The big take away from the Super Bowl

[khiladi]

Dallas and Moore also led the league in second half scoring, even if you discount defensive scoring TDs its top, and when Moore took over, they basically went to top 5.

Acting like Moore doesn’t adjust is comical. The Chargers had Lombardi and they hired Moore for a reason. Chargers were 28th in second half scoring.

The only people that think it’s Moore and not Dak are Dak-azoids.

 

[bottleKids]

The best thing I took away is the Eagles DC was exposed as a fraud and showed zero ability to adjust (two TDs on same play in redzone back to back for Chiefs). Hopefully this prevents him from getting a head coaching position, and he is back next year for Phily with a much lessor defensive roster. Eagles will go from one of the best to probably bottom defense next year.

 

[75boyz]

Decision making by the most important position holder on the field is at the foundation of Cowboy failure.
No coach, scheme or personnel support can overcome a QB's inability to make the right decisions with the ball in his hands in big games.

That, unfortunately is Cowboy reality.

 

[khiladi]

I said before the SB, it’s franchise QB play that wins SBs. Teams rarely win if they don’t have it, and when they do it is because they have a generational defense for a short period of time. If a good QB wins a SB, it’s because he PLAYS ELITE, during that stretch. Joe Flacco had an all-time great performance when they won and so did Eli the second run.

The job of the OC is to give the QB options. If the option is there, but the QB missed it, it is on the QB period.

Further, by the end of the season, teams generally have a good grasp of a teams tendencies. It is when the elite QBs make plays by throwing lasers despite the fact a defense may have dialed up the right call.

 

[Acceptablename]

Coaching on offense matters. Anyone who watched what the Cheifs did tonight can see the night and day difference between that and whatever Kellen tries to do. You don't need a complicated offense just one that you run well and gets players open. You don't need elite weapons. Hopefully Big Mike took some notes tonight.

You do need a stout offensive line

 

[khiladi]

It doesn't, but a couple of TDs came on plays any QB should have been able to compete. The play-calls got the receivers wide open.

You can say that for plenty of Dak’s TDs, but then you wouldn’t have Moore to blame. Dallas was first in red zone scoring for a reason.

 

[atlantacowboy]

And in light of that - how exactly then does it make sense to pay say a Hurts or a Dak or a Cousins based on what guys like Mahomes and Rodgers got paid? These are not the same caliber of player or talent. It's like saying that because the price of Iberico ham is so high we are going to price Boars Head ham at the same price.

The Eagles don't have to pay Hurts for 2-3 more years with franchise tags.. If he keeps leading them to Super Bowls, you pay him. I mean he accounted for 4 TDs in a super bowl and had a hell of a game.

Let me me just say that I was a Hurts basher. I celebrated when Alabama benched him and was incredulous he got drafted in round 2. I was even more incredulous they made him a starter. However, the progress he has made playing within his ability is staggering. I think Hurts is the first non-traditional Qb I would consider paying b/c he doesn't rattle, is so smart , and rarely ever makes a bad decision. Between the ears, he is the opposite of Dak.

 

[75boyz]

The Eagles don't have to pay Hurts for 2-3 more years with franchise tags.. If he keeps leading them to Super Bowls, you pay him. I mean he accounted for 4 TDs in a super bowl and had a hell of a game.

Let me me just say that I was a Hurts basher. I celebrated when Alabama benched him and was incredulous he got drafted in round 2. I was even more incredulous they made him a starter. However, the progress he has made playing within his ability is staggering. I think Hurts is the first non-traditional Qb I would consider paying b/c he doesn't rattle, is so smart , and rarely ever makes a bad decision. Between the ears, he is the opposite of Dak.

Nice post. I'm a Bama guy, and totally agree.

 

[rambo2]

Coaching on offense matters. Anyone who watched what the Cheifs did tonight can see the night and day difference between that and whatever Kellen tries to do. You don't need a complicated offense just one that you run well and gets players open. You don't need elite weapons. Hopefully Big Mike took some notes tonight.

The Chiefs were lucky to win. Hurts gave them a td by dropping the ball and kicking it. Eagles gm shot his wad and ended up with nothing. No championship and only 1 Super Bowl win in 57 years.

 

[Cowfan75]

The big takeaway is that this will bolster Jerry's claim that we don't need to do anything in the offseason because...see, it didn't work for the Eagles!!

 

[Floatyworm]

Coaching on offense matters. Anyone who watched what the Cheifs did tonight can see the night and day difference between that and whatever Kellen tries to do. You don't need a complicated offense just one that you run well and gets players open. You don't need elite weapons. Hopefully Big Mike took some notes tonight.

