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100% agree!
Parsins better be the 2nd coming of Lawrence Taylor or this organization just made a catastrophic mistake! I placed bets on draft night with fellow fans-saying not drafting Slater was a huge mistake because I told them our OT's would not stay healthy this season... once again.... I sure as heck hope I am wrong!!!

How is Slater doing? I haven’t heard anything on him. No way I am passing on Parsons for Slater.
 

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How is Slater doing? I haven’t heard anything on him. No way I am passing on Parsons for Slater.

from what I have heard is that he is destroying everyone in camp. has yet to be beat or something like that. I really wanted him or Sewell with our pick but I am happy with Parson
 

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I had a pinched nerve in the neck a few years back . My neck was stiff but the real pain was in my forearm. The nerve that was pinched caused this intense ache in my forearm that was so uncomfortable at times I felt like I was going to puke. There was no position I could put my arm to make the pain less intense. I took some ibuprofen and naproxen to relieve the inflammation but that had minimal effect. But what I remember was two of my fingers on my left hand were useless and my grip was so weak I could not pick up a glass or even a plastic cup of water with my left hand.

I am guessing the problem for Collins would be any weakness in whichever arm is effected by the nerve. But depending on which disk is inflamed it could also effect a leg.

But after 2 weeks of physical therapy which included traction, I felt 100% again.
 

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How is Slater doing? I haven’t heard anything on him. No way I am passing on Parsons for Slater.
Parsons is a hall of fame all world talent if he stays healthy. Slater is a good tackle, maybe La'el level eventually but he'll never be Tyron Smith great.
 

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U know better Ranching...thats some danged hobby lol..He's been 'tinkering:" with this thing 4 20 years and winning. That is hard work.
he should teach Randy Gregory how to do it and get away with it so the league doesn't tag him again for it.
 

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As one who has experienced pinch nerves in the neck on many an occasion, I can attest that these things come and go almost on their own schedule. As long as he doesn't have any disc damage I think it's minor and not to worry.

thanks Ronnie----i needed some authentic encouragment
 

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I hear ya. It is best to start getting Martin plenty of RT snaps now. As my lengthy post history on this subject will support, the existing tackle depth on this roster will eventually get Prescott hurt.

It's only my opinion, but I feel pretty strong about it. Lol

75boyz---- i was a 17 year old in that playoff game against Vikes Hail Mary.....and i am 100% total agreement if Collins cant go....Martin needs no practice time to be one thousand percent better than Steele at RT.....to be honest McCarthey is on such a short leash with me....dont like him....after the fiasco with allowing his D coordinator last year attempt to change whole defense on Zoom...and some of his 4th down calls lost us games......put McGovern RG and Martin RT....and lets move on....hope Collins stinger is ueventful and he is close to 100% next week from today....i am already anxious...dang where did i put the valium?
 

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Bro,
You gotta go with your suggestion of Martin at RT and McGovern at RG.

Bowles is gonna bring extreme talent off that side that Steele can not handle.

Imo, IF Collins doesnt play, this is the only alternative.

jmo though, everybody's got one. Lol

75boyz---again..yep total agreement
 

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I had a pinched nerve in the neck a few years back . My neck was stiff but the real pain was in my forearm. The nerve that was pinched caused this intense ache in my forearm that was so uncomfortable at times I felt like I was going to puke. There was no position I could put my arm to make the pain less intense. I took some ibuprofen and naproxen to relieve the inflammation but that had minimal effect. But what I remember was two of my fingers on my left hand were useless and my grip was so weak I could not pick up a glass or even a plastic cup of water with my left hand.

I am guessing the problem for Collins would be any weakness in whichever arm is effected by the nerve. But depending on which disk is inflamed it could also effect a leg.

But after 2 weeks of physical therapy which included traction, I felt 100% again.
My left arm goes numb at times starts in the thumb and spreads out to the hand then arm. Happens almost every time I drive over 30-40 miles Gabapentin helps I take 1 as soon as the thumb starts going numb.
 
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nothing like starting the NFL season with issues at Oline. I mean come on Collins. We paid you big money and so far the ROT is looking bad.
He didn't play at all last year and might not play the first game this year.

I have a feeling at some point this season we will be without both starting tackles again. Terrible.

we have to get new blood at both tackle spots....dang
 

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I remember using horse liniment for some aches and pains
Once again, camp cupcake at its best. Was I the only one who thought Collin's behavior was just a little peculiar last year. I never thought much of the guy even before last year. I guess we'll find out. Something rubs me the wrong way about this guy. Hope I'm wrong
 

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I have no doubt Martin can play RT at a high level without cross-training, but coaches seem to generally be against shifting offensive linemen around because of injury. Part of that is simply continuity. With a young center, are we better off with Martin playing next to him instead of McGovern? Also, we run behind Martin at guard a lot, so do we want to lessen our interior running prowess by putting Martin at tackle? Things like that are reasons, I believe, that Nsekhe will get first crack at it.

