The list of complaints against Dak is shrinking

Blackspider214

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"He doesn't have enough TDs.." .. He's 2nd or 3rd in the league right now..
"He struggles in the red zone.." .. Cowboys are 11 for their last 13 trips in the red zone.
"He can't beat winning teams.." Chargers and Panthers both have winning records..

I think we're going to have to resurrect the old "he doesn't pass for big yards...?"

Bro, he does not score a TD every single time we possess the ball. He sucks!!!!

/Dakhaters
 

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his QBR in 4:00 PM games, west of misssippi, played on grass against AFC teams is 40.3....that has to improve. also, his QBR between 5:05 of 2nd quarter to 4:13 of 3rd quarter in 1 PM games played north of Mississippi against NFC teams in October and November is only 42.5, that has to improve

wins don't matter any more.....it doesn't fit my narrative....if he doesn't improve those two stats he sucks.

Dak is winless in games Dallas does not score more points than their opponent.....

Stats from Dak haters...
 

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"He doesn't have enough TDs.." .. He's 2nd or 3rd in the league right now..
"He struggles in the red zone.." .. Cowboys are 11 for their last 13 trips in the red zone.
"He can't beat winning teams.." Chargers and Panthers both have winning records..

I think we're going to have to resurrect the old "he doesn't pass for big yards...?"

I used to have a lot of complaints about Dak. Legitimate ones. The only one left last year was strangely poor accuracy behind the LOS and very short. I don't remember that being a problem this year.

Dak just keeps improving himself.
 

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LMAO.. so now we are supposed to sit quietly on our hands until the playoffs? You know kinda like the way all the Dak haters wait until the end of the season to post their crap right? Man GTFOH! I am going to enjoy all three.. the wins right now.. the run in the playoffs and yes.. laughing at the trolls...
They are playing well and they will win their division and maybe a playoff game. If you want to drink the kool-aid enjoy. I have seen this game before. I will wait see.
 

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I heard when he orders an egg McMuffin at McDonald’s he orders it no cheese! Unacceptable ! ( Dak haters in the future ).
 

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So all those playoff wins and Super Bowls that Herbert has won are proof that he's better than Dak. Oh yeah he also beat Dak head to head.. Herbert is completing a higher percentage.. has a higher passer rating, has more TDs and fewer interceptions in your Bizarro universe. You are certainly welcome to construct whatever alternate reality that makes you happy... however here on this plane of existence Dak has the advantage in all those categories.. He is literally better than Herbert in any category you can examine.. But in your mind Herbert is better. I fully understand.

I did some further research and the only 4 times that Dak has won a game without a running game was against the worst team in the league in the last few years. They are the Lions, Falcons, Eagles, and Giants.

You think Dak would score 33 touchdowns in his rookie season while having the worst O-line in the league like Herbert? Dak struggle with a bad O-line and no running game. Hell Jared Goff beat the Chiefs (Greatest MNF game of all time), Saints (NFCCG), and the Vikings (TNF best perfect passer rating game in history) without a running game.

Sorry not sorry, Dak can't win games without a running game. The Cowboys are the most complete team in the NFL this year so of course Dak is going to look good. Stafford, Herbert, Mahomes, Rodgers, Murray and others don't need a run game to win games.

Your stats don't matter because Herbert is a 2nd year player in a brand new system with a new headcoach and OC. Even the Chargers defense don't have an identity until their 4th game into the season. See what I mean when you take stats without context? We are a contender with Dak as QB but if we had Herbert, we are SB favorite, and that is the differences. How confident are you if something were to happen to our running game? Dak has never shown the ability to win games with a running game except against the worst team in the league. Yet somehow he better than every other QB in the league? What planet are you living on, it one thing to be a fan of the team, its another to be realistic about the situation.

You know Jared Goff would still look really good if Gurley didn't get injure.
 

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I’ve never heard anyone reference Amari Cooper as some athletic freak.

Cooper is fast for his size and faster than Allen. In fact most receivers in the league is faster than Allen.
 

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I did some further research and the only 4 times that Dak has won a game without a running game was against the worst team in the league in the last few years. They are the Lions, Falcons, Eagles, and Giants.

You think Dak would score 33 touchdowns in his rookie season while having the worst O-line in the league like Herbert? Dak struggle with a bad O-line and no running game. Hell Jared Goff beat the Chiefs (Greatest MNF game of all time), Saints (NFCCG), and the Vikings (TNF best perfect passer rating game in history) without a running game.

Sorry not sorry, Dak can't win games without a running game. The Cowboys are the most complete team in the NFL this year so of course Dak is going to look good. Stafford, Herbert, Mahomes, Rodgers, Murray and others don't need a run game to win games.

Your stats don't matter because Herbert is a 2nd year player in a brand new system with a new headcoach and OC. Even the Chargers defense don't have an identity until their 4th game into the season. See what I mean when you take stats without context? We are a contender with Dak as QB but if we had Herbert, we are SB favorite, and that is the differences. How confident are you if something were to happen to our running game? Dak has never shown the ability to win games with a running game except against the worst team in the league. Yet somehow he better than every other QB in the league? What planet are you living on, it one thing to be a fan of the team, its another to be realistic about the situation.

You know Jared Goff would still look really good if Gurley didn't get injure.

Stop. Just stop.
 

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I know...I get it.

But you are talking about a WHOLE YEAR! Not 4 games. You cherry picked a specific span to prove your point. Was their a strect brady DIDn'T thorw 7 ints?


Dak only had 4 games....he did not improve in any way. He had great yards...just like before. Great accuracy. Just like before. Great complete percentage just like before.

So tell me...how did he improve in 2020?

