My 3 team trade involving Dak

[805BoysInBlue]

A QB can’t be at his best without an oline
Wilson has been killed behind that oline

He also holds onto the ball longer than any qb. His O Line was top 10 in amount of time a qb was clean in the pocket during a pass. The issue isn't the OLine it's him, either he can't diagnose a play fast enough or he's looking for the home run every play. I watch a lot of his games on the west coast and I honestly would prefer to roll with Dak.

 

[fivetwos]

That's Zeke..

Not sure on that.

Penguins seem to have more burst.

 

[fivetwos]

Yea, I know what you're saying. This is wrong, relative to the play around the league. You can nitpick Mahomes and Rodgers this way too, if you want.

Occasionally he drifts away from pressure, but that's basically every quarterback. He's as good as just about any QB in the league at avoiding the rush and keeping his eyes downfield or just staying in the pocket.

I guess. Maybe its me comparing him to QBs of the past.

He seems quite indecisive at times and it get to where he seems to panic at times and ends up putting the ball on the ground.

Agree to disagree, but I just wouldn't call Prescott someone with great pocket awareness.....nor would I say that Wilson doesn't have the same.

 

[mardwin]

I would send a 2nd round + plus Dak in that trade scenario.

 

[mardwin]

Yea, I know what you're saying. This is wrong, relative to the play around the league. You can nitpick Mahomes and Rodgers this way too, if you want.

Occasionally he drifts away from pressure, but that's basically every quarterback. He's as good as just about any QB in the league at avoiding the rush and keeping his eyes downfield or just staying in the pocket.

Now do a Russell Wilson highlight.

 

[Future]

Now do a Russell Wilson highlight.

For what purpose?

 

[RodeoJake]

I want to see a 5 team trade proposal where we tag and trade Dak, and end up trading back for him while ending up with extra draft picks.

 

[texbumthelife]

He can't hold out. He would either have to sign or lose a vested year towards FA. He would essentially be in exactly the same situation next year if he didn't sign and actually cost himself money because the curve on QB salaries are 37 and change on his cap number this year. Next year, that number would not change but the value at the position would likely increase so basically, you are costing yourself money because you are not seeing the advantage in increase and you would still have to play out the year in Dallas at the 37 mil number.

I didn't mean hold out as in "sit out." I meant bide his time. I should have phrased that differently.

What I mean is there is absolutely no reason for him to accept anything other than everything he wants. Including a trade.

 

[aikemirv]

While I appreciate the suggestion, I personally would just do a straight up trade with the Raiders:

Raiders Receive

QB Dak Prescott

Cowboys Receive

QB Derek Carr
S Jonathan Abram
2021 1st round pick (#17 overall)


Dallas has a more affordable QB that is fully capable of leading the offense while also getting a young FS to partner with Wilson to help the secondary. With their #10 overall pick Dallas could grab CB Caleb Farley and with the Raiders #17 pick they could grab CB Jaycee Horn. They will have completely transformed their secondary tio a much improved level with the starting threesome of cornerbacks being Diggs, Farley, and Horn with Abram and Wilson manning the safety positions.

Best trade scenario and most realistic I have seen. Not a big Carr fan but I think he would do well.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I didn't mean "hold out" as in sit out. I meant bide his time.

Well, that could certainly happen but then again, that introduces questions about his health and exactly how good or bad the injury was. That could hurt more then help if he doesn't play lights out and sitting out for 8 games and trying to come in late might not be a good thing for him. Fans don't look at things objectively a lot of times. If the Cowboys extend Dalton, which would make sense if you are afraid Dak is going to sit out, you are opening up yourself to a situation where you are giving Dalton all the snaps in training camp, the preseason and 8 games to show out. If Dalton were to QB this team to say, 5-3, what are the chances that the Cowboys would just ride with Dalton the rest of the way? You are taking a bit of a chance there and you are also clearly sending the message to the rest of the team that you will be QBing for another team next year. All those players who wanted Dak and not Dalton might read the writing on the wall and start playing for Dalton like he's your starter because he effectively would be, regardless of what might happen if Dak did get the starting gig back for a short time. Dak would be taking a bit of a chance there IMO.

 

[My3Sons]

IMO any deal regarding Wilson would need to have a high draft pick going back(Jets/Miami/Carolina) in order for Seattle to rebuild with a top prospect QB while surviving that dead cap hit from Wilsons deal.

Seattle can't eat that dead cap and then take Carr's contract.


I think Wilson is just giving the F.O. a warning message this year and wants to be better protected in 2021.

^^^This.

39 million in dead money would mean they need a rookie QB back. It makes no sense for Seattle unless something crazy unlikely happened.

