After further review a week later, Refs stole game from Cowboys vs Packers once again

Runwildboys

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I'm pissed you refuse to see the flop.
Don't care. If you can't see... (Excuse me) If you refuse to see the jersey being held by McG's right hand, preventing the defender from turning to make the tackle, then McG shoving his off balance *** to the ground, you're only seeing what you want to see, and I know too many people like that already.
 

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Why would there be an investigation? A Jets fan took the NFL to court about some blatant non calls against the Patriots once. The court said the NFL is registered as an entertainment league (like pro wrestling) so the NFL cannot be held liable eve if there is blatant cheating and fixing by the NFL.

They can fix games anytime they want and laugh at you for caring.

Another reason the nfl is not that important to real football fans anymore.

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Or perhaps the NFL registered themselves as entertainment to prevent loons like that Jets fan from taking them to court over freakin' penalties. No one has time to waste on some loser without a life (and clearly without a woman or mortgage).
 

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We blew a 14 point lead against a mediocre team.

That was the issue, not a ref’s call. LOL.

Or it can be both. Dallas blew the lead but was in control in OT to erase that and win the game or at the very least, burn more clock and kick a FG. Both can be true.

That was a terrible holding call and yet another b.s. call from the refs against Dallas.
 

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Honestly, I'm getting kinda pissed off that anyone is so dead set against seeing the truth that they've convinced themselves that this wasn't a hold.

Don't let it get to you, man. Not even remotely worth it. This is a place of slanted fandom entertainment, not a bastion of truth and honor. By hook or by crook, people want what they want and will employ any means to do so nowadays. Get it? Hook? In a thread about holding? Get it? Huh? Huh?
 

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Don't let it get to you, man. Not even remotely worth it. This is a place of slanted fandom entertainment, not a bastion of truth and honor. By hook or by crook, people want what they want and will employ any means to do so nowadays. Get it? Hook? In a thread about holding? Get it? Huh? Huh?
Its one thing when it's a matter of opinion, or when it's just hard to see, but man, this is so friggin' clear!
 

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Why would there be an investigation? A Jets fan took the NFL to court about some blatant non calls against the Patriots once. The court said the NFL is registered as an entertainment league (like pro wrestling) so the NFL cannot be held liable eve if there is blatant cheating and fixing by the NFL.

They can fix games anytime they want and laugh at you for caring.

Another reason the nfl is not that important to real football fans anymore.

Check this out...


If the NFL believed there was collusion with officials to throw games they would conduct an investigation themselves in order to protect the integrity of the game and image of the shield regardless their entertainment designation.

That court ruling just protects them from legal responsibility. And by your own definition you’re not interested in the NFL any longer. What do you care?
 
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Its one thing when it's a matter of opinion, or when it's just hard to see, but man, this is so friggin' clear!

I know it, you know it, but their pride also knows it and they've determined that it's a pill they will not swallow. I just turn it into a sport of its own and go about my way. Lol.
 

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Or perhaps the NFL registered themselves as entertainment to prevent loons like that Jets fan from taking them to court over freakin' penalties. No one has time to waste on some loser without a life (and clearly without a woman or mortgage).
Lol...You are part of the scam.

The evidence is irrefutable and been proven in court already. Maybe your not informed in such things, but it is called precedent in a court case.

So you can keep on carrying the water for a corrupt, but very profitable entertainment business. Goodell and greedy owners decided to fix the game and you are thier biggest cheerleader on this board.

Did you even watch the video? What facts in there were wrong?

Hope they pay you good! Is this called overtime for you if you post at night?
 

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Lol...You are part of the scam.

The evidence is irrefutable and been proven in court already. Maybe your not informed in such things, but it is called precedent in a court case.

So you can keep on carrying the water for a corrupt, but very profitable entertainment business. Goodell and greedy owners decided to fix the game and you are thier biggest cheerleader on this board.

Did you even watch the video? What facts in there were wrong?

Hope they pay you good! Is this called overtime for you if you post at night?

Now that Goodell's given me a helicopter, I rise above you Earth-dwelling peons. Eat my downdraft dust, piker.
 

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If the NFL believed there was collusion with officials to throw games they would conduct an investigation themselves in order to protect the integrity of the game and image of the shield regardless their entertainment designation.

That court ruling just protects them from legal responsibility. And by your own definition you’re not interested in the NFL any longer. What do you care?
Becasue I played the game myself in the 60s and 70s. Greatest sport I have ever been involved in.

Now it's corrupt. What in the video did you disagree with?

Personally I would love to see it the way it was prior to Goodell,
 

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Now that Goodell's given me a helicopter, I rise above you Earth-dwelling peons. Eat my downdraft dust, piker.
Well that makes sense since you consider yourself high and mighty over "most fans who don't know the rules".

You, Hulk Hogan and Hacksaw Jim Dugan are true legitimate sports legends...Just like Rocky!
 

