Fixing the trenches still is paramount

[Cowboyny]

-How far are we away from finishing the OL rebuilding job? Probably one elite guard and a developmental starting guard for when Martin decided to retire. Think the team believes Walesko is their future backup swing tackle. Torrence, Schmitz, Avila fill that elite need, where the latter two offer center versatility.

-DL is a different animal as they need serious help within the interior at both 3 and 0-1 techniques. This position usually has a steep, learning curve unless you are drafting a top 10 prospect. Bender, Dexter offer future help at both spots, where adding another veteran NT makes more sense then drafting one for instant impact.

 

[cnuball21]

-How far are we away from finishing the OL rebuilding job? Probably one elite guard and a developmental starting guard for when Martin decided to retire. Think the team believes Walesko is their future backup swing tackle. Torrence, Schmitz, Avila fill that elite need, where the latter two offer center versatility.

-DL is a different animal as they need serious help within the interior at both 3 and 0-1 techniques. This position usually has a steep, learning curve unless you are drafting a top 10 prospect. Bender, Dexter offer future help at both spots, where adding another veteran NT makes more sense then drafting one for instant impact.

I don’t think we really need an elite G just someone to come in and compete with Chuma. League average would be fine. I think what’s more important is continued development from Tyler X 2 and Tyron staying healthy. Spending another 1st on the OL is poor roster management IMO unless it’s on an OT.

I think Osa has improved each year and is going to be a quality 3T moving forward. Would like to see a good rotational player there and a young 1T to take over for when Hanks is done but those players are fairly easy to find.

 

[Cowboyny]

I don’t think we really need an elite G just someone to come in and compete with Chuma. League average would be fine. I think what’s more important is continued development from Tyler X 2 and Tyron staying healthy. Spending another 1st on the OL is poor roster management IMO unless it’s on an OT.

I think Osa has improved each year and is going to be a quality 3T moving forward. Would like to see a good rotational player there and a young 1T to take over for when Hanks is done but those players are fairly easy to find.

We don’t need a 1st rd guard, but one might there available in rd 2, both Schmitz, Avila are considered on most sites as firm day 2 prospects. Perhaps a small trade up.

Think they have to continue to add talent inside along the defensive line. Find versatile lineman who can play anywhere is the key. If our prospects need some development, find bridge veterans, which Hankins certainly is.

 

[cnuball21]

We don’t need a 1st rd guard, but one might there available in rd 2, both Schmitz, Avila are considered on most sites as firm day 2 prospects. Perhaps a small trade up.

Think they have to continue to add talent inside along the defensive line. Find versatile lineman who can play anywhere is the key. If our prospects need some development, find bridge veterans, which Hankins certainly is.

Yea, I think you can get a stud even in the 3rd round. There are several players that no one is even talking about on here that I think can develop into quality starters. If they take time, we covered our basis with Chuma in someone with plenty of starting experience.

Agree on the DL - keep adding talent. Really like the Young kid from Bama as a mid round target.

 

[Cowboyny]

Yea, I think you can get a stud even in the 3rd round. There are several players that no one is even talking about on here that I think can develop into quality starters. If they take time, we covered our basis with Chuma in someone with plenty of starting experience.

Agree on the DL - keep adding talent. Really like the Young kid from Bama as a mid round target.

Just keep in mind Churna is on the level as Farnoik, but even close to an average starter like McGovern, he wii be exposed if he needs to start for an extended period. If they are going to keep Tyler at LT, they are going need a legitimate starter at left guard. There are just a few in this class and probably have to be addressed by the end of day 2

 

[Risen Star]

This comes from a guy who insists we must draft a cornerback early because of 2024 and beyond.

Tell me more about your commitment to the trenches.

 

[cnuball21]

Just keep in mind Churna is on the level as Farnoik, but even close to an average starter like McGovern, he wii be exposed if he needs to start for an extended period. If they are going to keep Tyler at LT, they are going need a legitimate starter at left guard. There are just a few in this class and probably have to be addressed by the end of day 2

Maybe - but you’re also completely ruling out any additional development from either player. They’re both still young and will likely give you whatever a rookie is going to give you no matter how early he’s drafted.

 

[Cowboyny]

This comes from a guy who insists we must draft a cornerback early because of 2024 and beyond.

Tell me more about your commitment to the trenches.

Corner remains a top three priority need

 

[morasp]

It's important to have good offensive and defensive lines

 

[Cowboyny]

Maybe - but you’re also completely ruling out any additional development from either player. They’re both still young and will likely give you whatever a rookie is going to give you no matter how early he’s drafted.

