Dak ain't going anywhere

[Chasing6]

It makes no sense to resign him right now. That time was before the 13th if they wanted to create space. They completely missed the boat on free agency and if they do give him a deal it would be a typical moronic move from this front office. Make him a June 1st cut and move the hell on already. He’s not worth the money. It’s really time to end this charade.

Hahaha

 

[Chasing6]

And you believe this is what Jethro will do?

This thread isn’t about what I think we should or shouldn’t do . It’s what we think our owner will do.

Resign him now or later it is the same result.
So what is the point?

The leverage does not shift at all to Jerry by waiting. You could argue it gets worse.

This is just Jerry's way of pissing and moaning that he is bent over a barrel.

If I am Dak and I see the moves GM Jeruh made this year(NONE) and I want to win, why would I want to resign and stay in Dallas?

What if a team like the Bears, does not draft a QB. They trade back, get multiple picks to build their team waiting for Dak to be a free agent next year.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Dak does not have to go anywhere....he lives in the heads of so many hangry cowboy fans.

 

[Diehardblues]

Resign him now or later it is the same result.
So what is the point?

The leverage does not shift at all to Jerry by waiting. You could argue it gets worse.

This is just Jerry's way of pissing and moaning that he is bent over a barrel.

If I am Dak and I see the moves GM Jeruh made this year(NONE) and I want to win, why would I want to resign and stay in Dallas?

What if a team like the Bears, does not draft a QB. They trade back, get multiple picks to build their team waiting for Dak to be a free agent next year.

Good questions;

Jethro is always playing public perception. He knows over paying Dak with a Market Price contract he’ll be bashed for. And Dak too.

The closer it gets to the season less time everyone can use those talking points before season begins which just serve as distractions.

And the leverage Jethro gains by waiting is Dak would prefer not going into season without a contract. Now whether that incentivizing into taking a little less, probably not , but perception could be at least Jethro held out as long as he could before caving in much like when he continued franchise tagging him. Your bent over a barrel is accurate.

I think Dak would prefer staying in Dallas. He has some comfortability established here with a fanbase and expectations with our dysfunctional ownership isn’t as high. And no one else probably willing to pay him as much.

 

[Chasing6]

Good questions;

Jethro is always playing public perception. He knows over paying Dak with a Market Price contract he’ll be bashed for. And Dak too.

The closer it gets to the season less time everyone can use those talking points before season begins which just serve as distractions.

And the leverage Jethro gains by waiting is Dak would prefer not going into season without a contract. Now whether that incentivizing into taking a little less, probably not , but perception could be at least Jethro held out as long as he could before caving in much like when he continued franchise tagging him. Your bent over a barrel is accurate.

I think Dak would prefer staying in Dallas. He has some comfortability established here with a fanbase and expectations with our dysfunctional ownership isn’t as high. And no one else probably willing to pay him as much.

Well Dak has no idea who his coaches will be next year. A new offense to learn with an entirely new coaching staff.

So he has some things to consider himself. He has to be disappointed with free agency and not improving the roster to make a deep run in the playoffs. As of today we have a significantly weaker team. Time will tell, but GM Jeruh is in no rush to free up money.

So if you are Dak, and if you had the option to keep playing for GM Jeruh, or test the market and see what teams are interested, what would you do?

Jerry dragging this out and intentionally not improving the team has to be a frustrating factor for Dak to consider.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

I think Jerry will still be making all the important Cowboys’ decisions, even after he is dead.

 

[Captain-Crash]

Well Dak has no idea who his coaches will be next year. A new offense to learn with an entirely new coaching staff.

So he has some things to consider himself. He has to be disappointed with free agency and not improving the roster to make a deep run in the playoffs. As of today we have a significantly weaker team. Time will tell, but GM Jeruh is in no rush to free up money.

So if you are Dak, and if you had the option to keep playing for GM Jeruh, or test the market and see what teams are interested, what would you do?

Jerry dragging this out and intentionally not improving the team has to be a frustrating factor for Dak to consider.

yeah, daks the man. If he goes to another team I know you and I will go there to watch and pull for him. I just hope it's not to a team with a backup.

 

[ErikWilliamsHeadSlap]

And or he’s resigned or extended by September. The option most likely with our ownership.

This is what happens when you are too afraid to face your fears.

 

[Captain-Crash]

This is what happens when you are too afraid to face your fears.

We're just afraid dak will be gone and I'd hate to stop wearing my dak jersey. right now I wear it every day, it's starting to turn gray but I love dak. Why can't they cut daks backup? dak doesn't need any pressure.

 

[ErikWilliamsHeadSlap]

If JJ fully intends to resign Dak, it makes no sense to drag it out until camp.

Neither financially, nor team dynamic wise.

