Why are we in a rush to sign Dak?

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It doesnt matter where he's ranked, if he cant achieve in 2023 as a 30 year old what are the chances he's going to improve and take us to the next level? Being top 10, isnt good enough if he can't lead the team when he's needed....giving him the Daniel Jones $40m actually increases due to the remaining outstanding prorated bonus.

There is a decision to made (post June 2024 cut), especially with the good pending QB class of the 2024 class. Cut Dak, sign our free agents and build around a rookie QB (behind a good roster).....a bit like 2016.
 

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Brian Schottenheimer is a Pipe Head.....these Dak Lovers!!! :laugh:

Dak Haters Jokes are Lame!?:flagwave:

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#Cowboys OC Brian Schottenheimer on Dak: “I love the man, I love the work ethic; he's just a tireless preparer. The way the guys follow him, the way he wants to be coached…That shows you the sign of a true winner, a champion, and it's been awesome.”
Schott has been fired after one year with a team more than anyone in the history of the NFL. He's already on borrowed time. Him and Mike better be on the lookout for boxes at the liquor store to take their belongings home
 

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But did those same people....magically...say bucs were terrible? Your "logic" doesnt add up.
Also note i never said "worst team ever". I said one of....top 5. That washington team you mentioned is another.
Are you having trouble keeping facts straight or lying on purpose?
What am I lying about?
 

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I mean if there is a suitor you can trade him post June 1st as well. I said if his performance improves you can look at an extension. If he continues at a 3.8% int rate again in 2023 are you completely against looking at alternative options?
 

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That question never gets old when discussion focuses on Jerry Jones/front office decisions.
I just don't understand the meaning behind this thread ....... we have never been in a hurry about anything with Dak ....... The organization constantly waits till the last minute and then we end up overpaying.
 

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If he can't break that glass ceiling then let's move on.
after 8 years , he seems to be receding according to last year interceptions. top level QBs usually show up early and keep improving. look at Burrow and mahomes , and even Jalen hurts. Jerry should have drafted hurts or another good QB in the second round.
 

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You've done it again...dismissed Dak's weaknesses in one line and ranted about other excuses as to the failings.
how did I do it?, when I clearly said Dak needs to be better, Dak didn't play well and Dak is not elite...

its painfully obvious you have a line of argument you want to follow and you are not deviating from that...good for you.
 

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The facts is the Buccs sat their starters week 18. Let’s not ignore the facts….
What does this have to do with them being losers? You are the one that wants to honor "the reality" of us beating Brady in an away playoff game.

Now suddenly...their record needs a caveat.
 

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What am I lying about?
This:


Its funny y'all say this now but this site....50% of the site said we'd lose to the Buccs lol. Now they are the worst team to ever make the playoffs...even though the Commanders a few years ago were TERRIBLE.
(which nobody ever said. They are ONE of the worst...top 5. Washington is as well. ).

I think you either just can't keep your story straight and have to get some hyperbole in so you can fight...or straight up lying so you can fight. Either is unbecoming...dishonest.
 

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I just don't understand the meaning behind this thread ....... we have never been in a hurry about anything with Dak ....... The organization constantly waits till the last minute and then we end up overpaying.
The pattern did not start with Prescott. There were people who were essentially saying the same thing about Romo. Romo got paid eventually.

Jerry Jones has done the same with players at other positions. Some folks think their opinion of what should happen will substitute Jones' past M.O. Good luck with that.
 

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This:



(which nobody ever said. They are ONE of the worst...top 5. Washington is as well. ).

I think you either just can't keep your story straight and have to get some hyperbole in so you can fight...or straight up lying so you can fight. Either is unbecoming...dishonest.
Where did I lie?

The BUCS were probably the worse team to ever make the playoffs. But lets celebrate a JV level playoff win. YAY! Woohoo!

Ok now that's over, let's talk about these 49ers 2 years in a row. Same outcome.


Explain yourself…
 

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They were a playoff team.
Fine they were.