The turnovers...are NOT an improvement in any way. Just like zeke's were not any sort of improvement at all. A very bad stretch for the two.

Why can't we admit that? What's so wrong with being a little bit honest? We can't handle it when it comes to dak? Not even his fault and we still can;t say it. What the....
Still downplaying Dak’s play. Man up and admit you’ve been wrong this whole time if you got it in you.
 

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Literally every sport media is comparing Herbert to Mahomes. I have yet to see Dak be compare to Mahomes. Even Nick Wright who an avid Chief fans even admit that Herbert is a threat in the AFC West.

Also watch this in regard to Dak and the MVP conversation.


You get your takes from the talking heads? :lmao:
 

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Still downplaying Dak’s play. Man up and admit you’ve been wrong this whole time if you got it in you.
I'm not down playing nor am I wrong. You can lie to yourself...easily it seems. I am not a liar....I speak the truth and facts.

This team needs to carry out the mission all the way to the end. Fully and completely capable. Now...it's time to see it through.

Carry on with your nonsense. Doesn't bother me one bit. I've been a fan WAY longer than you...and I won't let the likes of a psycho tell me what kind of fan or how good of a fan I am....I know.
 

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I know...I get it.

But you are talking about a WHOLE YEAR! Not 4 games. You cherry picked a specific span to prove your point. Was their a strect brady DIDn'T thorw 7 ints?


Dak only had 4 games....he did not improve in any way. He had great yards...just like before. Great accuracy. Just like before. Great complete percentage just like before.

So tell me...how did he improve in 2020?

The turnovers...are NOT an improvement in any way. Just like zeke's were not any sort of improvement at all. A very bad stretch for the two.

Why can't we admit that? What's so wrong with being a little bit honest? We can't handle it when it comes to dak? Not even his fault and we still can;t say it. What the....
I didnt cherry pick I selected a span of games that corresponded with the same amount of games as Dak had last year. Chances are he wouldnt have maintained that pace of TOs over the course of the season had he not gotten injured... Just like he wouldn't have continued to average nearly 400 yds a game. That doesn't mean he did not improve in other areas. His ability to read the defense and calling correct audibles was an inprovement. I think his accuracy and confidence to make the tight throws improved. His command of the offense overall improved. His release was quicker.


Also, in case it wasn't clear, I selected only consecutive game span... Not picking 4 games throughout the seadon
 

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I didnt cherry pick I selected a span of games that corresponded with the same amount of games as Dak had last year. Chances are he wouldnt have maintained that pace of TOs over the course of the season had he not gotten injured... Just like he wouldn't have continued to average nearly 400 yds a game. That doesn't mean he did not improve in other areas. His ability to read the defense and calling correct audibles was an inprovement. I think his accuracy and confidence to make the tight throws improved. His command of the offense overall improved. His release was quicker.


You were able to select a PART of the year for them.....

But I think you may have missed my point. Dak DID regress in the turnover department last year. And I don;t even really care personally. Just stating the facts. THAT part of his game was not any kind of improvement.


but anyway...I get your point. I also think Dak would have cleaned up his miscues just like Zeke did. We 100% agree on everything else! Big improvement this year on EVERYthing!
 

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I used to have a lot of complaints about Dak. Legitimate ones. The only one left last year was strangely poor accuracy behind the LOS and very short. I don't remember that being a problem this year.

Dak just keeps improving himself.
I hate that people bust balls about this assessment.

Dak has done a tremendous job improving himself...most especially this off season along with his rehab.

You are spot on! Dak has had some glaring issues....whittled down to just a few minor ones (that all QB's have) that can still be cleared up.
 

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Not counting this year as Dak has improve his accuracy is in the past he would throw it high or behind their back often. Sure it still within reach but it wasn't perfect ball placement. Lamp and Cooper can catch those throw, other receivers less physically gifted like Kupp or Allen would not be able to catch those balls that were thrown.

They can catch those balls because the defense is focusing on Lamb and Cooper.
so how often did he throw it high behind their back? did he always do that? what percentage was off target? or is this another eye test....how does it compare to other QBs and their accuracy?

or are you just making this up as you go. unless you can provide proof that he was inaccurate you have nothing but conjecture.....
 

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My only problem with that is the 7 turnovers in 4 games last year.....some critical. That is NOT "elite" and worse than the year before. Not an improvement AT ALL!

But...the whole dam 2020 season has been erased from my books.....daks good AND bad...erased. Why? peopel on one side don't want to consider the good, people on the other don't want to consider the bad. I choose to blow it all up and start over.

Dak....how many turnovers this year? THAT is not just "incremental" improvement. VAST!

I kind hate that we get bogged down on semantics. Name-calling,. Accusations. Assumptions. All for the sake of agendas, chest thumping and told-ya-so's.

Team looks great.....why are we fighting? Aren;t we all fans? Where are the high fives? Especially from the guys that look for fights and antagonization. Why? Give a peace offering and high five for godsakes.
yes, I hate the fumbles and that's an issue that has to improve. however, remember that 2 Ints came at the very end of games in desparation throws to the endzone....and no I am not excusing turnovers.
 

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I used to have a lot of complaints about Dak. Legitimate ones. The only one left last year was strangely poor accuracy behind the LOS and very short. I don't remember that being a problem this year.

Dak just keeps improving himself.
Strangely enough, that seems to be my biggest problem with Dak this year. There have been 3 pass plays already near the goal line that if thrown better would have allowed the receiver to turn and get the ball across for the score. 2 of the passes were to Zeke (1 he had to jump up and get both feet in bounds just to catch the ball, and the other a TD was overturned because he was down before ball crossed line) and the 3rd was on the 2-point conversion that got overturned.
 
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