You don't play games like that unless you have a reason to.

It makes perfect sense if you were never intending to spend in FA. Fans are angry enough. Imagine extending Dak before Mar 13th and still not signing/re-signing anyone? They are prepping for the dead money. D-Law, Martin are near the end of the same road that Zeke, Tyron and Gallup travelled. all we can hope for, is that during the Diggs/Lamb/Micah/Tyler cycle, they use FA as a way of adding proper talent as well as the draft.

 

[Brooksey]

I understand all of the naysayers will continue to call for his ousting and say it’s over but they are in for a rude awakening by the beginning of the season. I’m not here to promote either side but rather state why it’s going a certain way.

The fact Jethro just came out and said there probably wouldn’t be a deal done until Camp or preseason supports what I’ve said from the beginning .

This was basically Option 2 in a thread I posted earlier in the week in why there wouldn't be a deal done by March 13th which also supported my notion we wouldn't be very active in FA.

Waiting until closer to the beginning of season provides Jethro and the Cowboys more leverage. Dak doesn’t want to go into the season without a deal as injuries , poor performance , another playoff disappointment, etc could impact his value in FA.

My instincts have been spot on so far because I have better insights into our owner and his agendas . Jethro has no intentions to move on without Dak. He’s still All In. But this is basically the only leverage he has holding out until the waning hours before the regular season begins.

He knows he’s going to be ripped for caving in to a Market Price type extension and the closer he can push into the beginning of regular season the less time his and Daks opponents have to bash him and Dak before season begins.

It’s his way of attempting to control the narrative in the media which pushing it back is a better storyline for him than caving in. It provides a talking point for those against a resigning that there’s hope.

Signing a post season choke artist, for a record amount of money, for a guy who is 81 is not guaranteed and that was before the the lawsuit.
There were some here that said it was "Guaranteed" he would be signed by 3/13 too, they were wrong about that but can't admit it, they hide real well.

The odds are he will sign, but it is far from guaranteed.

 

[JBS]

I understand all of the naysayers will continue to call for his ousting and say it’s over but they are in for a rude awakening by the beginning of the season. I’m not here to promote either side but rather state why it’s going a certain way.

The fact Jethro just came out and said there probably wouldn’t be a deal done until Camp or preseason supports what I’ve said from the beginning .

This was basically Option 2 in a thread I posted earlier in the week in why there wouldn't be a deal done by March 13th which also supported my notion we wouldn't be very active in FA.

Waiting until closer to the beginning of season provides Jethro and the Cowboys more leverage. Dak doesn’t want to go into the season without a deal as injuries , poor performance , another playoff disappointment, etc could impact his value in FA.

My instincts have been spot on so far because I have better insights into our owner and his agendas . Jethro has no intentions to move on without Dak. He’s still All In. But this is basically the only leverage he has holding out until the waning hours before the regular season begins.

He knows he’s going to be ripped for caving in to a Market Price type extension and the closer he can push into the beginning of regular season the less time his and Daks opponents have to bash him and Dak before season begins.

It’s his way of attempting to control the narrative in the media which pushing it back is a better storyline for him than caving in. It provides a talking point for those against a resigning that there’s hope.

You’ve been proven right my arse. Nothing has happened. Signing Dak in training camp is the stupidest decision of them all. Doesn’t mean they won’t do it. But it’s absolutely the worst timing possible. And until then, nothing you have said is proven right.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

You’ve been proven right my arse. Nothing has happened. Signing Dak in training camp is the stupidest decision of them all. Doesn’t mean they won’t do it. But it’s absolutely the worst timing possible. And until then, nothing you have said is proven right.

 

[CowboyoWales]

Resign him now or later it is the same result.
So what is the point?

The leverage does not shift at all to Jerry by waiting. You could argue it gets worse.

This is just Jerry's way of pissing and moaning that he is bent over a barrel.

If I am Dak and I see the moves GM Jeruh made this year(NONE) and I want to win, why would I want to resign and stay in Dallas?

What if a team like the Bears, does not draft a QB. They trade back, get multiple picks to build their team waiting for Dak to be a free agent next year.

But with that comment you've just inadvertently supported the theory that the Non-Activity this off-season's a plan to get Dak to ok a trade.

So if we play your Bears scenario a stage further....Cowboys go BPA in draft (maybe to sure up the Defensive line) and give Dak an O-Line of Tyler/Bass/Hoffman/Martin/Steele and a 3rd RD running back. Then Dak's got a health and safety consideration (as well as the optics as he goes down with the Cowboys).

 

[DZSierra]

Didn't read the entire thread so if it's been stated, apologies.

Also, please don't crucify me for giving my opinion... LOL

Don't claim to be a football GM, but common sense tells me it seems that delaying the inevitable doesn't accomplish anything, particularly if you know what you are planning to do (I'm guessing planning is a part of the job running a football team).

