Dak vs Jimmy G

[conner01]

There is not an NFL GM in the entire league who would take jimmy g over Dak
None
And the team that has him wants to replace him

 

[Big D]

and dak has won how many playoff games? refresh my memory.

well, I just looked up the active QB's post-season win/loss record.

Jimmy G ranked number 5
Dak the legend stats boy ranked 21

Baker Mayfield is ahead of the baby dak.
Blake Bortes too

Dak better be glad Tim Tebow isn't still active because his pct is better too.

lmao.

So now you like stats?

 

[KJJ]

Jimmy G was also a backup for like 3 years and injured for another too. “QB who played way more games put up more TD’s” isn’t a big feather in Dak’s hat

Because Andy Dalton has way more TD passes than Dak, does that mean in your mind he’s a way better QB?

Jimmy G played every game in 2019 and put up 27 TDs and under 4000 yards. Last season he played 15 games and only had 20 TD passes. If he had the same number of career starts as Dak he wouldn’t have the numbers because he’s not a productive QB. He’s a bus driver! He can do that well with a solid team that includes a stout defense. He only had three games last season where he attempted 40+ passes and he lost two of those games. You have to keep his passing attempts down or he’ll start coughing the ball up.

 

[KJJ]

His O line didn't allow 5 sacks, 14 hits, a high rate of pressure & a dozen penalties?

That’s because he had a better team around him.

 

[KJJ]

He doesn't crumble under pressure.

You must have forgot his performance in the Super Bowl a couple of years ago and his performance against the Rams in the NFC title game last season.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

Jimmy G played every game in 2019 and put up 27 TDs and under 4000 yards. Last season he played 15 games and only had 20 TD passes. If he had the same number of career starts as Dak he wouldn’t have the numbers because he’s not a productive QB. He’s a bus driver! He can do that well with a solid team that includes a stout defense. He only had three games last season where he attempted 40+ passes and he lost two of those games. You have to keep his passing attempts down or he’ll start coughing the ball up.

He also has a higher accuracy percentage and way higher yards per attempt. One of the NFL best deep ball accuracy QBs in NFL history. He doesn’t not attempt a lot of passes because they do not ask him to. But his per-pass metrics are insane.

 

[Captain-Crash]

few games and a better post-season record, wow just wow, and "fans" think dak is better. lmao..

 

[KJJ]

He also has a higher accuracy percentage and way higher yards per attempt. One of the NFL best deep ball accuracy QBs in NFL history. He doesn’t not attempt a lot of passes because they do not ask him to. But his per-pass metrics are insane.

He doesn’t attempt a lot of passes because he doesn’t have to with the team he has around him. He’s supported by a terrific defense. The 49ers don’t want him to attempt a lot of passes because they know his limitations. The bottom line is if he was what some of you act like he is San Francisco wouldn’t have traded the farm to move up in the top 5 for Trey Lance. Jimmy G is not a dynamic player he’s a bus driver who can manage games.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

He doesn’t attempt a lot of passes because he doesn’t have to with the team he has around him. He’s supported by a terrific defense. The 49ers don’t want him to attempt a lot of passes because they know his limitations. The bottom line is if he was what some of you act like he is San Francisco wouldn’t have traded the farm to move up in the top 5 for Trey Lance. Jimmy G is not a dynamic player he’s a bus driver!

The argument isn’t that Jimmy is dynamic. It’s whether Dak is worth much more than him

 

[KJJ]

The argument isn’t that Jimmy is dynamic. It’s whether Dak is worth much more than him

Dak’s production has made him worth more. The Cowboys wouldn’t win as many games if Dak wasn’t productive. Derek Carr just signed a big extension despite not having a playoff win because he’s productive. QBs that can put up numbers are going to make big money. Cleveland has moved on from Baker Mayfield because he’s not productive. The Rams gave up a lot for Matt Stafford because he’s productive.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

Dak’s production has made him worth more. The Cowboys wouldn’t win as many games if Dak wasn’t productive. Derek Carr just signed a big extension despite not having a playoff win because he’s productive. QBs that can put up numbers are going to make big money. Cleveland has moved on from Baker Mayfield because he’s not productive. The Rams gave up a lot for Matt Stafford because he’s productive.

