Cowboys not the same team without Amari Cooper

khiladi

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Even Cooper Rush, in this offense with this personnel, can get the ball to Amari in man coverage without starting a single NFL game in 4 years..
 

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I truly believe he’s the game changer. Prescott absolutely trust him. The perfect route runner. We’re not the same team on offense without him. Prescott and Amari stay healthy , This team win the whole thing

well, if no running game, Dak can't, if no Amari, Dak can't, if no Lamb, Dak can't, because the OL, Dak can't, so, why did they pay so much money to a QB that I couldn't?
 

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I truly believe he’s the game changer. Prescott absolutely trust him. The perfect route runner. We’re not the same team on offense without him. Prescott and Amari stay healthy , This team win the whole thing
it is a little nuts how much Amari seems to be to the offense. Hopefully he restructures next year so we can keep Galup.
 

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Even Cooper Rush, in this offense with this personnel, can get the ball to Amari in man coverage without starting a single NFL game in 4 years..
im not sure why people are so surprised anymore when these backups step in and play decent. They are still pro QBs who study film and practice everyday. It aint like they brought in some scrub off the street.
 

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NE just won a game doing the exact opposite of what you are proposing.

NE was running with great success. On vast majority of carries he was picking up chunks of yardage, not 1 or 2 yards. NE consistently was gashing Buffalo with the run game. So how is that opposite? I want to see Dallas run the ball and I want to see Oline better job of opening running lanes. I don't expect Dallas who for vast majority of the NO games was avg less than 3 yards for both RB. That was no where near what took place in Buffalo last night
 

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im not sure why people are so surprised anymore when these backups step in and play decent. They are still pro QBs who study film and practice everyday. It aint like they brought in some scrub off the street.

Yeah people underestimate the value of a scaled down game plan which ONLY asks the backup to do what he can do and doesn't ask him to be what he's not. The advantage with a guy like Rush or Gilbert last year is that they both had enough time in the league that they can go in and do the 5 or 6 things they are good at without peeing down their leg and the opposing DC has ZERO idea what those 5 or 6 things are. Unlike Dinucci who clearly went deer in headlights because he was a rook and in waaaay over his head.
 

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NE was running with great success. On vast majority of carries he was picking up chunks of yardage, not 1 or 2 yards. NE consistently was gashing Buffalo with the run game. So how is that opposite? I want to see Dallas run the ball and I want to see Oline better job of opening running lanes. I don't expect Dallas who for vast majority of the NO games was avg less than 3 yards for both RB. That was no where near what took place in Buffalo last night

NE was running off tackle and outside instead of ramming into the backs of the offensive line. The Cowboys could run better too if they adopted more of that approach.. Though I still think the lack of a good blocking TE and below average blocking receivers hinders our ability to run wide greatly.
 

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This is a rare instance where you and I agree 100%. I even posted on the game thread literally seconds before Pollard's big run that it looked like the Saints defense was starting to wear down and now would be a good time to try hitting one outside. Maybe 30 seconds after I hit enter.., BOOM!! Anybody advocating that you need to be getting 4-5 ypc or forget about running the ball doesn't understand winning football. MANY games are won running it for 2-3 ypc early because teams refuse to abandon it and are able to reap the rewards later in the game. Every defense in the league comes into the game trying to stop the run and make the opponent one dimensional. So early in games teams overcommit resources to try and get that done. As an OC you have to know that and keep reminding yourself that some of your early runs are going to yield meager results.. But you still have to do it.. because you need the defense to keep doing that in order to allow your passing game to keep getting favorable looks. If you just drop back and throw it every down they send 4 down linemen who ONLY have to go get your QB and cover your 5 receivers with 7 defenders. Guess who that matchup favors?

Dallas did not abandon the run now did they? If so Pollard run would never have happened but yes we did not run as much as I would like because they were being very ineffective running the ball. You get so many series in a game and if you are constantly behind the chains because 1 you are not run blocking very well with even Zack Martin has acknowledge and 2 you are up against one of the top run defense then all you are doing is spinning your wheels and banging your head against a wall. Pollard had the 1 big run for 58 yards outside of that he was avg 2.1 a carry while Zeke was 3.5. So on avg if you are going into a series and you start off 2nd and 8 how is that helping anything? In games earlier in the year Zeke would at least pick up 2 to 3 yards before contact and grind out an additional 2 to 3 yards. I want to run and no I do not expect homer run plays from RB but I sure as hell look for more than 2 to 3 yards a carry in hopes that maybe late in the game we could make 1 play.
 

