News: PFN: Dak Prescott: The NFC's Best Quarterback and a Top-5 NFL QB at His Best

[5Stars]

Wait for the Dak Hater Derangement Syndrome to kick.......3...2...1!!!!


You can't make this Stupidity up!!!

Yo @5Stars! Come get your peoples!!

Dak Haters NON-Football Issues

lol...Hey, I'm on my own, big dog! I cannot control what others do.

 

[jterrell]

pretty much running your mouth for no reason again, I see

If you don't see the difference between leading the league in ints with 23 TDs and leading the league in picks with 41 TDs, I can't help you

You cant help yourself, ever.
This was a non-Cowboys based or biased article pointing out quite obvious and factual things and you had to open your beak because it hurt your feelings.

No one said Dak didn't have too may turnovers in 2022.
But adults can also note other QBs ALSO had too many turnovers in 2022 (without the blame) and the guy who led the league in turnovers in 2021 also won a Super Bowl.
Because that is also VERY MUCH TRUE.
But hit dogs holler.

You aren't a Cowboys troll, at least; but it just makes your insidious need to hold onto lost arguments for years even worse.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I'm trying to point out that when you make statements like "Herbert doesn't make the Chargers better" it undermines any other thing you say. It comes off as trying to drag down other QB's to prop up Dak. Just being honest. That then prompts criticism of your comments and the cycle begins. I think most guys who disagree with you about Dak like myself can accept a fair reasonable exchange of view points just like you & I had about Daniel Jones. Let's just stay away from the over the top statements.

As far as what I have watched of Herbert, it's been quite a bit so I am not relying on anyone's opinion. I wasn't sure what to make of him coming out of college but have been blown away by him. It's not an excuse to say that their WR's are perpetually injured. They had other injuries on their Oline & across their Defense as well. Last year the passing game at one point consisted of Parham the TE & Eckler. They also dumped the coaching staff during the previous offseason so again not sure how that is an excuse.

I plan to watch a lot of the Chargers this year. I haven't really followed their offseason so can't say if they have improved around him or not. Partially want to see how Moore does as I personally believe Moore is both a talented play designer and a flawed coordinator. Will be curious if a new environment forces him to improve upon his flaws.

It's not over the top. Let me rephrase my statement. When I say he doesn't make them better I mean he's not putting his team over. If Keenan Allen is hurt it should not be an automatic loss. If Austin Ekeler is hurt that should not affect Herbert. Because it wouldn't affect Mahomes.

So that's what I mean by not making them better. When an offensive lineman is out it shouldn't kill their team.

And I'm able to discuss quarterbacks without propping up Dak. The thing about the QB conversation is that I hold other QB's to the same standard that you guys hold Dak to. I just keep the same energy. And it's certain guys that I'm just not willing to hold in higher regard than Dak. To me I don't understand how one could say Dak sucks but hype up Deshaun Watson. Or use his turnovers against him but hype up Stafford or Josh Allen. For the record I'm not interested in debating how great Dak is because I think it's too tough of a conversation to have. I don't think either side would have it honestly.

I'm also of the belief that Mahomes is in a tier of his own. And that 2nd tier is where Hurts, Allen, etc. belong.

 

[Kevinicus]

You sure it doesn’t say more about the person who finds it stupid? Especially since you seek to be in the minority?

I didn't see anyone "make up their own stats".

 

[DFWJC]

You cant help yourself, ever.
This was a non-Cowboys based or biased article pointing out quite obvious and factual things and you had to open your beak because it hurt your feelings.

No one said Dak didn't have too may turnovers in 2022.
But adults can also note other QBs ALSO had too many turnovers in 2022 (without the blame) and the guy who led the league in turnovers in 2021 also won a Super Bowl.
Because that is also VERY MUCH TRUE.
But hit dogs holler.

You aren't a Cowboys troll, at least; but it just makes your insidious need to hold onto lost arguments for years even worse.

apples and oranges, but whatever

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Saying you seem to be in the minority is "making up stats"? Ok.

 

[Kevinicus]

Saying you seem to be in the minority is "making up stats"? Ok.

You didn't say "seem."
And yes it is. You have no evidence I'm in the minority. You just pulled that out of...well, you know, the thing.

 

[Mr_437]

Show up in big games against the best teams...that's all I focus on, no excuses necessary. CeeDee, Pollard, Zack, Micah and DLaw show up.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

You didn't say "seem."
And yes it is. You have no evidence I'm in the minority. You just pulled that out of...well, you know, the thing.

I said seem but it got autocorrected to "seek".

Either way though you are literally the only person in here saying what you're saying. But to you that means you're the majority?

 

[Kevinicus]

I said seem but it got autocorrected to "seek".

Either way though you are literally the only person in here saying what you're saying. But to you that means you're the majority?

