The case for losing in KC serving the greater good

[Doomsday101]

I disagree with that, the Cowboys best the Patriots in NE as they were starting their climb. That game started their move up the AFC list and that is a solid team.

They could have and should have won in TB.

The proof will come in the playoffs, that has always been the proving grounds and the Cowboys have not done well. That was those teams and not this one. One of the two losses was to the Broncos and they're sure as hell not a top team.

KC will be a tough road game but I think the tougher games are against NO, WFT, PHL and AZ.

The DAL-KC game is the NFL's eye candy game this week with stars aplenty but each team's division and conference games are more important.

sorry it just seems your trying to soften the blow should Dallas lose. Losing this game in no way helps the Cowboys. Stumbling when facing a lesser team it happens teams come in less focused than they should but games with a lot of hype where teams are jacked up and ready to go, losing those games do not help in any way. As for games with NO, Wash, Phil and Arz the only one in that bunch that is a true contending team is the Cards. I see this game vs KC as a measuring stick for this team and while a loss would not effect our season I think a win could send this team to the next level confidence wise. Again they already know what it feels like to have their butts handed to them when not focused on the task at hand.

 

[Diehardblues]

sorry it just seems your trying to soften the blow should Dallas lose. Losing this game in no way helps the Cowboys. Stumbling when facing a lesser team it happens teams come in less focused than they should but games with a lot of hype where teams are jacked up and ready to go, losing those games do not help in any way. As for games with NO, Wash, Phil and Arz the only one in that bunch that is a true contending team is the Cards. I see this game vs KC as a measuring stick for this team and while a loss would not effect our season I think a win could send this team to the next level confidence wise. Again they already know what it feels like to have their butts handed to them when not focused on the task at hand.

You might be right. He might be trying to get out ahead of a loss tempering the mood on the forum.

I’m beginning to shift my initial feelings with so many of our local papers overwhelming picking Dallas to win. If there’s anyone who influences my thoughts and opinions it’s our local beat writers.

 

[CouchCoach]

Are you admitting to trolling? Do you need more likes? I'd gladly give you some meaningless ones if you don't do stupid ship like this.

Win....that's is why we are here.

Anything else is unacceptable....even losing to learn how to win...is unacceptable.

If you don't know how to win NOW at this level.....then all is lost. We've already lost the ONE "lesson learned"...that SHOULD be enough for you shouldn't it? Now we need another one? To really make a point?

Stupid.

If I needed more Likes, I am going about it the wrong way. And meaningless Likes are like your Aunt Mildred trying to sneak some tongue in your annual kiss at Thanksgiving.

All my Likes have meaning or they're no Likes of mine.

No, I am not trolling, that was to a poster than has ben around a long time from the old forum. It was part of a running gag from there.

If one thinks this team can win out, then by all means win this game. If not, pick a better one to lose. The Chiefs are favored because of where they are playing and based on their last game. The spread is small because of the Cowboys last game. Is this winnable? Yes, it is. But it is also losable and I can see where this particular loss could be beneficial in the long run. It has just as much to do with where the Cowboys home market is and how they are put on pedestals prematurely. You saw the effect of that two weeks ago. Admitted by the QB.

Now, is the lesson learned? I am not sold on that.

 

[CouchCoach]

sorry it just seems your trying to soften the blow should Dallas lose. Losing this game in no way helps the Cowboys. Stumbling when facing a lesser team it happens teams come in less focused than they should but games with a lot of hype where teams are jacked up and ready to go, losing those games do not help in any way. As for games with NO, Wash, Phil and Arz the only one in that bunch that is a true contending team is the Cards. I see this game vs KC as a measuring stick for this team and while a loss would not effect our season I think a win could send this team to the next level confidence wise. Again they already know what it feels like to have their butts handed to them when not focused on the task at hand.

Then comes the fine line of confidence vs overconfidence and I've seen this franchise, not this team, show the latter when they owned homefield.

I have not yet seen proof that this team is not like those teams, except I did get a glimpse of that against DEN and they admitted they did not prepare well enough.

Confidence is like cumin in your chili, the right amount is perfection but too much and you have to start over.

Is the owner an enabler of overconfidence?

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

If I needed more Likes, I am going about it the wrong way. And meaningless Likes are like your Aunt Mildred trying to sneak some tongue in your annual kiss at Thanksgiving.

All my Likes have meaning or they're no Likes of mine.

No, I am not trolling, that was to a poster than has ben around a long time from the old forum. It was part of a running gag from there.

If one thinks this team can win out, then by all means win this game. If not, pick a better one to lose. The Chiefs are favored because of where they are playing and based on their last game. The spread is small because of the Cowboys last game. Is this winnable? Yes, it is. But it is also losable and I can see where this particular loss could be beneficial in the long run. It has just as much to do with where the Cowboys home market is and how they are put on pedestals prematurely. You saw the effect of that two weeks ago. Admitted by the QB.

Now, is the lesson learned? I am not sold on that.

Oh...in your head you are schooling me. Rich.

You've just admitted we suffered a learning lesson two weeks ago. If we need another one we're in bad shape. How many does it take?

No...I'm not claiming we win out....never did. But it's the goal. At this point of the season....no loss is a good one. At this point in the season...you should know who you are and what needs done. It shouldn't take a 2nd "learning loss " to know.

 

[Doomsday101]

Then comes the fine line of confidence vs overconfidence and I've seen this franchise, not this team, show the latter when they owned homefield.