Productive in that system. You said it yourself that SF is never going to ask their QB to throw much. Put Dak in SF where he throws 20TDs all year, is he winning 4 playoff games in 2 years? Is he beating Aaron twice in the playoffs?

 

[KJJ]

Productive in that system. You said it yourself that SF is never going to ask their QB to throw much. Put Dak in SF where he throws 20TDs all year, is he winning 4 playoff games in 2 years? Is he beating Aaron twice in the playoffs?

San Francisco doesn’t ask their QB to throw much because they don’t have to throw much with their defense and physicality. All Russell Wilson had to do in Seattle is manage games when he was going to Super Bowls because of his great defense. Dak wouldn’t have to do near as much in San Francisco with the team they have but they’re not satisfied with a game manager, they want a dynamic QB which is why they traded up for Trey Lance. They’re never going to win a championship with Jimmy G because he’ll fold when it’s all on the line against a better QB. Do you honestly believe Jimmy G would have more success than Dak with our current Cowboys team? No way would he be able to manage games with under 40 passing attempts with the team we have. Last season he had 12 INTs and 8 fumbles. He wouldn’t survive behind our OL that has no running game and issues with pass protection. Would you rather have Jimmy G than Dak?

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

San Francisco doesn’t ask their QB to throw much because they don’t have to throw much with their defense and physicality. All Russell Wilson had to do in Seattle is manage games when he was going to Super Bowls because of his great defense. Dak wouldn’t have to do near as much in San Francisco with the team they have but they’re not satisfied with a game manager, they want a dynamic QB which is why they traded up for Trey Lance. They’re never going to win a championship with Jimmy G because he’ll fold when it’s all on the line against a better QB. Do you honestly believe Jimmy G would have more success than Dak with our current Cowboys team? No way would he be able to manage games with under 40 passing attempts with the team we have. Last season he had 12 INTs and 8 fumbles. He wouldn’t survive behind our OL that has no running game and issues with pass protection. Would you rather have Jimmy G than Dak?

What kind of question is that? At worst, he would tie Dak’s success with zero. Yes, I believe Jimmy could win the NFC East in its current iteration, Dak’s greatest professional accomplishment up to this point.

And why would Jimmy be throwing under 40 times in Dallas? You open with saying he throws so few passes because SF doesn’t ask their QB to throw, and then you say Dallas won’t let him throw either? Perhaps you’re implying he wouldn’t be getting into the deficits Dak does that require 40+ throws to get back into the game?

Jimmy had 8 fumbles? Dak had 14 fumbles, led all of planet earth. That may be one Prescott accomplishment Jimmy wouldn’t be able to match.

 

[KJJ]

What kind of question is that? At worst, he would tie Dak’s success with zero. Yes, I believe Jimmy could win the NFC East in its current iteration, Dak’s greatest professional accomplishment up to this point.

And why would Jimmy be throwing under 40 times in Dallas? You open with saying he throws so few passes because SF doesn’t ask their QB to throw, and then you say Dallas won’t let him throw either? Why? Jimmy had 8 fumbles? Dak had 14 fumbles, led all of planet earth.

Jimmy G has never attempted more than 476 passes in a season. Dak has pushed 600 passing attempts twice in his career because the Cowboys depend on him to win games. Jimmy G would have double the fumbles and INTs if he had to throw as much as Dak. Dak has had games with over 60 passing attempts. With the loss of two or top four receivers and the holes we have on the OL and not being supported by a great defense Jimmy G would have no chance with this team. Not wasting anymore time with this.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

Jimmy G has never attempted more than 476 passes in a season. Dak has pushed 600 passing attempts twice in his career because the Cowboys depend on him to win games. Jimmy G would have double the fumbles and INTs if he had to throw as much as Dak. Dak has had games with over 60 passing attempts. With the loss of two or top four receivers and the holes we have on the OL and not being supported by a great defense Jimmy G would have no chance with this team. Not wasting anymore time with this.

The 49er’s offense doesn’t directly translate to the Cowboys offense. Asking a guy to throw twice as much in one won’t perfectly reflect his statistics in another. For all we know, Jimmy G is better suited in Dallas’s offense than SF’s. He knows how to find his star receivers far better than Dak ever has.

