CFZ Biggest embarrassment in Cowboys history- and it won't matter enough to Jerry

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The problem with the Cowboys is its core, not the outer layers.

Just replacing head coaches, coordinators, quarterbacks, running backs, receivers, etc. will not solve the core problem.

Even just replacing the Jerry-the-GM will not solve it, though it would definitely help.

This team needs to be rebuilt from its core with a new mindset and new philosophy.

The team needs a coach who will demand order and perfection from the players.

It needs players who care more about winning Super Bowls than they do podcasts, social media and product promotion.

Most importantly, it needs players that care little about their own stats and care everything about winning Super Bowls.

This team needs a coach who is smart enough to trade star players who cannot help this team win a Super Bowl right now for draft picks that can be turned into the star players who can help the Cowboys compete for multiple Super Bowls in the coming years.
I agree completely with your premise however, I don't think the current system will allow what you propose - certainly not for an extended period of time.

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It's garbage. If that doesn't register with Jerry, NOTHING will. If he hires a re-tread, we'll know he doesn't care IMO
It's also wrong. Dallas has won THREE playoff games in Jerryworld...

Wild Card Sat January 5, 2019 Dallas 24, Seattle 22

Wild Card Sun January 4, 2015 Dallas 24, Detroit 20

Wild Card Sat January 9, 2010 Dallas 34, Philadelphia 14.

That's 3. Not that the point of Dallas being playoff chokers isn't a valid one, but GB having more playoff wins than Dallas in Jerryworld is flat out wrong.
 

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I’m old enough to have watched all 67 Cowboys playoff games. All 36 wins and all 31 losses. That was the most embarrassing loss in Cowboys history. To be trucked at home by a 9-8 #7 seed is beyond inexcusable. It’s actually what this organization has become: A lazy embarrassment when it matters most.

As I watched that colossal failure tonight unfold into a 27-0 deficit with 2:00 left in the first half, I could not help but think that there is no other team in the entire playoffs who would have stunk it up that bad at home with everything in front of them. To lay an egg of that proportion in front of millions is not only disgusting, it is gutless.

But my fellow Cowboys fans, I can guarantee you one thing: It won’t change things much at the Star. Nope. If you think Jerry Jones is as mad as we fans are or is angry enough to make major changes throughout this organization, don't get your hopes up. I will predict it right now- there will be no Bill Belechick or Jim Harbaugh “to the rescue”. Because this ship sinks every year regardless of the HC.

Since our last SB, we’ve had 6 different HCs, and 8 different OCs and DCs. And one GM who won’t change. Promise you. He will be smiling this July at his putrid “State of the Cowboys” presser in “Ox-nerd” selling sand to all us fans in this 28 year desert. And most Cowboys fans will buy it again. Oh and expect Mike McCarthy to be seated with JJ and “Giggles” next July. Because JJ likes being comfortable more than he likes to be hungry.
Spot on. As long as Jerry is involved their is no team only individuals who make money for Jerry’s toy cowboys.
 

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Bob there is a point where kids wont want to be Cowboys fans. I am 30, i have witnessed zero winning. My nephew who is 7 only knows the cowboys to be epic losers - any kid that age who is a fan get’s the works.

In 10 years, kids will look at the cowboys like the browns and the old fans will be dead. This is a crucial point for the franchise
The cowboys franchise in terms of making money, popularity and pop culture will be fine. This couldn’t be further from the truth. The cowboys haven’t won in 30 years and still dominate from a $ perspective.
 

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And it’s only an embarrassment to Jethro and fans who had bought into the hype for this team to go deeper in the playoffs.

The division and 2 seed was gifted to us by default from the Egirls collapsing .

The second best team in NFC won last night.
 

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I started watching in 1977 . 46 years . I’ve seen or heard every snap on TV or radio before the satellite era and every snap since . Unequivocally this was by miles and miles the worst loss . It was literally climbing and putting a big flag on choke mountain . The only reason the Jackie Smith drop and Dez Catch hurt more was because I felt it robbed us of a Super Bowl win but this one was not only disgusting but also comical, it’s in its own category . A loss so bad it felt like the players threw the game . The single most unprepared team I’ve ever seen in post season all teams all eras.
According to Einstein the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result .
Jerry Jones will prove himself insane again this off season.
 

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Jerry and family is the root of the problem and what makes things so depressing, as it is the one problem without a solution.
 

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The problem with the Cowboys is its core, not the outer layers.

Just replacing head coaches, coordinators, quarterbacks, running backs, receivers, etc. will not solve the core problem.

Even just replacing the Jerry-the-GM will not solve it, though it would definitely help.

This team needs to be rebuilt from its core with a new mindset and new philosophy.

