Dak has ruined this team

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i love me some dak. i don't care if we will never be able to surround him with the best team in the history of the NFL to win a few playoff games. he's a good guy. it's not his fault he doesn't have enough skill to ever win more than one playoff game. i hope we keep him for years. 10 years would be great, it would bring back good memories of the garrett years. that was a fun time. i miss me some garrett.
 

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Think about all that we’ve given up for this teams buy in with him

-cap hell for the next decade

-losing out on good players and free agents

-he’s about to get his second coach fired next year

-the 2016 decision to go with him over Romo leading to a first round exit

-squandering the best cowboys team in 20 years with another first round exit due to poor qb play

-cutting or trading players who don’t get along with Dak or we just can’t simply afford them anymore


Think about the following qb option we had the last 2 years

1. Tom Brady
2. Aaron Rodgers
3. Russell Wilson
4. Dashaun Watson
5. Matt Stafford


And Dak makes more money than all of them. I know this isn’t all predicated on Dak but it’s kind of hard not to feel that we’ve been cheated out of something since we signed him to this ridiculous deal
You should have 100K likes for this awesome post!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So far this IS top post in 2022. THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!
 

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The Rams beat Dallas 30-22 in the playoffs and it was a ugly game for Dak. The Rams stopped the run and dared Dak to beat them. Of course he couldn’t. Have you ever used Google? Other teams have followed the same scheme and Dak is not capable of proving them wrong. You must be easily confused. Great players play their best football in pressure situations like the playoffs. Great QBs steps you their game and makes everyone around them better. In Dak’s case, he has to have a top five offensive line, the highest paid RB in the league and one of the best group of WRs for him to win. Even with all of that, he still can’t beat good teams.
1. Dak's rookie year was 2016. You specifically stated that teams had figured him out since his rookie year against the Rams, in which he didn't play the Rams.
2. Dak outplayed Goff in that game your are referring to, which happened in the 2018 season, in January of 2019. Dak had a 99 rating and Goff's was 82. Goff won because his team almost had 300 yards rushing and held the ball for 36 minutes. In this game, despite all of that, Dak brought us to within 1 score and a 2 pt conversion of tying it with 2:11 to play. That was 3 time outs and the 2 minute warning to get a stop and give the offense back the ball. Surprise...the defense couldn't stop them and they never got the ball back again. DAK's FAULT.
3. Dak won the previous week against the Seahawks where he elevated his game, breaking multiple tackles, to get a key first down to seal the win.

You have no idea what you are talking about. None.
 

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The Rams beat Dallas 30-22 in the playoffs and it was a ugly game for Dak. The Rams stopped the run and dared Dak to beat them. Of course he couldn’t. Have you ever used Google? Other teams have followed the same scheme and Dak is not capable of proving them wrong. You must be easily confused. Great players play their best football in pressure situations like the playoffs. Great QBs steps you their game and makes everyone around them better. In Dak’s case, he has to have a top five offensive line, the highest paid RB in the league and one of the best group of WRs for him to win. Even with all of that, he still can’t beat good teams.
Dude, when you have the TEN TOEMEDIOCRE SLOTH formally known as Dak Prescot as your team leader then your team is in a world of s@#$t/hurt! The SLOTH is too slow reading defenses and finding the WIDE-OPEN rec or TE. The SLOTH has single handily destroyed the run game with his unique style and his inability to throw anything decent down field. Defenses are leaving receivers unguarded and loading the box with close to eleven players, that's right I said ELEVEN PLAYERS. Now please tell me how five offensive linemen are suppose to block eleven players and have a successful run game???????? That's right, you can't have a run game with the SLOTH standing in the pocket, squeezing the air out of the ball counting the minutes he expects his O-line to protect him, the SLOTH is a f@#$%^king joke and even his OWN brother knows this or does he???????? The SLOTH and his brother TADPOLE need to move on........
 

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We have all this cap space now. What are we doing with it? Signing nobody of import. Same thing when Dak was on an ultra cheap contract. We had a HUGE window there. One season we signed like 8 or 9 guys and maybe Aldon Smith was the only one that stayed on the team and did something? And I think that was before we resigned Cooper to that huge contract. We wasted our hugest window of opportunity being cheap and we're still doing it.
Since Cooper has be traded, many fans turned on him and believe the rumors coming from the Cowboys. People tend to forget just how bad Dak was playing until Cooper arrived. One of the only big games that the Cowboys have won with Dak at QB was against the Eagles when Cooper had a big game and caught a deflected bad pass that bounced out of the DB’s hands and Cooper caught it and scored . Cooper has bailed Dak out of some really bad passes and the credit was given to Dak. It’s going to be fun watching Dak return to playing like he played before Cooper came to Dallas.
 

