CeeDee Lamb VS Jerry Jeudy 2.0

[texbumthelife]

If you believe better stats automatically equal better player than Jefferson wins that one for last season.
The question I ask is what would Jeffersons stats been if the Cowboys drafted him and how would Lambs stats have been if the Vikings drafted him? Lamb was the 3rd option on a team with several QB's. Jefferson was te 1st or 2nd option most of the year.

Great season for Jefferson.

If we could draft over and had the choice I am still going CD over Jefferson.

I believe I saw them both on the field and Jefferson out played Lamb. It was close, but Jefferson was the better player on tape, too.

I dont do "what ifs" about the past. It's conjecture and fluff. They went where they went.

Lamb could still be the better pro long term.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Lamb was the best receiver in that draft and the fact Ruggs and Juedy went before him is laughable but a blessing to Dallas. Thank goodness that teams are terrible in the draft

I don't know about laughable. To me it was 3 1st tier prospects last year and it was those 3. I thought Jefferson was just a notch behind them. Might end up being the best that's crazy......

Ruggs is not the receiver Judy and Lamb were but that 4.2-4.3 speed got him going first. I really thought Jeudy and Lamb would go first and I thought there was a slight chance Ruggs fell to us.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

If you believe better stats automatically equal better player than Jefferson wins that one for last season.
The question I ask is what would Jeffersons stats been if the Cowboys drafted him and how would Lambs stats have been if the Vikings drafted him? Lamb was the 3rd option on a team with several QB's. Jefferson was te 1st or 2nd option most of the year.

Great season for Jefferson.

If we could draft over and had the choice I am still going CD over Jefferson.

I will say last season Jefferson looked like the best receive rent act class. I love Lamb and I still draft him but we have to be honest about what our eyes showed us. Lamb had a solid but uneven rookie campaign. He had a few drops that just shouldn't be drops. Jefferson made far more plays.

 

[Kingofholland]

He performed like the second-best receiver in the draft. Jefferson was so far ahead of everyone else it wasn't funny.

Of course, we have no idea how all their careers would progress. But the best rookie receiving season was Jefferson's, and there's no arguing that.

Agreed

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

Not coming out of college he didn't. Lamb was best receiver going into the draft.

As far as their rookie year in the league rankings change and not taking anything away from Jefferson but with Dak, Lamb was better

Rock-solid logic there, lulz

 

[Irvin88_4life]

Lol. Stop.

Stop what? Lamb was best receiver coming into the draft.

If its Lamb was better with Dak than Jefferson.....

Lamb had double the TDs with Dak than Jefferson the first 5 games and even though Jefferson had 1 game with 175 yards both their yards were close with being over 300.

Lamb lowest receiving game with Dak was 59 yards.

Jefferson had games of 26, 44 and 23 yards.


I get you Dak haters don't like him but Lamb was better than Jefferson with Dak in their first 5 games and that's a fact.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

If you believe better stats automatically equal better player than Jefferson wins that one for last season.
The question I ask is what would Jeffersons stats been if the Cowboys drafted him and how would Lambs stats have been if the Vikings drafted him? Lamb was the 3rd option on a team with several QB's. Jefferson was te 1st or 2nd option most of the year.

Great season for Jefferson.

If we could draft over and had the choice I am still going CD over Jefferson.

Lamb played almost exclusively in the slot which is infinitely easier than playing on the outside.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

Rock-solid logic there, lulz

Who had better stats the first 5 games? Jefferson or Lamb?

 

[Redline360]

Lamb is going to be a beast but he had some crucial / killer drops that should have been caught no excuses.

Glad we drafted him

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

Who had better stats the first 5 games? Jefferson or Lamb?

Who had better stats at the end of the year?

 

[superonyx]

Lamb played almost exclusively in the slot which is infinitely easier than playing on the outside.

But also as a 3rd option and a slot WR you get less targets and less YPC.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

But also as a 3rd option and a slot WR you get less targets and less YPC.

Says what?

Lamb had more targets than Gallup last year.

And YPC is dependent on the types of routes you’re being asked to run. Lamb did not play the slot the way the Cowboys had Beasley playing it.

 

[superonyx]

Says what?

Lamb had more targets than Gallup last year.

And YPC is dependent on the types of routes you’re being asked to run. Lamb did not play the slot the way the Cowboys had Beasley playing it.

Lamb also did not play the slot the way a WR plays outside.
Like it or not the middle of the field is harder to get big plays than the outside.
Lamb may have more targets than Gallup but Jefferson had more targets than either one.

You can try to debate something that isnt really even debatable if you choose. Doing so just makes you look like you don't understand this sport.
Slot receivers have less YPC than outside WR's. Jefferson had superior offensive play around him last season and was the first option in a large amount of games.
He produced no doubt.

 

[MarcusRock]

Stop what? Lamb was best receiver coming into the draft.

If its Lamb was better with Dak than Jefferson.....

Lamb had double the TDs with Dak than Jefferson the first 5 games and even though Jefferson had 1 game with 175 yards both their yards were close with being over 300.

