Dallas Cowboys state of the union

[Diehardblues]

Which brings us right back to the premise of this thread and the usual off-season strategy that simply isn’t working. If they want to beat a team like the niners then try to keep up with how they operate in the offseason. The good teams will be making moves while these morons do everything they can to resign their own guys and then scour the bargain bin.

I agree. I just don’t think we are capable of keeping up with much finer ran teams like SF.

 

[CTcowboy203]

And you expect this dysfunctional ownership capable or even willing to make those shrewd moves necessary?

I agree we are hyped cause we are the Cowboys. But we haven’t always had an owner and GM which led the way over hyping his team. This leads fans to following this toxic path .

I’m not a hate Jerry and blame him for everything guy, I think the moves the team needs to make are pretty obvious ones, that even him and Stephen can accomplish. I said shrewd by definition because they would be going against the grain of what the team has done traditionally in free agency and trades the last decade or so but still aren’t “outside the box” moves for the average franchise.

So am I confident they do them? No, I’m not. I think they could easily and it doesn’t take splitting the atom to figure them out- just look at our needs and the type of players who could be gettable and attempt to acquire them. That’s why I said ultimately this era could go down as a waste because whether you wanna define it as strategy, luck, or blind faith the team is within striking distance of being a contender and I don’t think they’ll make the moves needed to bridge the gap.

 

[Diehardblues]

If I had any faith at all that Jerry would actually build on those 3rd or 4th best teams then I would agree with you. Being the 3rd or 4th best team isn't a waste, but it does become a waste if you don't ever strive for more which is exactly what we've seen in recent years. Being the Cowboys or Steelers of the league is not a great place to be...especially when we are losing more talent than we are adding, which I hope isn't the case this offseason, but it seems to be where we are headed.

I wouldn’t say they aren’t trying. Im just not sure they know how to get there. Shoot, they often don’t even see what our weaknesses are until it’s entirely too late.

 

[thunderpimp91]

Which brings us right back to the premise of this thread and the usual off-season strategy that simply isn’t working. If they want to beat a team like the niners then try to keep up with how they operate in the offseason. The good teams will be making moves while these morons do everything they can to resign their own guys and then scour the bargain bin.

Spot on. I would rather them try a different formula and see worse results than run it back and get bounced in the wild card round again.

 

[Diehardblues]

I’m not a hate Jerry and blame him for everything guy, I think the moves the team needs to make are pretty obvious ones, that even him and Stephen can accomplish. I said shrewd by definition because they would be going against the grain of what the team has done traditionally in free agency and trades the last decade or so but still aren’t “outside the box” moves for the average franchise.

So am I confident they do them? No, I’m not. I think they could easily and it doesn’t take splitting the atom to figure them out- just look at our needs and the type of players who could be gettable and attempt to acquire them. That’s why I said ultimately this era could go down as a waste because whether you wanna define it as strategy, luck, or blind faith the team is within striking distance of being a contender and I don’t think they’ll make the moves needed to bridge the gap.

I guess that’s where we are sharply divided . I’m not sold this team is on the same or close level playing field of a SF, Buffalo or a KC for example .

And I’m not sure our ownership and FO is smart enough to make the moves to catch up.

 

[America's Cowboy]

While our priorities are out of whack with our dysfunctional ownership to be fair you really shouldn’t totally shake up a playoff contender with 3 straight 12 win seasons.

Yes, we are very disappointed and frustrated by the early playoff exits or choke jobs, however you want to describe it, but this is one of the best teams these idiots have put together this era and isn’t really qualified or has history of totally starting over not to stay the course.

With our situation this is probably best direction to go. Hang on to core of your playoff team and try to build upon it best you can. A few tweaks, edits and new additions . When it bottoms out then you start over or shake it up.

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100% spot on, G!

 

[Diehardblues]

Spot on. I would rather them try a different formula and see worse results than run it back and get bounced in the wild card round again.

For the sake of argument .