 

[mardwin]

For what purpose?

for the same purpose you did a Dak video

 

[malbis030347]

I like this trade a LOT. I'm a huge Dak guy. But I'm also an NFL guy and a Cowboys guy, and I believe if Wilson can't win a Super Bowl after getting paid, Dak probably isn't gonna win one here either. (anytime soon at least) So it's better to get Wilson at the tail end of his contract and see what he can do, and then we can decide to sign him again or draft a new QB.

Seahawks are being like the Rams. They're being smart not to fall in love with one guy. Packers fans would rather give up a Super Bowl than to part with Rodgers, and lots of Pittsburgh fans I've spoke to are way too attached to Ben than to give him up, but Seahawks fans might actually be willing to part with Wilson for some draft picks to build up that defense, though I think they're gonna get more than 2 first rounders. They'll probably get one more 1st rounder.

I'm also gonna cheer Dak on in Vegas. It's closer to where I live, and I can be a fan of more than the Cowboys, and I think his best chance to win a Super Bowl is with a rising team like Las Vegas. The Gruden will eventually get it going and I think they're one of those teams set for a monster 2021 year. They could be the Tampa Bay of 2021, and the reason they didn't make the playoffs this year was because Carr hurt down with turnovers and bad play in the last stretch of the year. They'll look to rectify that next year by moving on from him.

 

[malbis030347]

this is nonsense … we are keeping Dak and 'das all folks!

 

[Future]

for the same purpose you did a Dak video

To show that he has strong pocket presence? Why? Of course there are clips of him doing that.

ALl I'm doing is contextualizing.

 

[Fmart322]

You do know Wilson carries one of the most expensive contracts, right?

Plus, why in the hell would we give up both Dak and our 1st round #10th overall pick?

This is the kind of stuff that makes one go nuts!!!

Isn't he making 25 mil a year?

 

[CWR]

I want to see a 5 team trade proposal where we tag and trade Dak, and end up trading back for him while ending up with extra draft picks.

Genius

 

[jaythecowboy]

He can't hold out. He would either have to sign or lose a vested year towards FA. He would essentially be in exactly the same situation next year if he didn't sign and actually cost himself money because the curve on QB salaries are 37 and change on his cap number this year. Next year, that number would not change but the value at the position would likely increase so basically, you are costing yourself money because you are not seeing the advantage in increase and you would still have to play out the year in Dallas at the 37 mil number.

He doesn't have to hold out the season. He just has to delay signing the tag till after the draft. At that point everyone will have made their decisions at qb. Few, if any, will have the cap space to even absorb Dak's franchise tag. And a team won't give much if Dak doesn't want to be there because he can just leave in a year.

 

[john van brocklin]

Well, that could certainly happen but then again, that introduces questions about his health and exactly how good or bad the injury was. That could hurt more then help if he doesn't play lights out and sitting out for 8 games and trying to come in late might not be a good thing for him. Fans don't look at things objectively a lot of times. If the Cowboys extend Dalton, which would make sense if you are afraid Dak is going to sit out, you are opening up yourself to a situation where you are giving Dalton all the snaps in training camp, the preseason and 8 games to show out. If Dalton were to QB this team to say, 5-3, what are the chances that the Cowboys would just ride with Dalton the rest of the way? You are taking a bit of a chance there and you are also clearly sending the message to the rest of the team that you will be QBing for another team next year. All those players who wanted Dak and not Dalton might read the writing on the wall and start playing for Dalton like he's your starter because he effectively would be, regardless of what might happen if Dak did get the starting gig back for a short time. Dak would be taking a bit of a chance there IMO.

We can't afford to resign Dak and Dalton.
Andy has earned a good payday.

 

[texbumthelife]

Well, that could certainly happen but then again, that introduces questions about his health and exactly how good or bad the injury was. That could hurt more then help if he doesn't play lights out and sitting out for 8 games and trying to come in late might not be a good thing for him. Fans don't look at things objectively a lot of times. If the Cowboys extend Dalton, which would make sense if you are afraid Dak is going to sit out, you are opening up yourself to a situation where you are giving Dalton all the snaps in training camp, the preseason and 8 games to show out. If Dalton were to QB this team to say, 5-3, what are the chances that the Cowboys would just ride with Dalton the rest of the way? You are taking a bit of a chance there and you are also clearly sending the message to the rest of the team that you will be QBing for another team next year. All those players who wanted Dak and not Dalton might read the writing on the wall and start playing for Dalton like he's your starter because he effectively would be, regardless of what might happen if Dak did get the starting gig back for a short time. Dak would be taking a bit of a chance there IMO.

You're misunderstanding again. He's going to play from day one. But he's not going to accept anything other than the franchise, or the exact contract he wants. There is absolutely no reason for him to. The team has zero leverage. Dak is taking absolutely no chances, even if he did sit out. It's not going to hurt his value one bit to other teams. If he's sitting out then he clearly doesn't want to be with the Cowboys. So, again, not hurting him. Dak is a known commodity. He is going to get paid. That's not a question. The only question is who is going to pay him.