Dak has ruined this team

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Banks???? you are gonna have to clue me in on what year that was.

They won with Dilfer?? hmm, what year was that , let me see.The Ravens 2000 defense is possibly the greatest defense in NFL history. They allowed 3,10,7, and 3 points in their 4 playoffs game. Dont talk to me about Trent Dilfer.

I believe in 2000, Tony Banks started for them. and then Dilfer finished the season and obviously went to the superbowl. their defense was do good, that they went 3-0 and their defense allowing 0,0, 10 points. but surprisingly went 0-3 after that streak allowing 10-14-9 points......because their offense scored 3, 6,6.....

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

You sir, are a real piece of work.

I made it clear that an assignment of "fault" was not even in my mind. I made it crystal clear numerous times with bolded and italics to make it crystal clear what I was saying. Yet you open your latest diatribe with "well you just hell bent on proving that the current state of the team is dak's fault.". LOL... I guess I should try using colors to reach you.

You are literally arguing with yourself here. Most of this gibberish has nothing to do with anything I have said. I get it though. When you get owned so thoroughly,,, ya got to do what ya got to do, amirite??

Let's review.
You said Dak could have been signed in 2018 for 24ish proving that you don't what you are talking about since that is by rule, not even possible. Big hit to your credibility right there.

Now you provide your latest gem. That it was 4 vs 6. Wrong and easily verifiable. Another direct hit on your credibility. Apparently you couldn't answer my challenge and produce one example of a franchise QB contract being only four years overall.

The best one yet though.... You actually said "and subsequently they agreed to a much higher contract value with longer length." Credibility gone. Do yourself a favor and take a second to refresh yourself on the facts. Specifically the length. There was nothing "longer" about it.

I realize that this is a waste of my time as you are going to do what you always do and twist my words into something I didn't say and then argue against arguments I never made in order to serve your seemingly massive ego.

There are two types of people in the world. Those that want to BE right and those that want to get it right.

I'll finish by doing something I do after a difficult training session with a dog. No matter how difficult it was I always make sure to end on a positive note by asking for something we've already gotten down so we can end on a successful note, with treats and praise, in order give us the best chance for success the next time we go to work.

So in that vein.... I ask you.... can we agree that today is Wednesday?

(SIts back and waits for an explanation about time zones and the Earths rotation and that it might not be Wednesday on the other side of the planet.....)

well, you had zero credibility to start with. an agenda to drive and based on your recent posts you now are in negative credibility territory.

and I find it funny, you said, they had offer of 33-35M and that was fair market value, and subsequently they agreed to a larger contract averaging 40M....the very definition of agreeing to a much higher contract value and length (6 years).. talking about someone who is arguing against themselves

geez dude. get yourself together.

DONE.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

how many 2000 ravens defenses have there been? You are a fool if you thnk you can just spend and draft a 2000 ravens defense. If it were so simple, all teams would do it.

plus its more expensive as it will take several elite stars to have a defense like that.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Which team have you been watching? This team is a disaster.

Which is why Dak’s money should have went to the defense.

well, on the surface that may make sense, but history....in 15 years prior to 2020, we netted D. Lawrence as the highest impact defensive player, which isn't saying much. that's 43 draft picks during that period.....unless you think we could have built a defense through FA, which is much more costly and risky because most FAs are either older, injured or problematic, or want to break the bank and really elite ones are usually kept by their old teams....you can not build an elite defense with 40M a year and go with bottom of the pile QB

 

[Slick]

how many 2000 ravens defenses have there been? You are a fool if you thnk you can just spend and draft a 2000 ravens defense. If it were so simple, all teams would do it.

When is the last time Jerry owned this team, the focus was on the defense?

You don’t have to look it up, the answer is never.

If you don’t think this team is in serious trouble you are a fan beyond logical comprehension. Diggs and Micah, were lucky selections.

The head coach needed to get fired the second the play off game ended, and Quinn offered the job. The penalty counts this team has gotten shows a complete lack of discipline and that’s been there for years.
Kellen Moore isn’t special, and proven by lack of interest from other teams.

They need to trade away contract numbers, and draft to a plan, not headlines. Both lines are sad and get manhandled. Start there.

 

[Slick]

plus its more expensive as it will take several elite stars to have a defense like that.

Get rid of the over priced talent on both sides. That’s where you start, then draft wisely.

 

[Vtwin]

well, you had zero credibility to start with. an agenda to drive and based on your recent posts you now are in negative credibility territory.

and I find it funny, you said, they had offer of 33-35M and that was fair market value, and subsequently they agreed to a larger contract averaging 40M....the very definition of agreeing to a much higher contract value and length (6 years).. talking about someone who is arguing against themselves

geez dude. get yourself together.

DONE.

Not quite done yet sunshine.

Check again. He signed a four year deal, not six. Unprecedented.