Now you're just straight up lying. I've seen plenty of people saying the same thing. And you've responded to plenty of them too.

And making up other stuff.

I never said I was the majority. I don't have the numbers. Nor do you.

Just take the L, dude.

 

[McKDaddy]

It's not over the top. Let me rephrase my statement. When I say he doesn't make them better I mean he's not putting his team over. If Keenan Allen is hurt it should not be an automatic loss. If Austin Ekeler is hurt that should not affect Herbert. Because it wouldn't affect Mahomes.

So that's what I mean by not making them better. When an offensive lineman is out it shouldn't kill their team.

And I'm able to discuss quarterbacks without propping up Dak. The thing about the QB conversation is that I hold other QB's to the same standard that you guys hold Dak to. I just keep the same energy. And it's certain guys that I'm just not willing to hold in higher regard than Dak. To me I don't understand how one could say Dak sucks but hype up Deshaun Watson. Or use his turnovers against him but hype up Stafford or Josh Allen. For the record I'm not interested in debating how great Dak is because I think it's too tough of a conversation to have. I don't think either side would have it honestly.

I'm also of the belief that Mahomes is in a tier of his own. And that 2nd tier is where Hurts, Allen, etc. belong.

That is a much easier statement to digest IMO. Thank you for elaborating so we could have a reasonable discussion.

I think everyone agrees that there has to be a certain level of team around any player. When a team has as many injuries as Chargers had at times last season, I think it's fair not to expect too much from them or grade any individual player too harshly.

Only thing I will say on comparing QB turnovers is you have to look at the level of difficulty. It's one thing to throw an interception when a QB is trying to fit into a tight spot well downfield versus a comeback route with the defender in a great position to break on the ball. For example, Allen absolutely made some bad decisions last year. However, some of his throws were also the exact same ones that he often completes just because of his rare arm talent. Elite talent can bait you into some things others would stay away from.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Now you're just straight up lying. I've seen plenty of people saying the same thing. And you've responded to plenty of them too.

And making up other stuff.

I never said I was the majority. I don't have the numbers. Nor do you.

Just take the L, dude.

Who else is calling this article "stupid" because it doesn't say what they want it to? You're the only one doing it lol.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

That is a much easier statement to digest IMO. Thank you for elaborating so we could have a reasonable discussion.

I think everyone agrees that there has to be a certain level of team around any player. When a team has as many injuries as Chargers had at times last season, I think it's fair not to expect too much from them or grade any individual player too harshly.

Only thing I will say on comparing QB turnovers is you have to look at the level of difficulty. It's one thing to throw an interception when a QB is trying to fit into a tight spot well downfield versus a comeback route with the defender in a great position to break on the ball. For example, Allen absolutely made some bad decisions last year. However, some of his throws were also the exact same ones that he often completes just because of his rare arm talent. Elite talent can bait you into some things others would stay away from.

While you're right....a lot of those turnovers were just stupid. Stupid to throw it to begin with. I just expect more from him at this point.

And maybe I need to revisit my Chargers opinion because when they faced the Jags I don't recall guys being hurt. Especially their core guys.

 

[Momanpr100]

They have a point on a few things. Allen did turn it over a lot last year

But they conveniently leave out that Dak missed a whopping 5 games. Of course, if you play 5 more games you might have as many turnovers....but he did this with 5 less games.

They also do the brain-dead football take of mentioning Stafford's picks in 2021 but leaving out his massive TD numbers. 41 TDs and 17 ints (+24) and light years different than, say 23 TDs and 15 ints (+8).....I mean its 3 times better!

The article actually does mention the 5 games Prescott missed. It's in the article.

 

[Kevinicus]

Who else is calling this article "stupid" because it doesn't say what they want it to? You're the only one doing it lol.

I give up. Can't discuss with people who won't reason.

The word "stupid" may not be used. But plenty of been critical of their bad faith comparisons.

 

[JayFord]

I had the Same face, same reaction

 

[JayFord]

Why do I enter these.....

Because we're all mad down here and sometimes we have morbid curiosities

 

[Rockport]

……..not even the best quarterback in his division.

BEST QB in the NFC

 

[Momanpr100]

As if I care lololol

You care about things like that because playing your character here is important.

If they ban my account forever I wouldn’t care one bit.

You got 22,000 posts in 2 years. Oh you would definitely care lol. You care so much that you you'll definitely make a new account, who you kidding

 

[MikeB80]

The team obviously agreed with you as they released Moore into the wild to go get another job immediately.

The offensive stats suggest the offense has been great but it has obviously not been good enough when it mattered most.

I expect the offense to be better but a lot of that can be attributed to personnel.
2nd year Tyler Smith with Steele back and Bradin Cooks at WR should elevate the talent.

If you believe Bobby Belt....He said Kellen walked in at the end of the season and said I am done here. Apparently he and mccarthy did not get along and moore wanted out.