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Becasue I played the game myself in the 60s and 70s. Greatest sport I have ever been involved in.

Now it's corrupt. What in the video did you disagree with?

Indeed, any missed call by an official is proof of a league-wide conspiracy.

Thank goodness for your keen insights to educate the rest of us. :muttley:
 

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They’ve made the refs irrelevant to the tune of 8-3. Imagine their record on an even playing field.
But suddenly...not this time.

If you can't score the whole qtr...or in the ot....and in fact give the ball to the other team for free.....and then blame the refs....

You are a weak crybaby. From players to coaches to fans.

Can't even kick a fg....the whole qtr....or ot? And threw interception.

But the refs lost us this game.

Weak crybabies. Take your azz whipping like a man.....and do better next time.
 

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Becasue I played the game myself in the 60s and 70s. Greatest sport I have ever been involved in.

Now it's corrupt. What in the video did you disagree with?

Personally I would love to see it the way it was prior to Goodell,
The game has evolved . There’s no going back, The money and popularity has changed professional sports .

My uncle chose not to play in the NFL in the early 60’s because it didn’t pay enough.

Doesn’t mean that there’s corruption with officiating.
 

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Indeed, any missed call by an official is proof of a league-wide conspiracy.

Thank goodness for your keen insights to educate the rest of us. :muttley:
Isn’t it amazing that there doesn’t seem to be any officiating conspiracies when we win?
 

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But suddenly...not this time.

If you can't score the whole qtr...or in the ot....and in fact give the ball to the other team for free.....and then blame the refs....

You are a weak crybaby. From players to coaches to fans.

Can't even kick a fg....the whole qtr....or ot? And threw interception.

But the refs lost us this game.

Weak crybabies. Take your azz whipping like a man.....and do better next time.

Oh great. Extra macho. How useful. Don’t you think 8-3 despite the flags kinda makes the refs more irrelevant?
 
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Well that makes sense since you consider yourself high and mighty over "most fans who don't know the rules".

You, Hulk Hogan and Hacksaw Jim Dugan are true legitimate sports legends...Just like Rocky!

Hey, glad you recognize my work!

Listen, I saw your video and it's base and basic at its best. It's full of "because there could be fraud, yeah, there's fraud" suppositions and makes Goodell into some puppeteer who says who wins and loses (obviously the Cowboys are on the lose list, lol). What did I disagree with? Here's a single one to chew on.

About that court case, your video states:
“… and the courts ruled on the NFL’s side stating that ‘as long as a fan gets to see a live sporting event, the NFL is legally able to fix the outcome for entertainment purposes,’ giving the NFL the legal right to fix its own games, the same as the WWE and the sports entertainment business.”

False. The case stated that just because something happened on the field outside of the league's rules like with Spygate, you, the fans only contracted to come in and see a game with a ticket and have no remedy if you think it wasn't an "honest" (or crappy) game. Same way you can't sue if a fan comes out of the stands to tackle a runner on the way to a game-winning TD that the NFL doesn't automatically rule a TD and that team loses. So naturally, the video takes the most evil leap and says the NFL puts on dishonest games because they can and the court would support them if they did. This is your "proof?" I also like how they show pics of controversial plays that were actually correct as called by the rules but stir up the 'spiracy feelings in viewers. I mean, I could cook up better subliminals than that. Lol.
Here is the actual legal opinion from the case: https://casetext.com/case/mayer-v-belichick-3

If you read through it, you'll see that the decision to deny the plaintiff was based on legal precedence going as far back as the scab replacement games in 1989 because someone sued about those. In case you didn't catch it, 1989 is 17 years before Roger Goodell took over as commissioner in the NFL. In fact, people have been suing for refunds over concert performances and sports performances that were subpar for years before that case and all were denied or thrown out. Someone sued the Rams because they sucked in 1999 (7 years before Goodell). Basically, the precedence says you're entitled to get into an event you wanted when you buy a ticket. Nothing else is guaranteed. Court decisions like this go back as far as 1905 [Collister v. Hayman, 76 N.E. 20 (N.Y. 1905)]!!! So then let's take huge leaps and fill in the gaps to say that the NFL is going to rig games under Goodell because NOW fans can't stop us. Uh, courts have been saying that for over a century already.
So your video's premise that Goodell as Dark Lord doesn't seem to hold more weight than the suggestion I gave off the top of my head, which is that the NFL, already having been through the courts over the years to fend off idiotic lawsuits from overzealous fans prior to Goodell, probably labels itself entertainment to protect against future loons in this age of "conspiracy because I didn't get what I wanted" the same as entertainment acts who fend off lawsuits because a singer didn't hit a high enough note as the recorded song or the performer was drunk and they didn't "get their money's worth." Are there not better rickshaws to chase through the streets? Really?
 
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