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Dak will not get better . He is where he is , a mediocre , erratic passer , with no ability to read defenses or coverages . This has killed the run game and wasted the receiver talent we have and had. He is fixing to get another coach fired . He will continue to check down and throw miss open receivers. But he has the backing of the stubborn owner who refuses to let his hand picked stars go . Same as with zeke .
Massive losses at home to beatable teams are plenty as proof this QB is the biggest waste of a QB the cowboys ever invested in .

recent home losses against non super bowl teams :

Green Bay
Vikings
Tennessee
Buffalo
Cleveland
Arizona
Denver
Raiders
San fransisco
 

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1. Dak's rookie year was 2016. You specifically stated that teams had figured him out since his rookie year against the Rams, in which he didn't play the Rams.
2. Dak outplayed Goff in that game your are referring to, which happened in the 2018 season, in January of 2019. Dak had a 99 rating and Goff's was 82. Goff won because his team almost had 300 yards rushing and held the ball for 36 minutes. In this game, despite all of that, Dak brought us to within 1 score and a 2 pt conversion of tying it with 2:11 to play. That was 3 time outs and the 2 minute warning to get a stop and give the offense back the ball. Surprise...the defense couldn't stop them and they never got the ball back again. DAK's FAULT.
3. Dak won the previous week against the Seahawks where he elevated his game, breaking multiple tackles, to get a key first down to seal the win.

You have no idea what you are talking about. None.
A great QB like Dak could only score 22 points and it took a late score to make the game look close. When the Rams, and now other teams, figured out that forcing Dak to beat them is a winning strategy , it has stopped Dak from winning big games. The Saints beat the Cowboys and Dak with a score of 12-10. 10 points, 10 whole points. This is just one example out of many that shows how teams try to force Dak to beat them and he fails every time. It is even more pathetic that Dak gets credit for those attempted comebacks when the reality is that it’s garbage time and the opposing teams are playing prevent defense which allows time to run out. Those are not comebacks. They always fall short because the Cowboys are so far behind. Just stop with the excuses for him. This last season opened a lot of eyes of fans that now sees what he really is.
 

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A great QB like Dak could only score 22 points and it took a late score to make the game look close. When the Rams, and now other teams, figured out that forcing Dak to beat them is a winning strategy , it has stopped Dak from winning big games. The Saints beat the Cowboys and Dak with a score of 12-10. 10 points, 10 whole points. This is just one example out of many that shows how teams try to force Dak to beat them and he fails every time. It is even more pathetic that Dak gets credit for those attempted comebacks when the reality is that it’s garbage time and the opposing teams are playing prevent defense which allows time to run out. Those are not comebacks. They always fall short because the Cowboys are so far behind. Just stop with the excuses for him. This last season opened a lot of eyes of fans that now sees what he really is.
Do me a favor...what is the winning percentage of a team that gave up 250 or more yards rushing. Probably near 0.

Until you understand that simple fact, there is no use continuing this conversation.
 

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A great QB like Dak could only score 22 points and it took a late score to make the game look close. When the Rams, and now other teams, figured out that forcing Dak to beat them is a winning strategy , it has stopped Dak from winning big games. The Saints beat the Cowboys and Dak with a score of 12-10. 10 points, 10 whole points. This is just one example out of many that shows how teams try to force Dak to beat them and he fails every time. It is even more pathetic that Dak gets credit for those attempted comebacks when the reality is that it’s garbage time and the opposing teams are playing prevent defense which allows time to run out. Those are not comebacks. They always fall short because the Cowboys are so far behind. Just stop with the excuses for him. This last season opened a lot of eyes of fans that now sees what he really is.
You nailed it . Many defenses are giddy playing Dak . So predictable and beatable .
 

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Dak will not get better . He is where he is , a mediocre , erratic passer , with no ability to read defenses or coverages . This has killed the run game and wasted the receiver talent we have and had. He is fixing to get another coach fired . He will continue to check down and throw miss open receivers. But he has the backing of the stubborn owner who refuses to let his hand picked stars go . Same as with zeke .
Massive losses at home to beatable teams are plenty as proof this QB is the biggest waste of a QB the cowboys ever invested in .

recent home losses against non super bowl teams :

Green Bay
Vikings
Tennessee
Buffalo
Cleveland
Arizona
Denver
Raiders
San fransisco
Oh wow! Those games bring back the memories of those ignorant fools calling Josh Allen trash. And I think it was the following week the same comments about Trubisky but Dak looked terrible against the Bills and Bears falling way behind early as usual.
 

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A great QB like Dak could only score 22 points and it took a late score to make the game look close. When the Rams, and now other teams, figured out that forcing Dak to beat them is a winning strategy , it has stopped Dak from winning big games. The Saints beat the Cowboys and Dak with a score of 12-10. 10 points, 10 whole points. This is just one example out of many that shows how teams try to force Dak to beat them and he fails every time. It is even more pathetic that Dak gets credit for those attempted comebacks when the reality is that it’s garbage time and the opposing teams are playing prevent defense which allows time to run out. Those are not comebacks. They always fall short because the Cowboys are so far behind. Just stop with the excuses for him. This last season opened a lot of eyes of fans that now sees what he really is.
You nailed it! Problem with these people is they see 50 point games against crappy teams and think this offense is a top scoring offense. Their two ignorant to realize there is problem when they struggle against the better teams.
 