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NE was running off tackle and outside instead of ramming into the backs of the offensive line. The Cowboys could run better too if they adopted more of that approach.. Though I still think the lack of a good blocking TE and below average blocking receivers hinders our ability to run wide greatly.

NE was laying some very good blocks, those guys up front have a job to do and NE line did just that, guys pulling around and actually taking 1 to 2 defenders out. I know OL do not get the love as other players do but without them doing their jobs those runs do not happen, RB was not doing that alone, he had holes both up the middle and outside. I watched the game and yes had outside runs as well as up the middle. Fact is they ran at will and that is not done with poor blocking.
 

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NE was laying some very good blocks, those guys up front have a job to do and NE line did just that, guys pulling around and actually taking 1 to 2 defenders out. I know OL do not get the love as other players do but without them doing their jobs those runs do not happen, RB was not doing that alone, he had holes both up the middle and outside. I watched the game and yes had outside runs as well as up the middle. Fact is they ran at will and that is not done with poor blocking.

Amen.. you gotta block to run the ball and clearly the Cowboys are not blocking worth a damn right now. But I suspect there is also an element of lack of rhythm on the part of the line as well. We are so inconsistent and willye nillye about when we run I don't think they are able to build up any kind of rhythm .. they get one running play where they get to hit the d-line in the mouth and then they get to get hit in the mouth 4-5 plays.. It's not a good tradeoff.
 

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well, if no running game, Dak can't, if no Amari, Dak can't, if no Lamb, Dak can't, because the OL, Dak can't, so, why did they pay so much money to a QB that I couldn't?
Dak hasn't lead us to a single win this season without the run game giving him at least 100 rushing yards of support.

Cooper Rush lead this team to a tough road win while only getting 78 rushing yards worth of support.

I'm just saying.
 

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Amen.. you gotta block to run the ball and clearly the Cowboys are not blocking worth a damn right now. But I suspect there is also an element of lack of rhythm on the part of the line as well. We are so inconsistent and willye nillye about when we run I don't think they are able to build up any kind of rhythm .. they get one running play where they get to hit the d-line in the mouth and then they get to get hit in the mouth 4-5 plays.. It's not a good tradeoff.

I think at the least we both believe in establishing a run game, something this team was doing very well earlier in the season but has fallen off. I know what I was seeing earlier in the year in how Cowboys were running it and what I see now. I know Nick Eatman has suggested that Conner Williams return to the line up claiming that most of the holding calls came within 1 game but Cowboys rushing attack with him in the lineup was successful. I can't say I am willing to go that far, my hope is the OL with McGovern starts to show more continuity both in run blocking and pass blocking. I will say if we do not start seeing improvement along the Oline pretty quick I would start to consider bring Williams back in.
 

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I think at the least we both believe in establishing a run game, something this team was doing very well earlier in the season but has fallen off. I know what I was seeing earlier in the year in how Cowboys were running it and what I see now. I know Nick Eatman has suggested that Conner Williams return to the line up claiming that most of the holding calls came within 1 game but Cowboys rushing attack with him in the lineup was successful. I can't say I am willing to go that far, my hope is the OL with McGovern starts to show more continuity both in run blocking and pass blocking. I will say if we do not start seeing improvement along the Oline pretty quick I would start to consider bring Williams back in.

I would support re-inserting Williams into the line up as well. I think McGovern has no had a three game audition to prove he is better and frankly he has failed. I supported the thinking behind the switch but don't be stubborn and continue to fail because you're too proud to admit a mistake. And in fact it wasn't a mistake.. It was a change that you owed it to yourself to try. The fact that it has not worked out does in no way invalidate the effort.. You're supposed to try to get better.. That doesn't mean it's always going to work.. but you're supposed to try.
 

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Dak hasn't lead us to a single win this season without the run game giving him at least 100 rushing yards of support.

Cooper Rush lead this team to a tough road win while only getting 78 rushing yards worth of support.

I'm just saying.
that's the point, I am not against Dak as a player, I am against the contract that was given to him, and the respond that he is giving under that contract, if Dak charged less than what he is paid, it would be fine, his performance would be adequate and not we would object, but what happens? He is paid an exaggerated amount, for a player who cannot respond in critical situations, and due to his contract it is possible that very good players will no longer be in the team next season, and he will return to the method of hiring the cheapest and then cut them after a few games. the same situation that happened when Romo was,
 

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Dak hasn't lead us to a single win this season without the run game giving him at least 100 rushing yards of support.

Cooper Rush lead this team to a tough road win while only getting 78 rushing yards worth of support.

I'm just saying.

Do you think Rush would've won that game if the Cowboys defense had given up 500 yards? Because that's what Dak had to overcome without Cooper AND Lamb
 
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