Sean Payton would be MM 2.0

[TheCritic]

Same resume. But more importantly, look at that gut!! He has clearly chunked out and his comments about being ok with completely lost. No thank you. Payton would clearly not be an upgrade from McFatty.

 

[mattjames2010]

This what the forum has devolved into? Criticizing coaches weight?

I'll take Andy Reid and Bruce Arians, I don't care if they gain another 200 pounds. Billy is quite fat now too. Who cares?

 

[Acceptablename]

Same resume. But more importantly, look at that gut!! He has clearly chunked out and his comments about being ok with completely lost. No thank you. Payton would clearly not be an upgrade from McFatty.

We’ve played against Peyton and its always a clever match. If you think Peyton is piggy looking you must be living around some starving pigs

 

[noshame]

So....let me summarize
You got nothing.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

Isn't 2.0 an upgrade though?

 

[sunalsorises]

Jameis Winston has him eating a lot of W's.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

I don't see the difference

Don't get me wrong, I think they both have their own individual strengths and weakness, but in essence both are Super Bowl winning head coaches, who managed just one Super Bowl appearance with a HOF QB

I don't really judge McCarthy for that given how hard it is to get to a Super Bowl, let alone win it, so I'm obviously not judging Payton, but I just don't see Payton as a huge upgrade or really an upgrade at all

 

[DasTex]

I don't get this comparison at all.

Just because they each won 1 super bowl with a top QB does not mean that are equal to each other.

I guess they are both equal to the offensive genius Andy Reid as well?

 

[blueblood70]

Same resume. But more importantly, look at that gut!! He has clearly chunked out and his comments about being ok with completely lost. No thank you. Payton would clearly not be an upgrade from McFatty.

agree to point

hes a slight upgrade because hes bit more hands on, on the sidielines and developing players like qbs vs a Walek around that MM is but SP is not worth the price they will ask and the money in buyouts to both contracts for SLIGHT upgrade.

 

[mattjames2010]

I don't get this comparison at all.

Just because they each won 1 super bowl with a top QB does not mean that are equal to each other.

I guess they are both equal to the offensive genius Andy Reid as well?

You don't? They both had HOF QBs for most of their HC careers, both had failing seasons with said HOF QBs, flubs in the playoffs with said HOF. Their overall records are similar and appearances in championships, etc.

They aren't that far apart. Andy Reid is above both Payton and McCarthy, in my opinion and the way the NFL is now suits his style far more than it used to.

 

[DasTex]

You don't? They both had HOF QBs for most of their HC careers, both had failing seasons with said HOF QBs, flubs in the playoffs with said HOF. Their overall records are similar and appearances in championships, etc.

They aren't that far apart. Andy Reid is above both Payton and McCarthy, in my opinion and the way the NFL is now suits his style far more than it used to.

Andy Reid has only 1 Super Bowl win as well - his QB's haven't been exactly garbage.

The Saints were victim to one of the worst non calls of all time or they would have likely been in another Super Bowl.

 

[texbumthelife]

Same resume. But more importantly, look at that gut!! He has clearly chunked out and his comments about being ok with completely lost. No thank you. Payton would clearly not be an upgrade from McFatty.

People with less than 1000 likes shouldn’t be allowed to start threads.

 

[jujoboys]

Same resume. But more importantly, look at that gut!! He has clearly chunked out and his comments about being ok with completely lost. No thank you. Payton would clearly not be an upgrade from McFatty.

So enlighten us on who you would have as the Head Coach of the Cowboys and make it a realistic option. It can't be a coach firmly entrenched in their organization such as a Bill Belichick, Andy Reid, etc. If you don't like Mike McCarthy or Sean Payton then who?

Personally I like the idea of Sean Payton. He would be calling his own offensive plays which means we could dump the boy genius Kellen Moore.

 

[buddieluver]

So enlighten us on who you would have as the Head Coach of the Cowboys and make it a realistic option. It can't be a coach firmly entrenched in their organization such as a Bill Belichick, Andy Reid, etc. If you don't like Mike McCarthy or Sean Payton then who?

Personally I like the idea of Sean Payton. He would be calling his own offensive plays which means we could dump the boy genius Kellen Moore.

I would to know this as well.

 

[mattjames2010]

Andy Reid has only 1 Super Bowl win as well - his QB's haven't been exactly garbage.

The Saints were victim to one of the worst non calls of all time or they would have likely been in another Super Bowl.

....that Super Bowl is recent and he just now got a transcending QB. He had Vick for a year and McNabb (good not great) for a while. Not the same.

And someone else tried this BS yesterday. That was the NFC championship game - they still failed in overtime and what about all the others seasons after 2009? Payton didn't do anything with it. Actually, he went 7-9 for three straight seasons WITH Brees.

 

[mattjames2010]

So enlighten us on who you would have as the Head Coach of the Cowboys and make it a realistic option. It can't be a coach firmly entrenched in their organization such as a Bill Belichick, Andy Reid, etc. If you don't like Mike McCarthy or Sean Payton then who?

Personally I like the idea of Sean Payton. He would be calling his own offensive plays which means we could dump the boy genius Kellen Moore.

Why do you need a veteran coach? Arians and Reid are doing great, but they also have HOF or future HOF QBs. We getting one of them soon? Sean McVay and Kyle Shanahan will be going to their second Super Bowls depending on who wins on Sunday. Young guys with modern offenses.

And Moore is doing well for himself for being in his fourth year of coaching. He has a future. Whether that is HC or not, we'll see.

 

[fivetwos]

I don't see the difference

Don't get me wrong, I think they both have their own individual strengths and weakness, but in essence both are Super Bowl winning head coaches, who managed just one Super Bowl appearance with a HOF QB

I don't really judge McCarthy for that given how hard it is to get to a Super Bowl, let alone win it, so I'm obviously not judging Payton, but I just don't see Payton as a huge upgrade or really an upgrade at all

Parcells has ONE SB also if Norwood makes a kick.

 

[mattjames2010]

Parcells has ONE SB also if Norwood makes a kick.

...okay?

 

[Loso86]

Same resume. But more importantly, look at that gut!! He has clearly chunked out and his comments about being ok with completely lost. No thank you. Payton would clearly not be an upgrade from McFatty.

Except he will Hve complete control of HIS offense, we keep forgetting that

 

[G2]

You don't? They both had HOF QBs for most of their HC careers, both had failing seasons with said HOF QBs, flubs in the playoffs with said HOF. Their overall records are similar and appearances in championships, etc.

They aren't that far apart. Andy Reid is above both Payton and McCarthy, in my opinion and the way the NFL is now suits his style far more than it used to.

Reid is on a different level, getting to the Super Bowl is ridiculously hard, getting with two teams and a win is pretty crazy.