You'll never be a working dog. Now go lay down and stay off the couch.

Six year deal he says.... oh boy.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Not quite done yet sunshine.

Check again. He signed a four year deal, not six. Unprecedented.

You'll never be a working dog. Now go lay down and stay off the couch.

Six year deal he says.... oh boy.

LOL

the last two years are voidable......its a 6 year contract, with last two years voidable. this allowed Jerry the flexibility he wanted to have in the cap management and gave prescott the 4 year contract he seeked with an out after 4 years.

"....
Two numbers are vital in terms of the years in Prescott’s contract. The headline number is that this is a four-year deal. That is true in terms of how long he is contracted to be playing for the Cowboys. The second number in mention is a six-year contract, with the final two years being void years at the end of the deal.

Adding the two void years allows the Cowboys to spread the signing bonus over six years and reduce his cap number in 2021. If the $66 million signing bonus were over a four-year period, the prorated money would be $16.5 million per year.

However, with the extra two years at the end of the deal, the prorated money should be $11 million per year. Therefore, the two void years should save the Cowboys $5.5 million in each of the deal’s four years. The counter to that is the Cowboys would then have Prescott count $22 million against the cap in 2025, regardless of whether he is on the roster or not......"



you have so much to learn grass hopper. you are a jr Intern in accounts recievable opening envelopes and trying to intrepret a financial statement from a big corporation.... way over your head.

 

[GINeric]

MS is clearly better than Dak.Rams don’t win SB this year w/ Dak at QB.

Yes he does. With that coaching, play calling and personel, he sure would have. Oh im sure it would have also helped his case not quarterbacking the most penalized team in the league as well.

 

[Cboyfan4ever]

Yes he does. With that coaching, play calling and personel, he sure would have. Oh im sure it would have also helped his case not quarterbacking the most penalized team in the league as well.

Wrong!Dak w/ his tunnel vision wouldn’t have been able to find receivers “downfield” the way MS did.When’s the last time Dak came up big in crunch time?Dak’s not going to lead game winning drive 3 straight games including the SB the way MS did.Doesn’t have the vision,accuracy, or arm talent to do so.

 

[Vtwin]

LOL

the last two years are voidable......its a 6 year contract, with last two years voidable. this allowed Jerry the flexibility he wanted to have in the cap management and gave prescott the 4 year contract he seeked with an out after 4 years.

"....
Two numbers are vital in terms of the years in Prescott’s contract. The headline number is that this is a four-year deal. That is true in terms of how long he is contracted to be playing for the Cowboys. The second number in mention is a six-year contract, with the final two years being void years at the end of the deal.

Adding the two void years allows the Cowboys to spread the signing bonus over six years and reduce his cap number in 2021. If the $66 million signing bonus were over a four-year period, the prorated money would be $16.5 million per year.

However, with the extra two years at the end of the deal, the prorated money should be $11 million per year. Therefore, the two void years should save the Cowboys $5.5 million in each of the deal’s four years. The counter to that is the Cowboys would then have Prescott count $22 million against the cap in 2025, regardless of whether he is on the roster or not......"



you have so much to learn grass hopper. you are a jr Intern in accounts recievable opening envelopes and trying to intrepret a financial statement from a big corporation.... way over your head.

LOl

I spent 17 years "cooking the books" for a corporation.

When do Prescott become an UFA under the terms of that contract, oh great one?

So yea.... we get to roll some cap hit forward to soften the blow of the overpaid player who received the entirety of his 160 million dollar four year contract in...... drumroll please........ four years.

Book cooking 101.

I bet the extended warranty salespeople love you.... lol.

What a sucker.

 

[Mobinvans]

Pretty much, ya

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

LOl

I spent 17 years "cooking the books" for a corporation.

When do Prescott become an UFA under the terms of that contract, oh great one?

So yea.... we get to roll some cap hit forward to soften the blow of the overpaid player who received the entirety of his 160 million dollar four year contract in...... drumroll please........ four years.

Book cooking 101.

I bet the extended warranty salespeople love you.... lol.

What a sucker.

if you cooked books, then you migh be a criminal. accountants are supposed to have "honesty, integrity" of the highest degree. so I question you and your skills. I can certainly see you don't have integrity or honesty...you have an agenda to drive

the one thing you would notice if you paid any attention, and I mean any minimal attention is that its a 6 year deal that allows it to spread the signing bonus over 6 years. given last two years are voidable, then after 4 years the dollar amount that gets paid out sums up to 160M.....

if you really were a person who "cooked books", then this shouldn't be very difficult for you to understand. but seemingly you can't wrap your head around it and struggling.

p.s.

did you work for the Mafia? or the cartel?

p.s.
did you send the company youworked for into bankruptcy? LOL

 

[JeffInDC]

So, a franchise that hasn’t gotten past the Divisional Round since the ‘96 Season has been ruined by a QB that just finished his 5th FULL Season is the reason this franchise is ruined…ok. This franchise didn’t win bleep with Romo at the helm either. Why? Because, just like this version of the team, the FO does NOT know what they’re doing. With the Romo years, they had a very good offense with NO REAL $$$ spent on the D. And, of course, it cost them against the better teams. Let’s or even talk about how the kept Garrett WAY LONGER than they should’ve. Again, THIS TEAM HASN’T DONE A DARN THING SIMCE THE ‘96 SEASON!!!!! But, somehow, a then 3 year-old Rayne Dakota Prescott was responsible for the impending downfall of the Cowboys organization…yeah, this fan base does set it self up for national scrutiny.