The team needs a coach who will demand order and perfection from the players.

It needs players who care more about winning Super Bowls than they do podcasts, social media and product promotion.

Most importantly, it needs players that care little about their own stats and care everything about winning Super Bowls.

This team needs a coach who is smart enough to trade star players who cannot help this team win a Super Bowl right now for draft picks that can be turned into the star players who can help the Cowboys compete for multiple Super Bowls in the coming years.
Slam, bam, thank you mam...in the mean time I'm investing in popcorn and ear plugs. Terestrial physics can defeat the tush push although. Using the force of the ground. They start using force a split second before the defense. They then have the strength connected to the earth. The jumpers on the defense lose even that source of strength. It has to be defeated by an equally powerful ground supported force or outlawed.
 

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This is the only organization in the NFL that would still keep its GM after this colossal collapse. Name one team in the league that would keep the same 81 year old GM with a 4-10 play-off record since 2000.
And I’d just like to predict the return of the Dak fan boys on this forum selling it wasn’t Daks fault and pointing at his stat line.
 

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Jerry and family is the root of the problem and what makes things so depressing, as it is the one problem without a solution.
No, it is management and leadership issues. Then focus and accountability for all concepts...all.
 

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It's also wrong. Dallas has won THREE playoff games in Jerryworld...

Wild Card Sat January 5, 2019 Dallas 24, Seattle 22

Wild Card Sun January 4, 2015 Dallas 24, Detroit 20

Wild Card Sat January 9, 2010 Dallas 34, Philadelphia 14.

That's 3. Not that the point of Dallas being playoff chokers isn't a valid one, but GB having more playoff wins than Dallas in Jerryworld is flat out wrong.
Yep. I was wrong earlier. The Cowboys have won the same amount of games as the packers at our home stayjum. Still an embarrassment.
 

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The 1998 loss to the Cardinals was basically the same thing, getting blown out at home by a fringe playoff team.

And I think you’re crazy if you believe this loss hurts you or me as much as Jerry Jones. We all get to go back to our jobs, families and other hobbies after this. The Cowboys are his job, his hobby and the thing his entire family is centered around. Hes in the last decade or so of his life and the ONLY thing he cares about anymore is one more ring before he dies.

We may not agree with decisions he makes but you’re kidding yourself if you believe you will lose more sleep than Jerry over this. I certainly won’t I know that.
I don’t agree. It appears it’s about winning a ring but it really isn’t. It’s about radio shows and tv shows and injury updates and making hiring decisions for the head coach instead of letting them be independent . It’s about being the center of attention, if not he would have gotten a real GM who in turn would have gotten a real coach and not yes men that agree with him on everything. He’ll sleep like a baby knowing he has interviews scheduled and coming up.
 

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And I’d just like to predict the return of the Dak fan boys on this forum selling it wasn’t Daks fault and pointing at his stat line.
While Dak didn’t have a good game , he had a great season against bottom tier teams. Pretty much is what this team is all about.

Most of my hopes this season revolved around having a better defense. Which was worse than our offense and QB giving up 7 TD’s in Packers first 8 possessions.

We had no chance of a comeback cause we had no answer on defense. Pitiful !!
 

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Yep. I was wrong earlier. The Cowboys have won the same amount of games as the packers at our home stayjum. Still an embarrassment.
And Green Bay has won more playoff wins (3) at our stadium than we have.
 

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And I’d just like to predict the return of the Dak fan boys on this forum selling it wasn’t Daks fault and pointing at his stat line.
Dak was terrible yesterday. Being 2-5 is reality. And Dak will be back next year because this front office is completely incapable of rebuilding.
 

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Jerry and family is the root of the problem and what makes things so depressing, as it is the one problem without a solution.
It’s not the family. The Jones family are great people and could be great owners.

It is the level of involvement in football operations and player relationships that is the problem. They have created an environment of soft opulence that does not breed toughness. Until there is a line between ownership and football operations , nothing will change.
 

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Is it he’s not bothered enough by it, or he just doesn’t know how?

Too many on this board mistake incompetence for indifference. And it matters because that mistake takes a dislike over personnel decisions to a visceral hatred of another human.

I don’t like a lot of what Jerry has done these last 30 years. There are many on this board who would, very literally, smother him in his sleep if they had the opportunity. I don’t believe that is hyperbole. And it’s because they believe all he cares about is money and spends his days laughing at the fans who care about the product on the field than he does.
You’re defending the indefensible. if he cared so much about a superbowl he would have hired a real GM and let him be independent . Read the comment below. I truly believe it .I can’t say it better.
Jerry cares about one thing. Self aggrandizement. If he was guaranteed a super bowl win w/ no credit for himself, he'd turn it down.
 
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