It all starts with the QB...AND we don't have one.

 

[McKDaddy]

My takeaway is that you need elite QB play on the biggest stage. Dakota will never sniff that kind of play.

It makes the world a much easier place when you have an elite one. You can win with one who isn't quite elite but it takes a lot of things to go right. Unfortunately, Dak can't even sniff that level either.

 

[McKDaddy]

This is the biggest take away, the way they replace Tyreek Hill vs the way we replaced Cooper:

KC
JuJu in the super bowl 7 rec for 52 yards
Toney a touchdown and a 65 yard punt return in super bowl
Sky Moore a touchdown in super bowl
MVS AFCCG 6 rec for 116 yards 1 td no catches in super bowl


Cowboys

James Washington 1 target 0 rec on the year
Jalen Tolbert 2 rec 12 yards on the year
TY 7 rec for 121 on the year
Dennis Houston 2rec for 16 yards on the year


Mahomes is great but the KC brought in more proven and talented wrs to replace Tyreek Hill than the Cowboys did to replace Amari Cooper. The guys they brought in made a difference yesterday and they weren't there they may not be World Champions.

I hear what you are saying and I'm not saying you're wrong but there is one huge difference that has nothing to do with the WR talent. PM can put the ball anywhere he wants it to make it as simple as possible for the receiver. It just can't be overlooked that great QB's make others around them look better.

 

[CATCH17]

I hear what you are saying and I'm not saying you're wrong but there is one huge difference that has nothing to do with the WR talent. PM can put the ball anywhere he wants it to make it as simple as possible for the receiver. It just can't be overlooked that great QB's make others around them look better.

KCs team isn’t anything special.

People look at the result and think KC is some great team. They’re not.

Mahomes and Andy Reid is what makes them.

 

[gtb1943]

You can say that for plenty of Dak’s TDs, but then you wouldn’t have Moore to blame. Dallas was first in red zone scoring for a reason.

Blaming Dak for it all is just as dumb as blaming Moore for it all. THEY SHARED the responsibility for the lack of success when crunch time came

 

[McKDaddy]

The Eagles don't have to pay Hurts for 2-3 more years with franchise tags.. If he keeps leading them to Super Bowls, you pay him. I mean he accounted for 4 TDs in a super bowl and had a hell of a game.

Let me me just say that I was a Hurts basher. I celebrated when Alabama benched him and was incredulous he got drafted in round 2. I was even more incredulous they made him a starter. However, the progress he has made playing within his ability is staggering. I think Hurts is the first non-traditional Qb I would consider paying b/c he doesn't rattle, is so smart , and rarely ever makes a bad decision. Between the ears, he is the opposite of Dak.

Yes, there is a difference between a runner playing the QB position and a guy who can actually be a QB AND be a runner when needed.

Hurts has made a strong case that he has the mental makeup to do this and you have to admit he made some outstanding passes. If he continues to show this, then yes you pay him because he tilts the game in your favor.

 

[gtb1943]

KCs team isn’t anything special.

People look at the result and think KC is some great team. They’re not.

Mahomes and Andy Reid is what makes them.

Now who was it here that called Mahoomes a choker?

He is without a doubt now clearly the best QB in the NFL. Physical tools combined with the mentality of a real winner.

I have seen QBs with more talent athletically and QBs with more talent mentally but never a QB with so much of both.

 

[gtb1943]

Yes, there is a difference between a runner playing the QB position and a guy who can actually be a QB AND be a runner when needed.

Hurts has made a strong case that he has the mental makeup to do this and you have to admit he made some outstanding passes. If he continues to show this, then yes you pay him because he tilts the game in your favor.

The real question with Hurts is how long will he last? Running QBs get hit more and harder and sooner or later get injured. You have to make the judgement call as regards that if you are the GM

 

[atlantacowboy]

Yes, there is a difference between a runner playing the QB position and a guy who can actually be a QB AND be a runner when needed.

Hurts has made a strong case that he has the mental makeup to do this and you have to admit he made some outstanding passes. If he continues to show this, then yes you pay him because he tilts the game in your favor.

Who are you debating? I agree.

 

[McKDaddy]

The real question with Hurts is how long will he last? Running QBs get hit more and harder and sooner or later get injured. You have to make the judgement call as regards that if you are the GM

That is part of the mental as well though. I haven't seen him get lit up that much. He generally gets out of bounds or down. I don't see his running as that problematic. But of course it only takes one time.