Why are so many Cowboys fans obsessed with WR?

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2nd round Tristan Hill (DK Metcalf, Aj Brown, Deebo Samuels)
2nd round Connor Willams (Dj Chark, Courtland Sutton)

All your overhyped trench guys are the problem!
 

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What happens in the trenches when a proper QB snaps the ball in the NFL??

Nothing..... snap... 1 second... PASS!

Absolutely nothing happened in the trenches! oooooffffff
 

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And the bigger reality is, if we take another WR in the first, we are dumber 'n a pillbug.
Would not be very popular, especially considering this is a rather deep draft at WR.
 

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For me, I don't care about which position we take in the first round, even if it's WR, if the talent level is there to warrant the pick.
Thats fine if your in a position to be able to draft that way, draft BPA.
Not sure that theory necessarily applies to this Cowboys FO thinking in this draft, we will see.
 

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What we really need is oline in round one. Our oline is losing a lot of it's power between aging and departures. Plus we had Connor Williams who was a penalty machine. It's time to face the fact that we need to rebuild the Great Wall of Dallas.
 

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NFL top 23 players. Try to get one of them.

1 Kyle Hamilton S
2 Aidan Hutchinson Edge
3 Evan Neal OT
4 Ickey Ekwonu OT
5 Kayvon Thibodeaux Edge
6 Ahmad Gardner CB
7 Tyler Linderbaum OC
8 Trent McDuffie CB
9 Derek Stingley CB
10 Garrett Wilson WR
11 Jordan Davis NT
12 Treylon Burks WR
13 Jermaine Johnson Edge
14 Jameson Williams WR
15 Travon Walker Edge
16 Chris Olave WR
17 Kenyon Green OG
18 Charles Cross OT
19 Malik Willis QB
20 Trevor Penning OT
21 Kenny Pickett QB
22 Nakobe Dean LE
23 George Karlaftis Edge
 

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- Who was the MVP of the super bowl ?
- Did you see Cincy WRs taking Jalen shutdown Ramsey to school ?
- Is this not a pass happy trend league ?
- is it more about the RB .. or the QB in todays game ? o_O

As is the case nearly always, it's about balance. Can't win SBs with just one great wr or one great rb or one great qb, despite the Cooper Kupps of the league, if you don't have at least some semblance of a running game, or some semblance of a defense, then it's tough to win SBs....
 

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As is the case nearly always, it's about balance. Can't win SBs with just one great wr or one great rb or one great qb, despite the Cooper Kupps of the league, if you don't have at least some semblance of a running game, or some semblance of a defense, then it's tough to win SBs....

sure you aim to have balance, ..you aim to keep the RBs involved, you want the defense to still be preoccupied with the threat of a run game... i can barely recall the last time a RB was MVP of the SB.
(terrell davis in late 90's SB ?)

If anything else, as always the case, it's been more about the defense at SB time, at playoff time, .when all the stakes are on the line ...

- Rams made the deciding stop- sack (ala Donald) vs Cincy last drive to secure the SB

- Eagles made the sack fumble vs Brady- Pats that turned the game in their favor and knocked down the hail murray to secure the SB

- Bucs domination of Mahomes TD-less SB feat , etc ,etc,
 

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It's amazing to see how many people are in support of drafting a WR in the first round or even the first 3 rounds. It seems like this is the case almost every year no matter what. This is also in spite of the fact that our two best teams since the 90's were heavy running teams (2014 and 2016). Furthermore, Dak is an average QB so the best thing you can do for him is run the ball more.

Like most years, WR is the least of our worries. We just drafted one in the first round and signed another to a big contract. Washington will be a fine third receiver. We have a million other needs so drafting a WR before round 5 would be incredibly stupid. Unfortunately our front office is also obsessed with WR's so lets hope that none fall to them.


Running the ball is 90s football. Especially when you have the most overrated player in the league with a cap hit of 18 million.
 

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Because weaknesses at positions cause you to not win playoff games.

