Despite what many think, future is bright

[Diehardblues]

There is light mainly cause rest of our division is down. If not we’d be a borderline playoff team.

 

[blueblood70]

We won't go 6-0 in the division next year.
The Eagles (3), Giants (2), & Washington (1) have 6 picks before our first pick in the upcoming draft.

and we won't go 6-5 in the other games we lost them by less them 3 points in 3 of them 6 in one and 10 in another, less mistakes and those are wins. Got it? how that for a alternate view.

 

[Silver N Blue]

 

[blueblood70]

At this point, I would have to say the hope of the future lies on one of two plans:

1. The Broken Clock Plan- you know- where the time is right 2 times in 24 hrs.
2. The Blind Squirrel Finds A Nut Plan- 100% luck.

Both are pretty much based on luck.

can say that for all 32 teams then.

 

[fivetwos]

He won 13 games in his rookie year because they played a certain way.

Someone thereafter decided they wanted to change that and feature him and he got exposed.

They CAN win with him but they need to use him a certain way, and also nail every draft because of what they are paying him.

Impossible? Nope.

Unlikely? Meh not sure.

Probable? Wouldn't say that.

 

[blueblood70]

back at ya

 

[Silver N Blue]

back at ya

 

[Hawkeye0202]

The objective is not to make the playoffs. The objective is to win a super bowl. This team has no chance as constructed and the talent base will continue to erode as the team comes to terms with the consequences of Dak's rich contract. Dak is 1-3 in playoffs games over his career and was 1-5 this year against playoffs teams not in Philly. So, I'm not sure from what your hope emanates. Dak is going into his 7th season next year trying to prove he's more than a paper tiger who pads his stats against bad teams and in garbage time.

Wrong......objective is to get to the playoff and give yourself a chance at the big dance. Noticed how coaches refused to talk about Super Bowl during the season. My point, build a team that consistently win/competes for the division. Don't get me wrong, of course, you wanna win a Super Bowl but it's unrealistic to expect the think you're building a team good enough for a "super bowl" every year.

 

[MonsterD]

This thread is going well.

 

[morat1959]

I love how this fan base gets excited, then we lose like the other 31 teams and then its ALWAYS Doomsday around here. Yea it's been a LOOONG 26 plus years! However I remeber the horrible years in the late 90s and early 2000s. I wonder how we'd all feel just winning 4 and 5 games every year?!. We could be the lions etc lol. Don't give me the we are in the same boat as the lions and jets blah blah!

There are winners and losers. We are losers! Doesn’t matter if we’re 12-5 or 5-12. JJ has conditioned many to accept mediocrity as greatness. We are in the same boat as we’ve been in for 25 plus years.

 

[blueblood70]

He won 13 games in his rookie year because they played a certain way.

Someone thereafter decided they wanted to change that and feature him and he got exposed.

They CAN win with him but they need to use him a certain way, and also nail every draft because of what they are paying him.

Impossible? Nope.

Unlikely? Meh not sure.

Probable? Wouldn't say that.

the offensive line played better it was better, the run game was better the play calls were more balanced all of it tired of the dak narrative. Teams advance to the sb takes team all..easy to see even a qb playing near perfect game like Allen did and they lost hes sitting at home as well ig the goal is the sb he lost.

this tears early exit is not dak issue its an OL issue, OC issue OLC issue sure he was nt perfect but he didn't get help from his team, period. case in point 14 penalties NOT on Dak. playing 1st and 20 half the series isnt recipe of success..you telling me qb has to be so good he overcomes all the other mistakes by the rest of his team??

give that a break already.

 

[morat1959]

Wrong......objective is to get to the playoff and give yourself a chance at the big dance. Noticed how coaches refused to talk about Super Bowl during the season. My point, build a team that consistently win/competes for the division. Don't get me wrong, of course, you wanna win a Super Bowl but it's unrealistic to expect the think you're building a team good enough for a "super bowl" every year.

How bout every 27 years?

 

[TheHerd]

Dak’s QBR this year was 54.7. Matt Stafford has only been that low once in the last 7 years. Don’t let Detroit deceive you

If you want to use stats, Dak's QBR since he came into the league: 77.6, 70.0, 55.2, 71.9, 73.1, 54.5
Stafford: 37.1, 50.1, 60.5, 57.7, 53.5, 44.7, 58.3, 65.2, 65.3, 51.3, 71.3, 61.3, 63.8

With Dak it's never about the stats but the timing and coming up small against better defenses.

 

[fivetwos]

the offensive line played better it was better, the run game was better the play calls were more balanced all of it tired of the dak narrative. Teams advance to the sb takes team all..easy to see even a qb playing near perfect game like Allen did and they lost hes sitting at home as well ig the goal is the sb he lost.

this tears early exit is not dak issue its an OL issue, OC issue OLC issue sure he was nt perfect but he didn't get help from his team, period. case in point 14 penalties NOT on Dak. playing 1st and 20 half the series isnt recipe of success..you telling me qb has to be so good he overcomes all the other mistakes by the rest of his team??

give that a break already.