If you take a guard within the top 3 rounds, the expectation is they will start day 1. Will they need development? Yes, just like Tyler, who was expected to start at guard being a raw prospect When he was drafted. Connor Williams started day 1 when he was drafted in the 2nd rd

 

[CowboyRoy]

-How far are we away from finishing the OL rebuilding job? Probably one elite guard and a developmental starting guard for when Martin decided to retire. Think the team believes Walesko is their future backup swing tackle. Torrence, Schmitz, Avila fill that elite need, where the latter two offer center versatility.

-DL is a different animal as they need serious help within the interior at both 3 and 0-1 techniques. This position usually has a steep, learning curve unless you are drafting a top 10 prospect. Bender, Dexter offer future help at both spots, where adding another veteran NT makes more sense then drafting one for instant impact.

I agree. To me guard or OT are the #1 need on this football team. And it has to be a stud. Top 2 round pick minimum.

 

[cnuball21]

If you take a guard within the top 3 rounds, the expectation is they will start day 1. Will they need development? Yes, just like Tyler, who was expected to start at guard being a raw prospect When he was drafted. Connor Williams started day 1 when he was drafted in the 2nd rd

That’s fine, I’m just saying they might be bad in year 1 like a lot of rookies are. Still think our best OL next year is Tyron at LT and Tyler at LG but it probably won’t happen.

I’m all for getting guys to develop though.

 

[Cowboyny]

That’s fine, I’m just saying they might be bad in year 1 like a lot of rookies are. Still think our best OL next year is Tyron at LT and Tyler at LG but it probably won’t happen.

I’m all for getting guys to develop though.

How long will Tyron go before he gets hurt again? Will he even make it out of camp, like last yr?

 

[Cowboyny]

I agree. To me guard or OT are the #1 need on this football team. And it has to be a stud. Top 2 round pick minimum.

Yes, based on the lack of depth, I agree

 

[CowboyRoy]

Yes, based on the lack of depth, I agree

I think we have good depth I just think that either Steele or Tyron should be that swing depth. WE need a stud rookie starting at guard.

If we go into the season with ONLY the guys we have now, then its a disaster waiting to happen and its already worse than last year.

 

[cnuball21]

How long will Tyron go before he gets hurt again? Will he even make it out of camp, like last yr?

Maybe not, but going to to try him there first because if he stays healthy you upgrade LT and LG.

 

[Stash]

We don’t need a 1st rd guard, but one might there available in rd 2, both Schmitz, Avila are considered on most sites as firm day 2 prospects. Perhaps a small trade up.

Think they have to continue to add talent inside along the defensive line. Find versatile lineman who can play anywhere is the key. If our prospects need some development, find bridge veterans, which Hankins certainly is.

I was thinking the other way, with a slight trade down into round 2 while picking up additional draft picks this year.

Aside from a firm decision at left guard, they also need to decide whether to pay or quit with Biadasz at center.

I think you could do some good work with three picks in the second and third rounds and potentially fill needs at IOL, DT, and RB.

 

[baltcowboy]

-How far are we away from finishing the OL rebuilding job? Probably one elite guard and a developmental starting guard for when Martin decided to retire. Think the team believes Walesko is their future backup swing tackle. Torrence, Schmitz, Avila fill that elite need, where the latter two offer center versatility.

-DL is a different animal as they need serious help within the interior at both 3 and 0-1 techniques. This position usually has a steep, learning curve unless you are drafting a top 10 prospect. Bender, Dexter offer future help at both spots, where adding another veteran NT makes more sense then drafting one for instant impact.

It appears the Cowboys staff think the left guard/interior is the problem with the offense after hearing the insiders/ local talking heads. The question is do they think they have the left guard on the roster or do they believe they need to spend a top 2 round pick on the position. To get a quality 1 tech I think you gonna have to spend a high pick on that player. They really need a young 1 tech. Gholston will probably be the 3 tech after Osa.

 

[TwoDeep3]

If you don’t see the struggle they had late last season and not prioritize the offensive line as paramount. I wonder what you see that I don’t see?

A balanced offense is critical for several reasons. If you can successfully run play action, and lead draws you have defenses guessing. The idea of more of the same with Connor Williams and Connor McGovern is simply not addressing a serious issue.

If Dak needs a bit more time, whether you like it or not, then why would you throw caution to the wind and put in a JAG at guard?

Especially in the ground game.

The, “They can get quality in later rounds, “ because you think a guard doesn’t deserve to be picked in the first, then you roll the dice on the one area in the offense that sets up ALL skill players for success.

The Madden mindset confounds me at its blind faith that football bromides have no exceptions.

 

[Cowboyny]

I think we have good depth I just think that either Steele or Tyron should be that swing depth. WE need a stud rookie starting at guard.

If we go into the season with ONLY the guys we have now, then its a disaster waiting to happen and its already worse than last year.

Meant lack of depth at guard in the draft this yr.