Over the last decade, I've come to admire what Roseman has done with our rivals. It seems that they have a plan, and if that plan isn't working out, they rip the bandaid off, cut their losses and move on. You would think sooner or later it would catch up to you, but so far it hasn't with them. I mean after the dumpster fire with Wentz, they still made it to the SB and then they end up letting the coach go a couple of years later.

I have no clue how our rival plays their their own money, but it's been mentioned here before that for whatever reason, it seems like Dallas doesn't play with their salary cap and arrange contracts like other teams do to actually go out and spend money on multiple players that you believe will improve the team.

I understand that if you get highly paid prima donnas that you run the risk of friction within the team, but sometimes a little friction can be a good thing. One reason why I'll always admire Aikmannot only for his play is that one video of him going off on the sidelines basically stating that no one has any balls to win.

There seems to be a low level cloud of dsyfuntion on the cowboys team that always enables the team to shoot itself in the foot over the last couple of decades.

In some aspects I can appreciate Jerry's sense of loyalty (what it appears to be) to his team and players, but at the end of the day, the game is a business and nothing more. Jason Garret being a prime example of a coach that stayed with the team way to long IMO.

The Jone's HAVE to have a plan with Dak, but I don't think anyone can claim to know at this point whats inside Jerry's mind.

That said, one could argue with where Dallas has been in the standings over the 3 years has been darn good. Out of curiosity, one could argue Jerry's "meathod" works as over the last 7 years since the dumpster fire of Wentz, as both Rosemans team and Jerry's team has almost identical records.

 

[Flamma]

Flip the switch? You mean not taking high risk in FA.

Probably cause he wasn’t doing well with it this era. Maybe Stephen convinced him to just say no.

That doesn’t mean Stephen took over. Maybe Jethro thought he’s had a good enough team didn’t need a big splash from FA.

And it’s not like they haven’t had any activity in FA in recent years. Just not taking as big of risk which probably reverts back to my above reasoning .

Right, he made mistakes. But he made good moves too. We don't see that 2007 team without Jerry being aggressive in getting T.O. He went and got Deion. Those were not bad moves. But how do you go from that to turning it off altogether?

I think you're probably right that his son influenced him. But what difference does it make if he's taking his son's advice, or giving control to his son? None. The results are the same.

Jerry isn't not making splash moves because he thinks his team is good enough. Because then that would mean he would make splash moves when he didn't think his team was good enough. But he hasn't done that for the last 10-12 years. They are willingly handicapping themselves.

 

[DuncanIso]

Right, he made mistakes. But he made good moves too. We don't see that 2007 team without Jerry being aggressive in getting T.O. He went and got Deion. Those were not bad moves. But how do you go from that to turning it off altogether?

I think you're probably right that his son influenced him. But what difference does it make if he's taking his son's advice, or giving control to his son? None. The results are the same.

Jerry isn't not making splash moves because he thinks his team is good enough. Because then that would mean he would make splash moves when he didn't think his team was good enough. But he hasn't done that for the last 10-12 years. They are willingly handicapping themselves.

Dak humbled Jerry in front of Millions of fans in that playoff loss.

Dude ain't giving him anymore $$$ than he has to.

 

[starfan1]

Dak humbled Jerry in front of Millions of fans in that playoff loss.

Dude ain't giving him anymore $$$ than he has to.

LOl you folks are all the same. I personally dont care if dak gets paid or not. If he still is going to then waiting this long for the extension was stupid but it isnt the first stupid thing this FO has done. I wasnt aware that dak plays defense though with your dak humbled jerry BS. The entire team didnt show up and that includes Dak

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

LOl you folks are all the same. I personally dont care if dak gets paid or not. If he still is going to then waiting this long for the extension was stupid but it isnt the first stupid thing this FO has done. I wasnt aware that dak plays defense though with your dak humbled jerry BS. The entire team didnt show up and that includes Dak

In all fairness....as much as we've been buried in dak threads....this IS still a dak thread. Not a this defense sucks and humbled jerry thread.

As i have said before....we shouldnt have to rip the rest of the team in preface before ripping dak. And just because someone rips dak we shouldnt assume they love the rest of the team.

Its tough being top dog....gotta take the heat as easy as cashing big checks.

 

[kskboys]

Yea, I want to learn more about our Advisory Board. Anybody else on this Board but Jimmy?

Is this a paid position. Does Jimmy actually have an office at the Star? Or does Jethro just call or text Jimmy if he has a question or needs advice. I’d really like more details.

Yup. And that's what it all hinges on. Hey, Jimmy may be nothing more than a figurehead, but we have no idea at this point.