I'll trust the Rimington Award winner to know the position after playing last year and a full offseason. And he has Williams right next to him, who is the guy with the most continuity under Philbin.

If the price of Martin holding Biadasz'z hand is putting Nsheke out on the edge with his zero continuity, I'll trust in Biadasz going just holding Williams' hand.
 

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Once again, camp cupcake at its best. Was I the only one who thought Collin's behavior was just a little peculiar last year. I never thought much of the guy even before last year. I guess we'll find out. Something rubs me the wrong way about this guy. Hope I'm wrong
You’re big time wrong and haven’t been watching him play. Obviously.
 

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I'll trust the Rimington Award winner to know the position after playing last year and a full offseason. And he has Williams right next to him, who is the guy with the most continuity under Philbin.

If the price of Martin holding Biadasz'z hand is putting Nsheke out on the edge with his zero continuity, I'll trust in Biadasz going just holding Williams' hand.

Not sure why some of you are so down on Nsekhe. Last year, he graded out 80.5 (PFF) playing 52 snaps for Buffalo.

Found this from March 2019: Ty Nsekhe earned five starts this past season, earning 70.0-plus pass-blocking grades in three of them. He has proven himself to be a solid option at guard or tackle. After allowing five sacks and 19 pressures on 184 pass-blocking snaps in 2017, Nsekhe stepped up and surrendered just one sack and 11 pressures on 249 pass-blocking snaps in 2018.

And this from January 2020:
Overall, Dawkins was the Bills’ best offensive lineman via PFF this season, clocking in at a 73.3 overall mark. That earned him the mark of being their 24 best offensive tackle in the NFL. Aside from Dawkins, no one on Buffalo’s line fell in PFF’s “good” category.

Mitch Morse and John Feliciano, earning grades of 65.9 and 64.1, respectively, were considered “average” by PFF’s grading landscape.

Quinton Spain and Cody Ford landed at 55.8 and 52.4, respectively, very much below average.

The other missing Buffalo lineman is Ty Nsekhe, who landed with a solid grade of 67.3.

For comparison's sake, Collins in 2019 graded out at 86.4. He was arguably our best lineman that year and graded as the fourth-best overall offensive tackle.

Now, I know that PFF rankings have to be taken with a grain of salt, but if they are what we have to go by, Nsekhe doesn't look too bad based on his most recent ranking compared to Collins' best year. I'm certainly not going to worry about him stepping in for Collins until he shows that he can't do it.
 

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Not sure why some of you are so down on Nsekhe. Last year, he graded out 80.5 (PFF) playing 52 snaps for Buffalo.

Found this from March 2019: Ty Nsekhe earned five starts this past season, earning 70.0-plus pass-blocking grades in three of them. He has proven himself to be a solid option at guard or tackle. After allowing five sacks and 19 pressures on 184 pass-blocking snaps in 2017, Nsekhe stepped up and surrendered just one sack and 11 pressures on 249 pass-blocking snaps in 2018.

And this from January 2020:
Overall, Dawkins was the Bills’ best offensive lineman via PFF this season, clocking in at a 73.3 overall mark. That earned him the mark of being their 24 best offensive tackle in the NFL. Aside from Dawkins, no one on Buffalo’s line fell in PFF’s “good” category.

Mitch Morse and John Feliciano, earning grades of 65.9 and 64.1, respectively, were considered “average” by PFF’s grading landscape.

Quinton Spain and Cody Ford landed at 55.8 and 52.4, respectively, very much below average.

The other missing Buffalo lineman is Ty Nsekhe, who landed with a solid grade of 67.3.

For comparison's sake, Collins in 2019 graded out at 86.4. He was arguably our best lineman that year and graded as the fourth-best overall offensive tackle.

Now, I know that PFF rankings have to be taken with a grain of salt, but if they are what we have to go by, Nsekhe doesn't look too bad based on his most recent ranking compared to Collins' best year. I'm certainly not going to worry about him stepping in for Collins until he shows that he can't do it.

+1 for facts.
+1 for listing the snap count for last year instead of leaving it out.
The sample size in 2020 was too small to believe the jump to 80+ would be real over a season, but 2018-2019 were both respectable, and significantly better than Steele. IAnd certainly, the high score in 2020 is at least evidence that he didn't fall off a cliff last year.

I'm encouraged by his recent history, if not the noise about him while he's been here.

Maybe Nsekhe at RT is the better option than moving Martin. I was more thinking that Steele was a worse option than Martin.

EDIT: Just saw another fact:
But he graded out last season with a respectable 80.3 (89.9 run blocking; 62.4 pass blocking).​

https://dallasexpress.com/cracks-appearing-in-cowboys-offensive-line/

Do you know if the wide swing between run and pass blocking has been a consistent part of his career?

The wide swing is a point in his favor. Could be a great guy to close out a game when you're winning, but a poor guy to try to make a late comeback with. Maybe our new blocking "TE" in short yardage too. We can work with that.
 
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