Most likely losing Moore next year

[Flamma]

Romo said it a couple times yesterday during the broadcast that there’s no way Moore doesn’t become a HC next year.

So, most of my close Cowboy friends here locally are not happy with McCarthy despite the success we’re having . We all are excited about Moore and agree with Romo that he will be highly sought after next year.

Hopefully we will name Moore our HC next year before someone else does.

Just because he's a good OC doesn't mean he'd be a good head coach. Keep in mind the dude has some pretty good weapons to work with. If he's that valuable just pay him to stay. It doesn't go against the cap.

 

[Cmac]

Kellen should wait on the Texans job. He'd make a great HC immediately.

 

[Mobinvans]

Coaches get way to much credit for players balling out

Dak, Cooper, Ceedee, Zeke and others are balking out

/the end

 

[CouchCoach]

I’m saying we should have a pretty good idea who influenced Moore returning or staying.

The fact we can’t 100% confirm doesn’t stop us from speculating based on the info we have.

It was widely known , and I’ll provide a link if needed ( I did when these arguments initially emerged) that Jethro’s hiring decision hinged on a candidate who wanted or would agree on Moore as OC.

Not sure why some fans are intent on giving credit to Moore being here more about Mm than JJ.

They released Moore and he had already been offered the job at UWA so that's hogwash that the HC had to accept Moore. If what you are saying is fact, they wouldn't have let him walk and seek employment elsewhere. Do you think he would have stiffed his friend and HC at UWA after accepting the job?

Do I think McC's spoken desire to bring Moore back helped him in that interview? Yes but one thing Booger knew going in is that McC had been his own OC most of his coaching career and was a QB guy. So as to whether Moore was a condition of the job is nothing more than speculation. And your speculation concerning Booger usually leans to the evil side.

 

[DasTex]

This is not going to be popular, but I think we're in more danger of losing Quinn than Moore. As Moose said in his show last week, teams are looking for leaders of men, not just the new hotshot offensive playcaller. Moore will get his chance, but I think Dan Quinn is ready sooner. And another unpopular opinion, if we were to lose Big Mike, I'd rather promote Dan Quinn than Kellen Moore to HC. He has brought the toughness to this team that wasn't here during Kellen's runs.

I don't know - Quinn is more of a known commodity for head coaching - but teams these days always seem to be looking for the next McVay. I'd guess Moore is going to be more in demand.

 

[DasTex]

I do not see Booger firing McC and promoting Moore.

There is a lot of unknown about what Moore wants. Does he want to HC in the NFL or would he prefer to return to the Northwest and coach a Pac 12 team?

We know of one opening already and there are usually a minimum of 5 with owners' patience at an all time low.

I don't think he'd take the Raiders gig because Mark Davis is going to counter Gruden with hiring the first black lesbian head coach.

You just made me spit my drink out on that one

 

[nobody]

I don't want to lose Moore, but I don't want another HC in training and wind up with Garrett 2.0

 

[Cowboys22]

I hope JJ pays Moore like HC with the understanding that he is HC in waiting...I still think he has some growth before becoming a head coach...it takes more than being a innovative OC.

I also think Moore is young...and has a great opportunity to continue to grow into Hposition which will make him more successful down the road.

that’s sounds good in theory but it requires MM to just go along with Jerry having his replacement sitting there. That creates a disaster waiting to happen that can cause a team to implode. The move to make if you don’t want to lose Moore like you lost Sean Payton is to just fire MM and hire him. If you aren’t willing to do that, then say goodbye to the young coach.

 

[Fla Cowpoke]

This is not going to be popular, but I think we're in more danger of losing Quinn than Moore. As Moose said in his show last week, teams are looking for leaders of men, not just the new hotshot offensive playcaller. Moore will get his chance, but I think Dan Quinn is ready sooner. And another unpopular opinion, if we were to lose Big Mike, I'd rather promote Dan Quinn than Kellen Moore to HC. He has brought the toughness to this team that wasn't here during Kellen's runs.