But if you won't agree with me that there are playoff teams (by default...in a bad division) and then there are PLAYOFF TEAMS (by being GOOD and having a winning record)....

then we really have nothing further to talk about. This is a fundamental hurdle in having a rational discussion.

Not all "playoff teams" are equal.

You think I'm nuts. You think going by some CZ poll and making up stuff people say makes you right. Well....take a look here:

"Bucs are still in first place, but they don't look like a playoff team"​

https://www.foxsports.com/stories/n...n-first-place-but-dont-look-like-playoff-team

So there it is buddy. Read 'em and weep. It ain;t me.
 

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It doesnt matter where he's ranked, if he cant achieve in 2023 as a 30 year old what are the chances he's going to improve and take us to the next level? Being top 10, isnt good enough if he can't lead the team when he's needed....giving him the Daniel Jones $40m actually increases due to the remaining outstanding prorated bonus.

There is a decision to made (post June 2024 cut), especially with the good pending QB class of the 2024 class. Cut Dak, sign our free agents and build around a rookie QB (behind a good roster).....a bit like 2016.
We've seen way worse QBs win it all. That's what matters.
 

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I mean if there is a suitor you can trade him post June 1st as well. I said if his performance improves you can look at an extension. If he continues at a 3.8% int rate again in 2023 are you completely against looking at alternative options?
If the offense continues to average over 30 ppg for a 4th year in a row with him under center, I'm not going to care about unlucky bounces upping his INT % at all. He wasn't even in the top 5 in interceptable passes last year.
 

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Fine they were.

But if you won't agree with me that there are playoff teams (by default...in a bad division) and then there are PLAYOFF TEAMS (by being GOOD and having a winning record)....

then we really have nothing further to talk about. This is a fundamental hurdle in having a rational discussion.

Not all "playoff teams" are equal.

You think I'm nuts. You think going by some CZ poll and making up stuff people say makes you right. Well....take a look here:

"Bucs are still in first place, but they don't look like a playoff team"​

https://www.foxsports.com/stories/n...n-first-place-but-dont-look-like-playoff-team

So there it is buddy. Read 'em and weep. It ain;t me.
I'm still waiting for you to address where I "lied" at?
 

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The problem is he's the one with ball in his hand for every offensive play and therefore has the most influence and opportunity to change the result.

My main concern with Dak is that in recent years he fails to step up and lead the offense when they need him to most....great at bullying lesser Defences, but needing a TD with a hurry up offense...nope.
I agree somewhat, but there is this - do you want a qb that is great at comebacks, or a qb that is great at getting and keeping leads?

Yes, eventually every qb will have to lead a stirring comeback win, but I'd much rather prefer my qb to be able to get ahead and stay ahead. I also think that this Dallas team is capable of being that kind of a team, and Dak won't need to be the Comeback Kid for us to win a SB.

We'll see....
 

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I'm still waiting for you to address where I "lied" at?
Already did. Post #410.You can't keep track of things. Not my fault.

nobody said "bucs were the worst ever". They were....among the very worst teams to ever make it in. It's a fact. I even showed you foxsports agrees with me...not you. Do you need some more?


All you have to do is say "yep, that was a bad playoff team". But somehow you keep your bloody fingernails grasping at the cliff edge. One stubborn hombre sheesh.
 

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Already did. Post #410.You can't keep track of things. Not my fault.

nobody said "bucs were the worst ever". They were....among the very worst teams to ever make it in. It's a fact. I even showed you foxsports agrees with me...not you. Do you need some more?


All you have to do is say "yep, that was a bad playoff team". But somehow you keep your bloody fingernails grasping at the cliff edge. One stubborn hombre sheesh.
You said I "made stuff up" and "lied"...yet you have not addressed you were wrong or "lied". I need you to properly address that because you consistently say this stuff and when you get proven wrong you try to gloss over it. Nah.....address that then we can continue this conversation.

There's no such thing as a bad playoff team. You are either a playoff team or not. You're trying to discredit the W because it makes Dak look good. Or you think it makes him look good. At the end of the day they got their ***** whooped in the next round agains the 49ers yet again and that doesn't change so no reason to try and discredit him for it.
 
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