Lamb lowest receiving game with Dak was 59 yards.

Jefferson had games of 26, 44 and 23 yards.


I get you Dak haters don't like him but Lamb was better than Jefferson with Dak in their first 5 games and that's a fact.

Dak hater? Lol.

Since you like stats, know that Jefferson had a 19.52 ypc average those first 5 games. Lamb WITH Dak? 14.93. Jefferson finished with a 3ypc average higher than Lamb overall but again was outpacing Lamb already WITH Dak playing. I don't care what pace you think Lamb was with Dak, he was not going to wind up with 1,400 yards like Jefferson did. If you want to talk about futility games, Jefferson never got shut out of a game like Lamb did. Look, I like Lamb and hope he'll be great but he's behind Jefferson's curve at this point, Dak or no Dak. And that's okay by me. You apparently need to have those you support be the absolute best, even if you have to bend reality to make it true in your head.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

Who had better stats at the end of the year?

Hence the reason I said Lamb was better than Jefferson when he had Dak. Without Dak, Jefferson clearly had the better year.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

Lamb also did not play the slot the way a WR plays outside.
Like it or not the middle of the field is harder to get big plays than the outside.
Lamb may have more targets than Gallup but Jefferson had more targets than either one.

You can try to debate something that isnt really even debatable if you choose. Doing so just makes you look like you don't understand this sport.
Slot receivers have less YPC than outside WR's. Jefferson had superior offensive play around him last season and was the first option in a large amount of games.
He produced no doubt.

My gosh you’re useless. This is just continuation of your “Zeke’s the best” despite the evidence.

Saying “slots get less targets and YPC than outside receivers” is bunk. How did Wes Walker and Julian Edelman excel in their roles?

“Lamb did not play the slot the way a WR plays outside.”

Oh, how profound!

Of course, brainiac.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

Hence the reason I said Lamb was better than Jefferson when he had Dak. Without Dak, Jefferson clearly had the better year.

So what are we projecting here? Should we just go ahead and count an extra 2,000 yards and 20 TDs for Lamb playing 11 extra games with Dak?

 

[Irvin88_4life]

Dak hater? Lol.

Since you like stats, know that Jefferson had a 19.52 ypc average those first 5 games. Lamb WITH Dak? 14.93. Jefferson finished with a 3ypc average higher than Lamb overall but again was outpacing Lamb already WITH Dak playing. I don't care what pace you think Lamb was with Dak, he was not going to wind up with 1,400 yards like Jefferson did. If you want to talk about futility games, Jefferson never got shut out of a game like Lamb did. Look, I like Lamb and hope he'll be great but he's behind Jefferson's curve at this point, Dak or no Dak. And that's okay by me. You apparently need to have those you support be the absolute best, even if you have to bend reality to make it true in your head.

Lamb wasn't shut out with Dak. I never says Jefferson wasn't better for the year, I said Lamb was better when he had Dak. You used yards per catch to show Jefferson better than Lamb with Dak but yet Lamb scored more TDs than Jefferson in that 5 game stretch and Lambs worst yardage with Dak is better than Jeffersons 3 games ot of the 5.

Jefferson had that 175 yard game makes things seem a little better in that 5 game stretch but Lamb was better in 4 of the 5 games.

 

[MarcusRock]

Lamb wasn't shut out with Dak. I never says Jefferson wasn't better for the year, I said Lamb was better when he had Dak. You used yards per catch to show Jefferson better than Lamb with Dak but yet Lamb scored more TDs than Jefferson in that 5 game stretch and Lambs worst yardage with Dak is better than Jeffersons 3 games ot of the 5.

Jefferson had that 175 yard game makes things seem a little better in that 5 game stretch but Lamb was better in 4 of the 5 games.

Not better in yards per catch. And that held up all year, even when catching more balls.

 

[superonyx]

My gosh you’re useless. This is just continuation of your “Zeke’s the best” despite the evidence.

Saying “slots get less targets and YPC than outside receivers” is bunk. How did Wes Walker and Julian Edelman excel in their roles?

“Lamb did not play the slot the way a WR plays outside.”

Oh, how profound!

Of course, brainiac.

Like I said in the other thread go ahead and show me how many of the top WR's last season were slot receivers. Show me how smart you are dullard.
Of course you won't because the evidence doesn't support your brainless attempt. Instead you will redirect and try another failed angle.

You want to win some internet debate so you won't give up. The reality is you either:
1. Have no clue how the sport you are arguing about works
2. You know and you are that lonely guy who likes to occupy his time on the internet arguing.

Imagine being the guy who comes tries to find people who like and support who they have or what they have and then proceed to try to argue with them why they are wrong for liking what they have.

I have a neighbor who just bought a new car. He loves it. He's washed it every other day. He tells me and one of my other neighbors how fast it gets to 60. He is just thrilled with his new car. I could be like you are try to tell him he is wrong and I know of another car that is not only faster but it's more reliable and cost less........ You are the A hole who would do that.