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Oh wow! Those games bring back the memories of those ignorant fools calling Josh Allen trash. And I think it was the following week the same comments about Trubisky but Dak looked terrible against the Bills and Bears falling way behind early as usual.
Indeed . The usual Dak trend , a terrible start , unable to execute plays or read defenses , this makes the defenses stack the box to kill the run game , the cowboys fall behind , then in desperation start throwing to catch up , defenses play prevent defense , Dak makes some desperation throws , empty calorie late game yards , cowboys end up losing anyway .Dak has some yards to show , in a losing effort . We have seen this movie before . Actually , the 49ers last game was another reminder .
 
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Do me a favor...what is the winning percentage of a team that gave up 250 or more yards rushing. Probably near 0.

Until you understand that simple fact, there is no use continuing this conversation.
Hmm. Funny thing is...SOME people can say our defense needs some work....while STILL being able to assess Dak. That old walk AND chew gum at the same time thing.

Some people can't do that. It's okay.
 

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You act like the loons that pick talent and spend for this team. 25 years later, you are concerned about remedial math. Teams that spend money and win SBs can justify their spending, I.e your Rams example. Teams that can’t justify spending because they are unsuccessful, I.e. Cowboys, have advanced mathematicians, like you, to explain away the failure. You’re obsessed with explaining cap space. I’m concerned about the lack of success of the Cowboys due to wasteful and ineffective spending…. The POINT of my post. $40 million to an average QB, with similar spending on ineffective talent, equals failure. You might need more than a 5th grade math book to help you see my point.
OMG, I have never seen anyone as confused as you on this board. you are all over the place and haven't followed one line of logic.

I quote, you said

"40 million with 200 available to an average player. That sums up our chances here."

which I proceeded to correct you. there is no denying what you said is totally wrong from every angle. what I responded was absolutely correct, no denying that.

subsequently you asked for results. my answer was the the way you calculate the impact to the cap, vs. results are separate concepts. but that's way above your level of understanding.

now, you agree with me. that teams spend and manage cap and win superbowls. your frustration is not with the dollars handed out and cap management, its with talent evaluation and how the team is constructed. you tried to attack and vent, but used an absolute meaningless logic.

and 40M is not what's paid to Dak on the cap. its the talent evaluation part that sucks. and I am in total agreement with you on that. I don't mind handing out 40M. it can be easily managed on the cap. but the way this team is constructed is like a fantasy football team.

you are one very frustrated person. almost foaming at the mouth with anger. I get it. I am also mad at the management of the Cowboys as they have managed to screw everything up, royally.
 

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Since Cooper has be traded, many fans turned on him and believe the rumors coming from the Cowboys. People tend to forget just how bad Dak was playing until Cooper arrived. One of the only big games that the Cowboys have won with Dak at QB was against the Eagles when Cooper had a big game and caught a deflected bad pass that bounced out of the DB’s hands and Cooper caught it and scored . Cooper has bailed Dak out of some really bad passes and the credit was given to Dak. It’s going to be fun watching Dak return to playing like he played before Cooper came to Dallas.
yet another "fan" who thinks it will be fun to watch the team fail if it does. Proving more and more that some of the fans of this team care more about being right than the teams success. Its mind boggling.
 

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The Rams beat Dallas 30-22 in the playoffs and it was a ugly game for Dak. The Rams stopped the run and dared Dak to beat them. Of course he couldn’t. Have you ever used Google? Other teams have followed the same scheme and Dak is not capable of proving them wrong. You must be easily confused. Great players play their best football in pressure situations like the playoffs. Great QBs steps you their game and makes everyone around them better. In Dak’s case, he has to have a top five offensive line, the highest paid RB in the league and one of the best group of WRs for him to win. Even with all of that, he still can’t beat good teams.
actually, the rams ran on the cowboys at will to the tune of 252 yards. controlled the clock and the ball with their running and then forced cowboys into a passing game, in which case we played right into their hands. despite all of that, 4th quarter, the score was within 8 points with half the quarter to go. the defense had a chance to make a stop, twice and they failed both times. with 2:00 minutes to go, they ran the ball for 25 yards, including an 11 yard run to Goff of all people. start of 4th quarter, the defense gave up an 8 minute drive and a score.....giving up 40 yards.....

that was a defensive collapse if we had to pick one area that screwed up.
 

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Do me a favor...what is the winning percentage of a team that gave up 250 or more yards rushing. Probably near 0.

Until you understand that simple fact, there is no use continuing this conversation.
You are correct in that.But in those games where we were gashed by the run,constant 3 and outs by Dak and the O certainly don’t help.Once in a while you have to make a play, even if things aren’t perfect to break that momentum.Dak doesn’t seem to be able to do so until it’s too late and garbage time.
 
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