Just as many young offensive coaches out there as defensive.

 

[Diehardblues]

They released Moore and he had already been offered the job at UWA so that's hogwash that the HC had to accept Moore. If what you are saying is fact, they wouldn't have let him walk and seek employment elsewhere. Do you think he would have stiffed his friend and HC at UWA after accepting the job?

Do I think McC's spoken desire to bring Moore back helped him in that interview? Yes but one thing Booger knew going in is that McC had been his own OC most of his coaching career and was a QB guy. So as to whether Moore was a condition of the job is nothing more than speculation. And your speculation concerning Booger usually leans to the evil side.

My speculation to Jethro is usually spot on. His intentions are usually to the self centered side which generally would have been considered an evil to Cowboys football this era.

Surely you’re not going to fall prey like some have in attempting to downplay my opinions by discrediting my personal attacks on our owner which we are usually fairly aligned on.

I thought your take on how that overnight rendezvous went down at Jethro’s bungalow with Mikey was mostly spot on. And most agree that retaining Moore definitely made the decision easier for Jethro. There were several reports that it was unofficially a preferred condition of employment.

The fact Mikey approved doesn’t soften the blow. And the fact he was willing to keep the Garrett offense in place that Prescott was familiar with that Mikey would need to learn. Quite an admission from a HC who 12 of 13 years was also calling the plays in Green Bay and running the offense. But believe what you will.

 

[waving monkey]

not sure if that's setting him up to fail. it takes a few years of experience to become a good HC in NFL. no rookie HC has ever made a serious run in the playoffs. so are we ready to let Moore learn on the job......and waste a couple of years of team potential.....

I can see these threads are going to become a thing. Jerry Jones has just got badly stung trying to OJT a young gun he liked.It wont happen again

 

[FVSTONE]

Romo said it a couple times yesterday during the broadcast that there’s no way Moore doesn’t become a HC next year.

So, most of my close Cowboy friends here locally are not happy with McCarthy despite the success we’re having . We all are excited about Moore and agree with Romo that he will be highly sought after next year.

Hopefully we will name Moore our HC next year before someone else does.

Remember, Moore could of bolted to college ranks and turned that down because JJ was probably in his ear about how he gave him a shot as the OC when he probably would have had to go back to the college ranks to start his career as a OC. After this year Moore may have it in his head that he's filled his obligation to JJ and may seek offers from other clubs. With that said, I do believe that MM is a lame duck coach and Moore will be announced as the NEW HC shortly after the Cowboy's season ends. Here's hoping that JJ can entice Quinn to return as the DC since his stock is also raising too..........................

 

[glimmerman]

Agreed. His mistakes and bad decisions at bad times will cost us eventually. Dak and others that can call time outs needs to keep a eye on the clock. May cause some problems the next day but during the game it means win or loss. Or running another play like the chargers game could have made it a closer FG or got a TD. But could have been a fumble or pick. Touchy. But not calling time outs and conserving time saves games. Or not having them go for every 4th down will save games. Is this guy that clueless. He hasn’t iced our kicker yet but still.

 

[Diehardblues]

I do not see Booger firing McC and promoting Moore.

There is a lot of unknown about what Moore wants. Does he want to HC in the NFL or would he prefer to return to the Northwest and coach a Pac 12 team?

We know of one opening already and there are usually a minimum of 5 with owners' patience at an all time low.

I don't think he'd take the Raiders gig because Mark Davis is going to counter Gruden with hiring the first black lesbian head coach.

Funny stuff. Probably no one else could get away with typing that last sentence. And I was right.

You make a good point. We don’t really know what Moore wants. But he had an opportunity to go back to his Alma Mater and didn’t. So he might have higher aspirations to stay in the NFL.

And it will be interesting how soon he wants to make that move. Looks like that could be possible next year. I think Romo was spot on during his broadcast.