I have not yet seen proof that this team is not like those teams, except I did get a glimpse of that against DEN and they admitted they did not prepare well enough.

Confidence is like cumin in your chili, the right amount is perfection but too much and you have to start over.

Is the owner an enabler of overconfidence?

and SB teams go out and win big games. I never recall the 90's team where the game they entered had the hype of a big game and they laid an egg. I can see a team having a hard time motivating themselves vs a lesser team but those playoff type matchups is a chance to flex your muscle and show as Parson said "We are not a team to be F with"

 

[McKDaddy]

At some point you need wins against quality teams so you enter any game knowing you can do it.

We are in "get over the hump" season. If the players can't stay focused down the stretch, they ain't gonna be focused no matter what happens.

 

[Whyjerry]

A loss is never good. Under any circumstances. Ever. Ever. Ever.

Miss playoffs by one game. Miss out on a home playoff game by one game. Home field advantage lost by one game. There are only 17. Every one counts.

 

[CouchCoach]

Oh...in your head you are schooling me. Rich.

You've just admitted we suffered a learning lesson two weeks ago. If we need another one we're in bad shape. How many does it take?

No...I'm not claiming we win out....never did. But it's the goal. At this point of the season....no loss is a good one. At this point in the season...you should know who you are and what needs done. It shouldn't take a 2nd "learning loss " to know.

CL, have you helped raise teenagers? Lots o lessons.

The KC is a measuring stick game, against the team and the road. If they come up short, but marginally, they know how far they have to go. Can they get there this year? I do not know.

I think one thing we can safely assume, righting the ship against ATL wasn't as big a thing as we thought it was.

If you get the feeling I am trying to school you, I am not. I am merely trying to explain my thinking process in this. I can see where losing a close game, as they did in TB, could be a benefit to the season more than a loss to any of the other teams on the schedule.

That TB game could have and maybe should have been a W. They know this and it will benefit them should they meet them again in the playoffs.

 

[CouchCoach]

A loss is never good. Under any circumstances. Ever. Ever. Ever.

Miss playoffs by one game. Miss out on a home playoff game by one game. Home field advantage lost by one game. There are only 17. Every one counts.

But I am assuming they are not going to win out,

 

[CouchCoach]

and SB teams go out and win big games. I never recall the 90's team where the game they entered had the hype of a big game and they laid an egg. I can see a team having a hard time motivating themselves vs a lesser team but those playoff type matchups is a chance to flex your muscle and show as Parson said "We are not a team to be F with"

At no time did I say "lay an egg". If this is a loss, it needs to be a close one like TB.

 

[Doomsday101]

At no time did I say "lay an egg". If this is a loss, it needs to be a close one like TB.

I just think from a mental stand point there is more to gain in a win than what they would get from a loss. If Dallas plays a good game and comes up short would that be devastating? no but I think a win would be a major boost to this team. As for winning out? Outside of this game and Cards game I think Cowboys enter all the other games as favorites. No reason if this team stays focused and hungry that they can't win out.

I would add that a win vs KC along with an outstanding performance by defense could send this team to the next level as a favorite to get to the SB

 

[CATCH17]

Winning this game would be huge. Make no mistake about it.

Playing KC at Arrowhead and winning is going to be tough. They are going to bring their A game.

The whole NFL world is watching this game Sunday.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

sorry it just seems your trying to soften the blow should Dallas lose. Losing this game in no way helps the Cowboys. Stumbling when facing a lesser team it happens teams come in less focused than they should but games with a lot of hype where teams are jacked up and ready to go, losing those games do not help in any way. As for games with NO, Wash, Phil and Arz the only one in that bunch that is a true contending team is the Cards. I see this game vs KC as a measuring stick for this team and while a loss would not effect our season I think a win could send this team to the next level confidence wise. Again they already know what it feels like to have their butts handed to them when not focused on the task at hand.

losing never helps.....if you need to lose to get motivated, there is bigger cultural issues. players should hate losing and that's motivation enough

 

[Doomsday101]

losing never helps.....if you need to lose to get motivated, there is bigger cultural issues. players should hate losing and that's motivation enough

True Michael Irvin said the biggest motivator for him was the fear of losing

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

True Michael Irvin said the biggest motivator for him was the fear of losing

all the great ones are that way. Jordan said he hated losing more than he liked winning. Aikman was similar, he hated losing. Brady is the epitome of hating to lose....if we can get that attitude, everything will work out.

 

[Vtwin]

Every single person who cites the fear of losing as a motivator does so only because they know how it feels to lose. Doesn't that indicate that there was ultimately a positive which came from those motivating losses? Isn't that CC's point?

Neither a win or a loss on Sunday will likely mean all that much in the end and there can be positives and negatives from either outcome. Ultimately, it is the character of the room and the coaches that will dictate the affect of the outcome on the team psyche.

(See 2007 NYG)

 

[Diehardblues]

“ aunt Mildred tonguing my ear” LMAO

 

[Diehardblues]

Winning this game would be huge. Make no mistake about it.

Playing KC at Arrowhead and winning is going to be tough. They are going to bring their A game.

The whole NFL world is watching this game Sunday.

This game is probably bigger for the fans than the players .

 

[CATCH17]

This game is probably bigger for the fans than the players .

Um no.

Games like this with the entire NFL watching can make guys careers or boost the team to another level.

It’s like saying our win in Pittsburgh in 2016 meant more to the fans than players.

This is a monster of a game for both teams.

Does it mean much in the big picture? Of course not. But it will be a huge momentum boost for whoever wins this game.