BPA gets you Taco and Jaylon.
That’s totally nuts
Taco wasn’t close to BPA
He was drafted to fill a need and had nothing at all to do with his talent compared to other guys at different positions
Jaylon couldn’t play football when he was drafted so he couldn’t be BPA
Jaylon was drafted because Jerry thought he was smarter than anyone else
Drafting for need is what got you taco, Ecuban and others
When you draft the best player your odds f getting a good player is so much higher and it’s been proven over and over
I don’t know where you got the ideal taco was higher on any board in the nfl
 

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It's amazing to see how many people are in support of drafting a WR in the first round or even the first 3 rounds. It seems like this is the case almost every year no matter what. This is also in spite of the fact that our two best teams since the 90's were heavy running teams (2014 and 2016). Furthermore, Dak is an average QB so the best thing you can do for him is run the ball more.

Like most years, WR is the least of our worries. We just drafted one in the first round and signed another to a big contract. Washington will be a fine third receiver. We have a million other needs so drafting a WR before round 5 would be incredibly stupid. Unfortunately our front office is also obsessed with WR's so lets hope that none fall to them.
Pretty sure a vast majority of fans are against a WR in round 1
 

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It's amazing to see how many people are in support of drafting a WR in the first round or even the first 3 rounds. It seems like this is the case almost every year no matter what. This is also in spite of the fact that our two best teams since the 90's were heavy running teams (2014 and 2016). Furthermore, Dak is an average QB so the best thing you can do for him is run the ball more.

Like most years, WR is the least of our worries. We just drafted one in the first round and signed another to a big contract. Washington will be a fine third receiver. We have a million other needs so drafting a WR before round 5 would be incredibly stupid. Unfortunately our front office is also obsessed with WR's so lets hope that none fall to them.

Unfortunately, Michael Irvin has done a disservice to this team. His passionate and never-say-die attitude has resulted in a never-ending quest by Jerry to find the next 88.

Furthermore, aerial offenses sell tickets. So you need wide receivers for an aerial offensive display. Jerry loves his explosive offense because it brings butts to stadium seats.

Combine the two above factors, and it may explain our obsession over wide receivers. I hope we don't take one, at the earliest, the third. Maybe George Pickens, Justyn Ross, George Metchie or Jameson Williams drop low enough for us to snag them.

But my focus for the first three rounds is to strengthen the offensive and defensive lines, where post-season battles are won.
 

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Thats fine if your in a position to be able to draft that way, draft BPA.
Not sure that theory necessarily applies to this Cowboys FO thinking in this draft, we will see.
No team drafts BPA. The only exception is if a player is there that is obviously the most talented, and that very very seldom happens. Mostly, when a team drafts, there are 10-30 players w/ close to the same grade/potential.

BPA is reserved for teams who are already super bowl contenders, or for really badly run teams where it doesn't matter who you take anyway.
 

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That’s totally nuts
Taco wasn’t close to BPA
He was drafted to fill a need and had nothing at all to do with his talent compared to other guys at different positions
Jaylon couldn’t play football when he was drafted so he couldn’t be BPA
Jaylon was drafted because Jerry thought he was smarter than anyone else
Drafting for need is what got you taco, Ecuban and others
When you draft the best player your odds f getting a good player is so much higher and it’s been proven over and over
I don’t know where you got the ideal taco was higher on any board in the nfl
Everywhere. Taco was considered top 10-20ish. You're claiming he wasn't purely to support your agenda. TJ Watt was rated lower by the majority.

BPA gets you MO, Randy Gregory, players such as that.

Using only one strategy to draft is about the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard concerning the NFL. Drafting strictly for need is also dumb.
 

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Everywhere. Taco was considered top 10-20ish. You're claiming he wasn't purely to support your agenda. TJ Watt was rated lower by the majority.

BPA gets you MO, Randy Gregory, players such as that.

Using only one strategy to draft is about the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard concerning the NFL. Drafting strictly for need is also dumb.
Using need to draft is a proven failure
I don’t remember many people having taco rated higher than watt either. Some felt he was only a 3/4 guy though
 

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Taco wasn’t close to BPA

Walter Football had Taco ranked as the no. 2 DE, just behind Myles Garrett.
Sporting News had him at no. 6 DE.
Sb Nation had him at no. 6 DE.
PFF had him no. 28 overall.

Not BPA, but he was "close". Mainly because of potential, most sites had him as being raw as an NFL DE, but his ceiling was very high.

Not that I agreed with his selection, but it's not like he was considered a mediocre player...
 
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