppet. If a separate entity was responsible for hiring the commissioner than you would probably see an entirely different Goodell for better or worse.

 

[Diehardblues]

Saved it from what?

You’re aware of how CTE threatened the existence of the NFL until major rule changes were implemented and benefits paid out to players to avoid further legal battles?

it was an issue the league had ignored before. And if legal battles had continued without taking action there’s a good possibility could have reached Congress threatening the NFL Anti Trust designations.

 

[Diehardblues]

Do you really believe this wouldn't have happened, "but for Goodell"? The guy came into the most popular sport in America and as far as I can tell, the sport has continued on it's projected path in spite of him.

That’s your opinion but not actually how it’s being written.

 

[Haimerej]

You’re aware of how CTE threatened the existence of the NFL until major rule changes were implemented and benefits paid out to players to avoid further legal battles?

it was an issue the league had ignored before. And if legal battles had continued there’s a good possibility could have reached Congress threatening the NFL Anti Trust designations.

You credit Goodell? He was completely reactionary.

 

[Haimerej]

That’s your opinion but not actually how it’s being written.

That wasn't an opinion. It was a question to you.

 

[gjkoeppen]

Do you really believe this wouldn't have happened, "but for Goodell"? The guy came into the most popular sport in America and as far as I can tell, the sport has continued on it's projected path in spite of him.

Actually the number of viewers for most season games has dropped for the last 3 years. The NFL had always had such huge numbers that what they are now is still better than other programs but it's still a trend the networks will try to use.
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[Haimerej]

Actually the number of viewers for most season games has dropped for the last 3 years. The NFL had always had such huge numbers that what they are now is still better than other programs but it's still a trend the networks will try to use.
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Yeah. That's what makes this whole assertion about him being accomplished seem nonsensical. Goodell rode the wave of the sport's popularity when he took over. He's presided over one of the most tarnished dynasties the sport has ever had (NE). In an effort to reach out to new fans he's jumped on the social issue bandwagon to the alienation of a significant portion of the historical fan base.

They've changed rules to the point that traditional football has become penalized. Every year seems to see a new penalty/referee scandal. What has the guy actually done that can be viewed as a positive for the sport?

 

[Diehardblues]

Actually the number of viewers for most season games has dropped for the last 3 years. The NFL had always had such huge numbers that what they are now is still better than other programs but it's still a trend the networks will try to use.
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TV viewership is definitely an issue for the Networks and their survival long term with other medians for fans to choose from. But the NFL decrease is significantly less than other live sports and programming.

Why the league added two additional playoff teams and games . And looking to add a 17th game as soon as 2021. But the NFL and live sporting events is still a cash cow for the Networks reaching more viewers than most programming which helps lead viewers into other network programming.

Also, I’d look for the NFL to continue expanding in their Yahoo , other Internet possibilities along with Fantasy and the gambling which is likely to take off soon in states where it’s legal. Cowboys were first team with a Casino as an official sponsor with Winstar on Oklahoma border .

 

[Diehardblues]

Yeah. That's what makes this whole assertion about him being accomplished seem nonsensical. Goodell rode the wave of the sport's popularity when he took over. He's presided over one of the most tarnished dynasties the sport has ever had (NE). In an effort to reach out to new fans he's jumped on the social issue bandwagon to the alienation of a significant portion of the historical fan base.

They've changed rules to the point that traditional football has become penalized. Every year seems to see a new penalty/referee scandal. What has the guy actually done that can be viewed as a positive for the sport?

I’m not sure the league and or the sport survives without the rule changes to lessen head contact and concussions. The legal battles alone could still threaten the sport down the road.

But the actions taken by the owners and the league under Goodell’s watch has pacified their opponents and settled lawsuits presently.

 

[Haimerej]

I’m not sure the league and or the sport survives without the rule changes to lessen head contact and concussions. The legal battles alone could still threaten the sport down the road.

But the actions taken by the owners and the league under Goodell’s watch has pacified their opponents and settled lawsuits presently.

Again, it was a reaction. Maybe if Goodell were proactive and tackled the issue before he had to, you would have a point.

 

[Diehardblues]

Again, it was a reaction. Maybe if Goodell were proactive and tackled the issue before he had to, you would have a point.

Previous ownership and Commish ignored the issue.

As usual these governing bodies only react when forced to . But I would agree. The league should have been proactive decades ago. They’ve known about it.

 

[Haimerej]

Previous ownership and Commish ignored the issue. As usual these governing bodies only react when forced to . But I would agree. The league should have been proactive decades ago. They’ve known about it.

He ignored it, too. I don't see why you can congratulate him for occupying the job when the issue became loud enough for people to care.

 

[Diehardblues]

He ignored it, too. I don't see why you can congratulate him for occupying the job when the issue became loud enough for people to care.

I understand but since it’s under his watch he does get credit. The same would have been true for anyone else during their tenure.

 

[kskboys]

I guess they weren't. I mistook the ban in the 60's for the Olympics as more than it was.

But doesn't that reveal the bankruptcy of the stand against pot?

Of course not. It's all about what looks good and what doesn't. The perception of the league being a bunch of potheads could cost them fans/money. No more complicated.

 

[kskboys]

So everything you personally don't like you've been brainwashed to think that? I don't like goodell not that I'm brainwashed, but because of what I personally think about what he has done and what he hasn't done. Brainwashing has less than zero to do with it.
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Your response does not follow at all. I'm not even sure what you're trying to say.

 

[CowboyRoy]

You’ve said you followed me on the old Cowboys forum . Everyone knew my personal history.

And the owners wouldn’t pay the players if they didn’t feel they were worth it or the money wasn’t there.

I don’t suppose your old enough to recall when the owners didn’t or couldn’t pay the players enough.

only thing that follows you is your sad devotion to Garrett.

 

[gjkoeppen]

Your response does not follow at all. I'm not even sure what you're trying to say.

This is what you said in a response to me. "Hating him means people have been brainwashed." The him is goodell so I asked you if everything you don't like if you were brainwashed into not liking it, or a person. I then told you that my dislike for goodell has zero to do with brainwashing but what I personally think about what he has done and what he hasn't done.
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[Diehardblues]

only thing that follows you is your sad devotion to Garrett.

So, you weren’t on the old Cowboys forum ?