If we aren’t able to see our weaknesses before they occur like many can and or able to always select in draft the proper positions or talent to fill those needs how would we be able to rebuild or start over .

I’d give a dysfunctional GM much more chance to add to a playoff caliber team than completely starting over .

 

[thunderpimp91]

For the sake of argument .

If we aren’t able to see our weaknesses before they occur like many can and or able to always select in draft the proper positions or talent to fill those needs how would we be able to rebuild or start over .

I’d give a dysfunctional GM much more chance to add to a playoff caliber team than completely starting over .

I think they see the weaknesses, I think Jerry has just been more committed to being consistently in the playoff mix rather than willing to actually take a risk that may negatively effect the future. Everyone knew we needed a linebacker last season, but the only time Jerry was willing to make a move was when Shaq Leonard would come to us at league minimum. Year prior everyone could see we needed another receiver. They tried for OBJ, and passed on Cooks because of the price. They ended up dealing for Cooks after the season when the price went down. Instead they hope they can find bargain bin fixes and pray that guys like LVE and Tyron Smith stay healthy.

I think a huge part of that comes back to them not noticing the issues, but have been committed to resigning our own players, and continuing to build through the draft. Neither of those things are problematic in my mind until you're so committed that it prevents you from making moves to put your team over the top when its really needed.

I look at this current situation this offseason and just don't see a path to actually adding talent, especially if you can't get Dak extended as soon as possible. I'm typically about the most optimistic fan you'll see, but there are just too many holes right now in this roster. I'm pro rebuild now because I think you have a unique ability to rebuild quickly by both shedding salary and flipping a couple of players for draft capital while still keeping some high end talent on the roster. Taking the medicine in 2024 and getting a reset could put you in a position to truly contend in 2025 and beyond.

To me I would just like to see them try something new. I would rather them take the risk of imploding with a new methodology rather than run the same stuff back and take a pretty good team with a few band aid fixes that Jerry tells us are fine get bounded in the wild card round.

 

[rambo2]

They aren’t expected to be active in FA. No marquee signings anyway.

Don't they have to sign at least around 5 or more free agents to field a team? I haven't done the math, but it seems like they will have to sign some.

 

[rambo2]

For the sake of argument .

If we aren’t able to see our weaknesses before they occur like many can and or able to always select in draft the proper positions or talent to fill those needs how would we be able to rebuild or start over .

I’d give a dysfunctional GM much more chance to add to a playoff caliber team than completely starting over .

Is he really dysfunctional? You don't see anybody else in the NFC winning 12 games three years in a row.

 

[75boyz]

I think they see the weaknesses, I think Jerry has just been more committed to being consistently in the playoff mix rather than willing to actually take a risk that may negatively effect the future. Everyone knew we needed a linebacker last season, but the only time Jerry was willing to make a move was when Shaq Leonard would come to us at league minimum. Year prior everyone could see we needed another receiver. They tried for OBJ, and passed on Cooks because of the price. They ended up dealing for Cooks after the season when the price went down. Instead they hope they can find bargain bin fixes and pray that guys like LVE and Tyron Smith stay healthy.

I think a huge part of that comes back to them not noticing the issues, but have been committed to resigning our own players, and continuing to build through the draft. Neither of those things are problematic in my mind until you're so committed that it prevents you from making moves to put your team over the top when its really needed.

I look at this current situation this offseason and just don't see a path to actually adding talent, especially if you can't get Dak extended as soon as possible. I'm typically about the most optimistic fan you'll see, but there are just too many holes right now in this roster. I'm pro rebuild now because I think you have a unique ability to rebuild quickly by both shedding salary and flipping a couple of players for draft capital while still keeping some high end talent on the roster. Taking the medicine in 2024 and getting a reset could put you in a position to truly contend in 2025 and beyond.

To me I would just like to see them try something new. I would rather them take the risk of imploding with a new methodology rather than run the same stuff back and take a pretty good team with a few band aid fixes that Jerry tells us are fine get bounded in the wild card round.

Great post.

