For Those Who Don’t Like That We Paid Dak, What Was Your Alternative?

[kskboys]

Dalton isn't ideal but was serviceable untill the rookie is ready. Look at all these high priced rooms now, they suck and Dalton is capable of winning games with the talent we have. Someone who can run a bit would be good too. You are right that hitting on Parsons might extend this window. It really depends on Stephen and how he uses the cap going forward. But every year is different and no one's won this division twice in a row in what seems like forever. Time will tell. If the defense keeps balling out maybe Dak doesn't have to be great, and then none of us will care about the contract.

We will have to continue building this D to make that so. We have a nice D, but not a dominating one.

 

[kskboys]

Just like it wasn’t going to happen because you say so.. I can easily say it would happen because I say so.

We will never know what could’ve been done because the Jones’s made no effort and let Dak’s agent absolutely destroy them on negotiations.

Im not going to spend a bunch of time rehashing what I did for years on here with other options besides Dak.

Signing Dak to that deal was always a mistake and Dallas let him hold them hostage and punted away any of their leverage when they had it.

Dak agreed to a deal the previous season, and then renegged.

How do so many people not know this? He also lost 2 mil by holding out. Simple math.

 

[kskboys]

I think that question should be asked again after February 13th. All that matters is, can we win a superbowl with him? And with the Defense playing as it is, the chance hasn't been better for 20 years in my opinion. We'll probably lose a few important guys to FA, so doing it now would be nice timing too.

I don't care about their salaries in general. When Dak sucks he sucks, when he plays great he's great. Whether he earns base salary or is among the highest paid QBs in the league. And all that matters is what happens on the field. On paper we have a great team together even with all those "overpaid" guys, so it's a moot point, at least for now. I mean what signing has his salary made impossible? We have all the guys we want. Lamb just needs to stop dropping balls and the O Line has to hold the fort like they did in the first third of the season. Then we're all set.

So to answer the initial question, I think I would have signed him, but would have risked a hold out or losing him or at least exclude the no trade clause. I think 35mill a year would have been my max.. But woulda coulda... he's here so let's deal with it.

The driveblocking OG and the backup OT. Pretty obvious, actually.

Teams w/ a player who make 20% of the cap don't win super bowls. If you don't care about salary, you don't care about winning super bowls.

 

[jaythecowboy]

Dak agreed to a deal the previous season, and then renegged.

How do so many people not know this? He also lost 2 mil by holding out. Simple math.

I never seen this confirmed but even if it was true I would not blame him for it. Until the deal is signed you don't have a deal. If Dak came out that season playing like trash I would fully expect the Cowboys to lower their offer. I don't see how you can say he lost money though. The deal he is reported to have backed out of was $35 million a year for 5 years ($175 million). Instead he played on a $31 million franchise tag and then signed a deal for $40 million a year for 4 years ($191 million).

 

[kskboys]

I never seen this confirmed but even if it was true I would not blame him for it. Until the deal is signed you don't have a deal. If Dak came out that season playing like trash I would fully expect the Cowboys to lower their offer. I don't see how you can say he lost money though. The deal he is reported to have backed out of was $35 million a year for 5 years ($175 million). Instead he played on a $31 million franchise tag and then signed a deal for $40 million a year for 4 years ($191 million).

Ooops. I missed 2020!!!! My bad!!!

Disagree. I'm very big on manning up and keeping one's word. If you agree, it should be set in stone.

 

[CouchCoach]

It is not about my alternative but the Joneses’ alternative which was not much. They have proven that they need luck to fill that position.

They could have investigated signing Brady instead of resigning Prescott but they were too far down the Dak road. The GM had shot his mouth off selling Prescott and how smart they were lucking out with their 3rd choice that he would have looked stupid not resigning him.

 

[MyFairLady]

In case you guys were unaware or missed out Dak actually signed the 2nd franchise tag just before he signed his big deal. So not only did we not force him to play out another 1 year deal at 37.5 million (less than 40 million) we wasted franchise tag number 2 making it impossible to franchise tag him again at the end of the current 4 year deal. Basically it was Jerry bending over, taking it, and asking for more.

 

[Reverend Conehead]

Yes Dakota's contract is hurting the defense

Dak Haters are..........(fill in the Hate)

It's not hurting now with so many plays on rookie contracts, but it will hurt when their contracts are up and we need to re-sign people.

 

[charron]

We will have to continue building this D to make that so. We have a nice D, but not a dominating one.

Agreed. We're going to lose some pieces next off-season. But we also need to rebuild the offense too.
This off-season will be interesting to see how they manage or blame the cap.