 

[Doomsday]

Nope, Jerry has ruined this team because he has no clue what it takes to build a winner.

He is awesome at marketing, that is why a team that has been a total failure for 27 years is worth more than any sports franchise on the planet.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Nope, Jerry has ruined this team because he has no clue what it takes to build a winner.

He is awesome at marketing, that is why a team that has been a total failure for 27 years is worth more than any sports franchise on the planet.

but its easier to Blame Dak. he has the largest contract and its easier to hate....

 

[Vtwin]

if you cooked books, then you migh be a criminal. accountants are supposed to have "honesty, integrity" of the highest degree. so I question you and your skills. I can certainly see you don't have integrity or honesty...you have an agenda to drive

the one thing you would notice if you paid any attention, and I mean any minimal attention is that its a 6 year deal that allows it to spread the signing bonus over 6 years. given last two years are voidable, then after 4 years the dollar amount that gets paid out sums up to 160M.....

if you really were a person who "cooked books", then this shouldn't be very difficult for you to understand. but seemingly you can't wrap your head around it and struggling.

p.s.

did you work for the Mafia? or the cartel?

p.s.
did you send the company you worked for into bankruptcy? LOL

Well this explains a lot. You have no clue about how accounting works.

NFL salary cap management could be used as a case study in how to "cook the books" in an above board fashion.

I guarantee your accountant does some book cooking every spring. Well, maybe not because you likely can just file the EZ way and get your refund to pay for the extended warranty on your fifteen year old Ford Escort.

Hell, you probably still owe five k on that Escort which would make you "upside down" on it. You know.... exactly like a team that signs a player to a four year contract, pays the entirety of that contract in those four years but still has two years left before they are clear of the loan from the lender.

It's clear you are not bright enough to understand the nuances of analogies so before you start telling me that the Cowboys didn't have to actually borrow cash to pay the player, get someone to explain it to you.

How's the warranty situation on that Escort? I can set you up with a great deal on an extension. How about a four year 80000 mile extension for only 50 dollars a month for six years?

FYI. I'm tagging you with the nickname, Chubby. Nobody does the twist better since Chubby Checkers.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Well this explains a lot. You have no clue about how accounting works.

NFL salary cap management could be used as a case study in how to "cook the books" in an above board fashion.

I guarantee your accountant does some book cooking every spring. Well, maybe not because you likely can just file the EZ way and get your refund to pay for the extended warranty on your fifteen year old Ford Escort.

Hell, you probably still owe five k on that Escort which would make you "upside down" on it. You know.... exactly like a team that signs a player to a four year contract, pays the entirety of that contract in those four years but still has two years left before they are clear of the loan from the lender.

It's clear you are not bright enough to understand the nuances of analogies so before you start telling me that the Cowboys didn't have to actually borrow cash to pay the player, get someone to explain it to you.

How's the warranty situation on that Escort? I can set you up with a great deal on an extension. How about a four year 80000 mile extension for only 50 dollars a month for six years?

FYI. I'm tagging you with the nickname, Chubby. Nobody does the twist better since Chubby Checkers.

I bet..... no I guarantee the company you worked for went backrupt.....

I wish I owned an escort, my chevy corvair is just fine though. and I owe 8K on that corvair, it was a great deal

you are such and amateur....pull up your pampers first

 

[Dorsett33]

Are you Tad?

You must be Tad.

Reread bro...you'll get it.

 

[GINeric]

Wrong!Dak w/ his tunnel vision wouldn’t have been able to find receivers “downfield” the way MS did.When’s the last time Dak came up big in crunch time?Dak’s not going to lead game winning drive 3 straight games including the SB the way MS did.Doesn’t have the vision,accuracy, or arm talent to do so.

Thats your opinion, cool. Thats where we have to agree to disagree. Dak has done the opposite of most of the things you've stated. Dak would have had the same success Stafford had in THAT offense with THOSE coaches and play callers supported by THAT defense.

There are plenty of HOF coaches, players, and GMs that has always had Dak ranked higher than Stafford. My eyes see the same thing their eyes have seen for the last few years. Men lie, women lie, numbers don't.