What we do know about Jimmy G is he will likely retire as the most accurate QB who ever lived, and is currently second all time in Net Yards Per Attempt. Going to a team that actually throws the ball in the red zone with those stats will make his TD % balloon. SF did it less than 30 teams last year, that’s why his stat is low. Dallas was top 10 in red zone pass attempt %. Give him opportunities he doesn’t see in SF and things will change.

How many TDs would Dak throw if they had to all be 30+ yards? 15? Less?

 

[KJJ]

The 49er’s offense doesn’t directly translate to the Cowboys offense. Asking a guy to throw twice as much in one won’t perfectly reflect his statistics in another. For all we know, Jimmy G is better suited in Dallas’s offense than SF’s. He knows how to find his star receivers far better than Dak ever has.

What we do know about Jimmy G is he will likely retire as the most accurate QB who ever lived, and is currently second all time in Net Yards Per Attempt. Going to a team that actually throws the ball in the red zone with those stats will make his TD % balloon. SF did it less than 30 teams last year, that’s why his stat is low. Dallas was top 10 in red zone pass attempt %. Give him opportunities he doesn’t see in SF and things will change.

How many TDs would Dak throw if they had to all be 30+ yards? 15? Less?

Just answer the question would you rather have Jimmy G or Dak?

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

Just answer the question would you rather have Jimmy G or Dak? Do you honestly believe Jimmy G will give the Cowboys a better chance of getting over the hump than Dak?

This started with someone saying Dak was outright better, which is what I was contesting.

We’ve seen Dak come up disappointingly short against playoff teams year in and year out, we’ve seen him take the #1 offense in the nfl to the playoffs and score 7 total points in 3 quarters against a 7 loss wild card team while at home.

Jimmy may not be a lot better, but there’s a possibility he can overcome whatever these ceilings Dak keeps hitting are. Jimmy G was a sub-in in NE, and then got traded to one of the worst franchises in the NFL. He is currently 33-14 as a starter with 2 consecutive NFCCG-or-better finishes in his last 2 healthy seasons. If just any QB with a strong roster can stroll to an NFCCG, then why don’t they? Mahomes, Rodgers, Garropolo: QBs to make multiple championship games since 2019. This isn’t an accident, the dude knows how to win tough football games.

 

[Typhus]

That's too bad, you must really enjoy not getting anywhere in big games or in the playoffs.

If stats are your thing, then go with Dak. I wouldn't go that route if I was interested in winning championships, though.

Your not getting any further with JG, so it was too tight of a comparison to begin with.
Either on this current team would fail.

 

[KJJ]

This started with someone saying Dak was outright better, which is what I was contesting.

We’ve seen Dak come up disappointingly short against playoff teams year in and year out, we’ve seen him take the #1 offense in the nfl to the playoffs and score 7 total points in 3 quarters against a 7 loss wild card team while at home.

Jimmy may not be a lot better, but there’s a possibility he can overcome whatever these ceilings Dak keeps hitting are. Jimmy G was a sub-in in NE, and then got traded to one of the worst franchises in the NFL. He is currently 33-14 as a starter with 2 consecutive NFCCG-or-better finishes in his last 2 healthy seasons. If just any QB with a strong roster can stroll to an NFCCG, then why don’t they? This isn’t an accident, the dude knows how to win tough football games.

I asked you a direct question and you come back with this. (sigh) We don’t agree and we’ll just leave it at that.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

This started with someone saying Dak was outright better, which is what I was contesting.

We’ve seen Dak come up disappointingly short against playoff teams year in and year out, we’ve seen him take the #1 offense in the nfl to the playoffs and score 7 total points in 3 quarters against a 7 loss wild card team while at home.

Jimmy may not be a lot better, but there’s a possibility he can overcome whatever these ceilings Dak keeps hitting are. Jimmy G was a sub-in in NE, and then got traded to one of the worst franchises in the NFL. He is currently 33-14 as a starter with 2 consecutive NFCCG-or-better finishes in his last 2 healthy seasons. If just any QB with a strong roster can stroll to an NFCCG, then why don’t they? Mahomes, Rodgers, Garropolo: QBs to make multiple championship games since 2019. This isn’t an accident, the dude knows how to win tough football games.

So you believe Jimmy is the reason the 49ers are 33-14? Why do you think they spent a top 3 pick on quarterback lol?