well you just hell bent on proving that the current state of the team is dak's fault.
I never said lowballed him, I just said the offer was lower than what he was willing to accept. FACT. undeniable fact. the two sides didn't come to agreement and they walked away. FACT, undeniable fact.
so this low ball stuff is your line of thinking, as it is obviously your premise that he is greedy and that low balling non-sense is part of the logic you are trying to insist to prove Dak is greedy. all I said and its a fact that the offer was lower than he was willing to accept and that they could have had him for cheaper if they would have been willing to meet the demands back then than compared to what he eventually got (FACT, undeniable fact). the fact that Jones' walked away not willing to pay an additional couple of millions or so....its called a negotiation....at any point the parties can simply walk away (i.e. see Randy gregory)
i the negotiation sticking point was the length of the contract second time around. its well documented in the media and subsequently they agreed to a much higher contract value with longer length...if you want to say the media is not the proof of anything and show me where that's the case...then I am going to ask you show me as there is no proof outside of what was reported by the media in either case.
and it wasn't a 4, vs. 5, it was a 4 vs. 6 years and the reason behind it as reported by the media was to hit FA after 2023 when the cap goes up significantly.....that's why goff, Wentz and Wilson signed extensions and their teams willing to do so, as they all become FA in 2023 or 2024 (they all bet on themzelves just like Dak), with the expected raise in the cap, expecting salaries to go up significanty would give them opportunity to negotiate a much higher contract.
and Dak played hardball.. ok, lets assume he did....SO WHAT? he is within his negotiating rights to ask for $80M/ year as I said before....if that's what he thinks he can get. now, fans would balk and argue about contract value, etc.....but us fans opinions has absolutely zero bearing on anything other than our emotional investment and opinions in ranking players based on contract value (how many times did we hear he is second highest paid and should play at second highest level, but I guess now our expectations are lower because he is now the 4th highest paid which is what I mentioned back then too....).
facts.....Jones could have walked away. facts he didn't. you blame Dak for that. which is because of your anger and hatred towards Dak and your emotional investment in all of this.
Dak didn't sign himself to a contract. it takes two. a player will ask for as much as he thinks he can get. Gregory could have asked for 20M. would he get it? Clowney was reported to be wanting upwards of 20-22M/year for his contract. he didn't get it. he was on a one year deal with Cleveland.
once you put your emotions and anger and hatred away and look at this purely in a business perspective you will clearly see, its not about greed and what anyone owes anybody....its a business negotiation of what I think my services are worth (based on my own opinion) and what the other side is willing to pay and thinks I am worth... I have been in similar situations and demanded a much higher dollar rate and the contracting agency walked away and weren't willing to do it.....see, they walked away. I have been able to get similar rates in the past from other contracting agencies. see, they didn't walk away. its not greed. its business. purely and simply, nothing but.
You sir, are a real piece of work.
I made it clear that an assignment of "fault" was not even in my mind. I made it crystal clear numerous times with bolded and italics to make it crystal clear what I was saying. Yet you open your latest diatribe with "well you just hell bent on proving that the current state of the team is dak's fault.". LOL... I guess I should try using colors to reach you.
You are literally arguing with yourself here. Most of this gibberish has nothing to do with anything I have said. I get it though. When you get owned so thoroughly,,, ya got to do what ya got to do, amirite??
Let's review.
You said Dak could have been signed in 2018 for 24ish proving that you don't what you are talking about since that is by rule, not even possible. Big hit to your credibility right there.
Now you provide your latest gem. That it was 4 vs 6. Wrong and easily verifiable. Another direct hit on your credibility. Apparently you couldn't answer my challenge and produce one example of a franchise QB contract being only four years
overall.
The best one yet though.... You actually said
"and subsequently they agreed to a much higher contract value with longer length." Credibility gone. Do yourself a favor and take a second to refresh yourself on the facts. Specifically the length. There was nothing "longer" about it.
I realize that this is a waste of my time as you are going to do what you always do and twist my words into something I didn't say and then argue against arguments I never made in order to serve your seemingly massive ego.
There are two types of people in the world. Those that want to BE right and those that want to get it right.
I'll finish by doing something I do after a difficult training session with a dog. No matter how difficult it was I always make sure to end on a positive note by asking for something we've already gotten down so we can end on a successful note, with treats and praise, in order give us the best chance for success the next time we go to work.
So in that vein.... I ask you.... can we agree that today is Wednesday?
(SIts back and waits for an explanation about time zones and the Earths rotation and that it might not be Wednesday on the other side of the planet.....)