 

[Qcard]

It's not hurting now with so many plays on rookie contracts, but it will hurt when their contracts are up and we need to re-sign people.

Yes...and the Cowboys will stop Drafting smh

Go sell scared Cap somewhere else

 

[gimmesix]

I’ve seen a lot of “we shouldn’t have paid him” talk and I’m genuinely curious as to what you resident CowboysZone GM’s would’ve done. He’s a top 10 QB. The way the market works is the next man up in that top 10ish bracket gets a top contract. He’s the 4th highest paid right now, in two years he’ll be the 8th or 9th. He’s not the highest paid QB forever. His teammates adore him there’s no way not signing him would go over well in the locker room. I don’t see any scenario where we let him go and are 10-4 at this point in the season.

What would’ve been y’all’s alternative? A rookie QB and miss out on the next best thing since LT? Try to sell the farm to Seattle when they obviously weren’t interested in trading away their only hope for winning football?

Seriously, what would y’all have done this offseason if you cut the chord on Dak?

That's the problem with not re-signing players, it always comes at a cost no matter what. We don't pay Dak, then we're likely re-signing Dalton and drafting a quarterback (Mac Jones) in the first round. That probably means one of our FA pickups isn't signed and it definitely means we don't get Parsons.

Since I believe Prescott is good enough to win a Super Bowl with, with the right supporting cast (just like other quarterbacks need), I'm totally OK with the re-signing. I don't buy into the theory that we can just let good players go and replace them.

 

[CowboyRoy]

This sounds too much like the people who wanted to keep Garrett and kept saying "who do we replace him with"? Garrett sucked and Dak isn't playing anywhere close to earning what he is paid.

There is no alternative right now - we get that. But that doesn't mean Dallas should ignore the fact that Dak isn't playing worth a crap and maybe they should start looking for another QB in the next draft or in 2023.

10-4 and rocking buddy. Maybe its time for you to take a hike. No one will miss your nonsense here.

Dak and the Cowboys continue to make a fool out of you.

 

[diamonddelts]

It's not hurting now with so many plays on rookie contracts, but it will hurt when their contracts are up and we need to re-sign people.

The salary cap will increase over time. It's not gonna be stagnant at its current level. Scared money don't make money.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Most QBs are as good as their surrounding cast.

Dak is one of those guys. We can find another QB that’s as good as the guys around him. They’re everywhere.

Like Dalton?

Your opinion is worthless. You wouldnt know a great QB if you saw one. You are the guy that said Beatherd and Kaya were better than Mahomes coming out of college. You are the guy that said you would rather have Dalton than Dak. You are the guy that said Dalton would run the offense better than Dak.

 

[CowboyRoy]

The Cowboys should have paid Dak. He earned his money. My issue is the Joneses should have kept the pay similar to Watson or a little more. I think Dak would have caved and signed for 38 million annually. Jerrah caved to media pressure.

Yah and wow, that 2 million would have really come in handy.

What about Zeke's 15 million. One would think a financial stickler like you would be talking about that one.

 

[nalam]

I’ve….

What would’ve been y’all’s alternative? A rookie QB and miss out on the next best thing since LT? Try to sell the farm to Seattle when they obviously weren’t interested in trading away their only hope for winning football?

Seriously, what would y’all have done this offseason if you cut the chord on Dak?

unfortunately that was the market price for Franchise QB at the time of signing. Jerry/ Stephen had a chance to sign him up far cheaper one year before and they didn’t . Or we should have drafted a QB and brought in a decent veteren and started over.

when none of those choices are attractive , you need to bite bullet and pay , but no trade clause is a bit too much . Dak’s Agent won this round completely.

 

[CowboyRoy]

And that's like the 20th option that these clowns do not understand!

10-4 well worth the money. Soon to be 11-4.

 

[CowboyRoy]

unfortunately that was the market price for Franchise QB at the time of signing. Jerry/ Stephen had a chance to sign him up far cheaper one year before and they didn’t . Or we should have drafted a QB and brought in a decent veteren and started over.

when none of those choices are attractive , you need to bite bullet and pay , but no trade clause is a bit too much . Dak’s Agent won this round completely.

Started over?

Stupid is as stupid does!!!

 

[shabazz]

If the Cowboys can win a Superbowl in the next two to three years without having the ability to sign free agents to help the defense.... Then the money was well spent on the Prescott contract

 

[MyFairLady]

If the Cowboys can win a Superbowl in the next two to three years without having the ability to sign free agents to help the defense.... Then the money was well spent on the Prescott contract

Just making it to the superbowl would be enough for me. Heck even making the NFC championship game would be good enough for me as long as he is a positive contributor.