Well, yes.

That 2016 OL was much better than the current one.

Fred was a pure stud and Ron Leary was big time solid.

We need to get back to that. There's names and high picks on paper but they were brutal as a unit.

This isn't something that can't be fixed in one offseason, but we also need an OC that isn't so pass happy.

Bottom line is Dak Prescott is much better on 3rd and 3 than on 3rd and 9....but who wouldnt be?

The point of the thread is if we can win with him or not.

If they focus on better OL play and running the ball? Yes

If they continue to think he can win on his own with his arm? I doubt it.

I DO realize it could be way worse and 15 teams would gladly pay Prescott 40 million over status quo, but coaches need to play to peoples strengths and weaknesses, not their pay check.

 

[blueblood70]

Wrong......objective is to get to the playoff and give yourself a chance at the big dance. Noticed how coaches refused to talk about Super Bowl during the season. My point, build a team that consistently win/competes for the division. Don't get me wrong, of course, you wanna win a Super Bowl but it's unrealistic to expect the think you're building a team good enough for a "super bowl" every year.

WRONG back at ya! how deos that feel you opinion carries no more weight than mine. I say we did have the talent and imploded due to an enormous number of penalties.

ironically how is it KC and Bills game had like 4 total penalties and they went to OT.. you are telling me those players played that penalty free they never held etc never made mistkes.

wrong replays show they didnt and they werent called. the 9er game i saw 4 egregious holds and 2 false starts not called once we saw replays after the game etc odd they weren't called. not saying ours weren't penalty's or theres a conspiracy but we got some crews that were flag happy on us yet ate the flags or went blind on their side.

I mean you trying to tell me how the official in the rams game on long play in the final drive somehow beat the team back to ball set it and got out of the way ours in 9ers game got their 2 secs after the OL and qb and then ran into our players, you dont find that as bad Luck or unlucky draw if officials.

we lost so many close games under 4 points or less then score the penalties just few going the other way or not being done and we win those we are a talented team and for some reason we are snake bitten for whatever reason. the sunlight play etc just get back play or two taken away but sheer bad luck or bad timing and we win..that's my opinion.

so take your wrong and ill up you six IDCs i saw from the perspective that makes a lot of sense and il go with that over the narratives created around here.

 

[JoeKing]

When you look at the landscape of the division and the future of the conference, Cowboys future looks bright:

-NFC East teams outside of Cowboys still look bad.
-NFC South-could have 4 rebuilding teams when Brady/Ryan retire
-NFC North-worse then the NFC East after Rodgers leaves or retires. Fields/Goff don't scare anyone.
-NFC West-Stafford is at the end of his career, Wilson probably departs, Murray/Lance

There is no reason to believe the Cowboys cannot be a playoff team with a high seed for many years to come, barring injuries. Yes, I still believe that Dak is good enough to win a SB in this league, despite all the hate he receives on this board.

Hey bro, stop bogarting whatever it is you're smoking. Give others a chance to get baked like you obviously are. Share dude!

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

If you want to use stats, Dak's QBR since he came into the league: 77.6, 70.0, 55.2, 71.9, 73.1, 54.5
Stafford: 37.1, 50.1, 60.5, 57.7, 53.5, 44.7, 58.3, 65.2, 65.3, 51.3, 71.3, 61.3, 63.8

With Dak it's never about the stats but the timing and coming up small against better defenses.

And my point wasn’t that Stafford is so much better than Dak, but that him being “not very good” is a silly assessment based entirely on everything that’s wrong with the Lions. Dak had a fantastic year this year IMO, and it’s not too indifferent from what you could expect from Matt

 

[tyke1doe]

I predict we won't make the playoffs next year.
Philly will likely take the division. They made the playoffs with Jalen Hurts and a steady run game and have three first round picks. WFT doesn't have a quarterback, but their defense will be better as Chase Young returns from injury. The Giants may be two years away from competing but have two first round picks.
Plus, we'll be playing Green Bay, Tampa Bay and Los Angeles Rams, Cincinnati - which could be possible losses.
Also, too much upheaval with Quinn leaving, Zeke getting older, Moore possibly staying (I don't think he'll get a head coaching job), teams figuring out Dak, possibly losing DLaw, Randy Gregory, Amari Cooper, Michael Gallup, Dalton Schultz, et al.
And I expect MM to be all bluster and bark.
I'm glad someone else has optimistic glasses on, but after 26 years of futility, I might have to buy @Pessimist_cowboy moniker.

 

[MaineBoy]

And my point wasn’t that Stafford is so much better than Dak, but that him being “not very good” is a silly assessment based entirely on everything that’s wrong with the Lions. Dak had a fantastic year this year IMO, and it’s not too indifferent from what you could expect from Matt

Dak had a fantastic year ? You should watch the games. And don’t come back with lame stats.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

Dak had a fantastic year ? You should watch the games. And don’t come back with lame stats.

I saw most of the games, he’s not a perfect QB but there’s a lot worse out there.