 

[CTcowboy203]

I guess that’s where we are sharply divided . I’m not sold this team is on the same or close level playing field of a SF, Buffalo or a KC for example .

And I’m not sure our ownership and FO is smart enough to make the moves to catch up.

I said they aren’t. They could be. But aren’t

 

[fivetwos]

They need someone similar to a Sean Payton or Jim Harbaugh to come in here and be the guy, and run the entire show, and rebuild the whole deal, the most important part being finding the next QB.

It’s going to take a long while and a lot of pain to ever get to that point.

With much of the league doing rebuilding properly, there will always be enough bad teams to beat up on to keep us in mediocrity for the foreseeable future.

I can’t actually sit here and wish for the Giants or Washington to greatly improve, but it may be the best thing overall with regard to the possibility of real change at the top.

I just….cannot wrap my head around how these two don’t see the way they do things as being detrimental or problematic.

It’s not just fans saying it. Former star players do also. It’s met with nothing but denial and refusal to change.

How is that supposed to spark hope?

 

[rambo2]

They need someone similar to a Sean Payton or Jim Harbaugh to come in here and be the guy, and run the entire show, and rebuild the whole deal, the most important part being finding the next QB.

It’s going to take a long while and a lot of pain to ever get to that point.

With much of the league doing rebuilding properly, there will always be enough bad teams to beat up on to keep us in mediocrity for the foreseeable future.

I can’t actually sit here and wish for the Giants or Washington to greatly improve, but it may be the best thing overall with regard to the possibility of real change at the top.

I just….cannot wrap my head around how these two don’t see the way they do things as being detrimental or problematic.

It’s not just fans saying it. Former star players do also. It’s met with nothing but denial and refusal to change.

How is that supposed to spark hope?

Sean Payton is putting Denver in a bad place.

 

[Rockport]

While our priorities are out of whack with our dysfunctional ownership to be fair you really shouldn’t totally shake up a playoff contender with 3 straight 12 win seasons.

Yes, we are very disappointed and frustrated by the early playoff exits or choke jobs, however you want to describe it, but this is one of the best teams these idiots have put together this era and isn’t really qualified or has history of totally starting over not to stay the course.

With our situation this is probably best direction to go. Hang on to core of your playoff team and try to build upon it best you can. A few tweaks, edits and new additions . When it bottoms out then you start over or shake it up.

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Agree 100%. They’re just a few players away. Zimmer’s going to figure out how to stop the run. Now, fix the offensive running game and this team can compete with anyone. Next week starts an exciting time and we’ll start seeing how they’re going to address those issues.

 

[75boyz]

They need someone similar to a Sean Payton or Jim Harbaugh to come in here and be the guy, and run the entire show, and rebuild the whole deal, the most important part being finding the next QB.

It’s going to take a long while and a lot of pain to ever get to that point.

With much of the league doing rebuilding properly, there will always be enough bad teams to beat up on to keep us in mediocrity for the foreseeable future.

I can’t actually sit here and wish for the Giants or Washington to greatly improve, but it may be the best thing overall with regard to the possibility of real change at the top.

I just….cannot wrap my head around how these two don’t see the way they do things as being detrimental or problematic.

It’s not just fans saying it. Former star players do also. It’s met with nothing but denial and refusal to change.

How is that supposed to spark hope?

Your first paragraph is the only answer going forward.
Great job again.
You're killing it today, lol

 

[fivetwos]

Sean Payton is putting Denver in a bad place.

Yeah and Jerry and his kid are taking us to the promised land.

 

[rambo2]

Yeah and Jerry and his kid are taking us to the promised land.

They are doing a lot better than Denver.

 

[shabazz]

Like Dalton Schultz just said, " the place is a freaking circus, dude"

 

[Diehardblues]

Is he really dysfunctional? You don't see anybody else in the NFC winning 12 games three years in a row.

No doubt last 3 seasons are some of the better years this era but dysfunctional better describes the entire scope of how football operations are conducted with the Cowboys.