Twitter: Top 10 QBs According To Players, Coaches, and Execs

MountaineerCowboy

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Interesting. I didnt know that. Thanks for the info.

Like Ive said before. Dak needs to improve. Especially with his consistency. However. You cant say "Dak needs to win these games" when you and me both know winning and losing is a team game.

I would like to see how the defense played in the games the Cowboys didnt run for 100.
Well, look at our loses. Because we lost every single game we didn't rush for 100 yards in except the Vikings game.

Tampa - 60 rush yards - L
Vikings - 78 rush yards (Cooper Rush) - W
Broncos - 78 rush yards - L
Chiefs - 82 rush yards - L
Raiders - 64 rush yards - L
Cardinals - 45 rush yards - L
Niners - 77 rush yards - L
 

phildadon86

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Well, look at our loses. Because we lost every single game we didn't rush for 100 yards in except the Vikings game.

Tampa - 60 rush yards - L
Vikings - 78 rush yards (Cooper Rush) - W
Broncos - 78 rush yards - L
Chiefs - 82 rush yards - L
Raiders - 64 rush yards - L
Cardinals - 45 rush yards - L
Niners - 77 rush yards - L
Again. Are those losses Dak's fault or a team loss?
 

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”I almost made the playoffs” counts as playoff success now?
It's called my HC put a few games in the loss column based on pure stupidity. Read it however you want.
 

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Stafford was actually ranked in the exact same spot on this list last year.

That I did not realise. He's an excellent QB. Don't get me wrong. I just thing, if Dak is in his situation in LA, then Dak probably would have similar success. Additionally, he came off of a very serious injury and, for his first year back from it and next to no TC, I thought he had a nice season. We didn't go as far as we wanted, but it was a good season for a QB that was recovering from a serious injury and injured his leg halfway through the season. I think that, as long as he stays healthy this season, we should see Dak climb that list.
 

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Double standards are fun.

Don’t complain that “Dak has to win big games!” and then not apply that same standard to a kid who’s never been to the playoffs.
:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

Herbert's talent is significantly better than Dak's. He's bigger, stronger, faster, more mobile, better arm, etc. There's the separation between the two. You don't have to worry about playoff success here because, frankly, Dak hasn't had a ton of success himself in the postseason. So in that case, just look at talent. It's not really that hard to see the difference.

Are you arguing here that Herbert isn't better than Dak?
 

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He's had two consecutive years of 100+ QB ratings the last two seasons on two mediocre to bad Seattle teams.

You guys are acting like he played like Ben DiNucci out there the last two years.
68.8 4,449 37 10 104.2
64.8 3,113 25 6 103.1

I guess youre right i just dont see russ cooking like he used to but i stand corrected. He had higher ratings in his career but he was over 100. Oh BTW the one in red is not Russ its dak. I know he had this great line which i think is over rated anymore.
 

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He's had two consecutive years of 100+ QB ratings the last two seasons on two mediocre to bad Seattle teams.

You guys are acting like he played like Ben DiNucci out there the last two years.

exaggerate much? No one said hes like the Nooch. But dont you go around disrespecting the Nooch up in here
 

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Herbert's talent is significantly better than Dak's. He's bigger, stronger, faster, more mobile, better arm, etc. There's the separation between the two. You don't have to worry about playoff success here because, frankly, Dak hasn't had a ton of success himself in the postseason. So in that case, just look at talent. It's not really that hard to see the difference.

Are you arguing here that Herbert isn't better than Dak?
I judge QBs on production. Period.

Bill Parcells said it best: “Performance is everything. Potential is nothing.”

Herbert may very well have a better career than Dak, but he’ll have to prove it on the field. Tell me about his TD/INT ratio, not his “arm strength.”


Carson Wentz >>>>>> Dak based on the standards you just provided.

Jeff George >>>>> Troy Aikman based on the standards you just provided.
 

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exaggerate much? No one said hes like the Nooch. But dont you go around disrespecting the Nooch up in here

It was hyperbole to prove a point. Wilson was pretty good the last years playing for a crap team. But some of you keep saying he wasn't all that good which is preposterous.
 

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I judge QBs on production. Period.

Bill Parcells said it best: “Performance is everything. Potential is nothing.”

Herbert may very well have a better career than Dak, but he’ll have to prove it on the field. Tell me about his TD/INT ratio, not his “arm strength.”


Carson Wentz >>>>>> Dak based on the standards you just provided.

Jeff George >>>>> Troy Aikman based on the standards you just provided.

So to be clear, if the Chargers offered up Herbert straight up in a trade for Dak, you'd say no?

Hahaha.
 

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It was hyperbole to prove a point. Wilson was pretty good the last years playing for a crap team. But some of you keep saying he wasn't all that good which is preposterous.
Well what I said is i wasnt sure he still was better than dak or as good as he used to be and i want to see him in denver as i know the OL had issues in Seattle the last couple years. I think your hyperboling the heck out if it lol but i didnt read all the comments
 

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10 is it?

Damn, that means there are 9 other reams with better QB’s.

But, there are 22 other teams with worse ones.
 

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Interesting. I didnt know that. Thanks for the info.

Like Ive said before. Dak needs to improve. Especially with his consistency. However. You cant say "Dak needs to win these games" when you and me both know winning and losing is a team game.

I would like to see how the defense played in the games the Cowboys didnt run for 100.

Not so good against Denver. But the offense couldn't do anything, rushing or passing.

The defense played good against KC. 82 yards rushing.

Against the Raiders, well, Brown kind of messed that game up.

Then you have Arizona. Defense played ok.
 

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His stats were all for nothing. All that matters here is W/L right? So his stats if you use peoples opinion here would all be considered garbage time.


Thats the thing for me, Rank them how you like but just use the same measuring stick for them...if its stats great if its post season succes great...whatever just dont go "I like this persons stats but am going to discount this persons stats and use his Playoff record" sillyness..but its a group of people ranking so your going to get that i guess.. Same 13 QB's circling around the top 10 and besides maybe 3 of them dont know how many more games you win switching them with the "QB's on bad teams" to be honest. Point in case did the Texans not have about the same record with thier current QB situation and a bad team that they had with Watson and a bad team?
 
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