And he might get a choice where he wants to go. It’s never an optimum situation or the job wouldn’t be available. Unless someone’s retiring. Just saying ..

 

[Diehardblues]

Remember, Moore could of bolted to college ranks and turned that down because JJ was probably in his ear about how he gave him a shot as the OC when he probably would have had to go back to the college ranks to start his career as a OC. After this year Moore may have it in his head that he's filled his obligation to JJ and may seek offers from other clubs. With that said, I do believe that MM is a lame duck coach and Moore will be announced as the NEW HC shortly after the Cowboy's season ends. Here's hoping that JJ can entice Quinn to return as the DC since his stock is also raising too..........................

I hope your right that Jethro will make him HC next year. It will be interesting to see how that plays out.

I think there’s a chance we stumble in the playoffs from a Mikey idiotic decision which makes it easier . Or Jethro has history of firing SB winning coaches too. Not sure yet how that could play out. How this season ends will determine .

I’ll be shocked if Jethro lets Moore go and keep Mikey. Maybe promote Mikey in FO? I just don’t yet. But losing Moore will be painful for Jethro. And just over paying and a promise for later might not be enough. We’ll see. Moore is still so young he might wait.

Most likely Moore has higher aspirations than returning to NCAA. He knows he can make the jump faster in NFL as a highly sought after OC. Usually you go when the phones are ringing. Cause it could cool off. And phone not ring again.

 

[Diehardblues]

Agreed. His mistakes and bad decisions at bad times will cost us eventually. Dak and others that can call time outs needs to keep a eye on the clock. May cause some problems the next day but during the game it means win or loss. Or running another play like the chargers game could have made it a closer FG or got a TD. But could have been a fumble or pick. Touchy. But not calling time outs and conserving time saves games. Or not having them go for every 4th down will save games. Is this guy that clueless. He hasn’t iced our kicker yet but still.

Wait until one of these 4th down debacles cost us a game . It could be bigger than icing the kicker. Especially if it happens in playoffs.

 

[calicowboy54]

Romo said it a couple times yesterday during the broadcast that there’s no way Moore doesn’t become a HC next year.

So, most of my close Cowboy friends here locally are not happy with McCarthy despite the success we’re having . We all are excited about Moore and agree with Romo that he will be highly sought after next year.

Hopefully we will name Moore our HC next year before someone else does.

being a great developer does not mean you can lead a team of developers. some of the best leaders and managers are not the greatest technicians. i know moore has been a coach in this league for 3+ years now, he’s never coached at any level and had JG and Linahan has his coaching roll models. i personally think he needs 2 more years of seasoning

 

[glimmerman]

Wait until one of these 4th down debacles cost us a game . It could be bigger than icing the kicker. Especially if it happens in playoffs.

That’s the problem. You make the playoffs and there is no next week if you lose or make mistakes. If I am Dak and in the playoffs and a time out needs to be taken and he is not then take it.. Problem with going for it on 4th down is that the Offense always wants to go for it and they always think they can pick it up…

 

[Diehardblues]

That’s the problem. You make the playoffs and there is no next week if you lose or make mistakes. If I am Dak and in the playoffs and a time out needs to be taken and he is not then take it.. Problem with going for it on 4th down is that the Offense always wants to go for it and they always think they can pick it up…

Yep..And some fans always want to go for it.

I’d ask fans, who else around the league is making calls like this regularly?

It’s like anytime it’s 4th and short in our territory past the 30 yard line we’re going for it. Never seen anything like it in NFL.

 

[Diehardblues]

being a great developer does not mean you can lead a team of developers. some of the best leaders and managers are not the greatest technicians. i know moore has been a coach in this league for 3+ years now, he’s never coached at any level and had JG and Linahan has his coaching roll models. i personally think he needs 2 more years of seasoning

HC is in his blood. His father won several state championships as a HC. BTW his dad let his son call the plays. Kellen has been drawing up plays since Jr high. Lol