Twitter: Comparing Cowboys off-season talent losses vs additions

[Bobhaze]

The problem is the Dallas Cowboys are a draft and development team. They have been that way since Garrett became head coach. In the Joneses mind that works best. To them 36 wins in three seasons is the proof. Unless the Cowboys somehow finish 5-12 without a major injury to the big 4, the strategy won’t change. I have said it before MM, Dak, CeeDee, and Parsons will not let this team collapse.

I understand the “draft and develop” philosophy. It has some merit. But going back to the Garrett era through 2023, that same philosophy has given us 3 wild card wins in 13 seasons. Why does that philosophy still enamor this front office when it continues to give us underwhelming post season results?

Yeah, I get the 36 regular season wins in three years thing. But those 36 regular season wins got us one wild card playoff win in three playoff seasons. That’s not a pattern worth “running back” in my mind.

 

[rambo2]

I can’t imagine why

He is like you. He probably was freaking out about the kicker last year just like a lot of people.

 

[rambo2]

I understand the “draft and develop” philosophy. It has some merit. But going back to the Garrett era through 2023, that same philosophy has given us 3 wild card wins in 13 seasons. Why does that philosophy still enamor this front office when it continues to give us underwhelming post season results?

Yeah, I get the 36 regular season wins in three years thing. But those 36 regular season wins got us one wild card playoff win in three playoff seasons. That’s not a pattern worth “running back” in my mind.

Maybe, just maybe, they string some playoff wins together this year. Then you can give us an update.

 

[shabazz]

That is a huge loss of talent. In fact, it’s a loss of 8 starters. When you look at the loss of talent we’ve had this off-season vs the guys we either resigned or added in free agency, the draft sets up to be the highest stakes draft I have ever seen in Dallas.

Frankly, there‘s no way this team can be competitive in 2024 without either:

1. Hitting a home run with the draft, gaining at least 2-3 starters with immediate positive impact.
2. Have a really good draft coupled with some cheap but impactful free agents that contribute immediately.

If we’re being honest, is there a front office in the entire NFL that could pull that off? Certainly not in Dallas.

The Bills are doing their own version of the Dallas sell-off

It may be a matter of teams like the Bills and Cowboys "topping out" with their rosters at an all time best.

Or in other words, we couldn't succeed with this current roster core so wholesale changes MUST be made......even if it means swallowing 30 million in dead money for Diggs or 55 for Dakota

 

[Creeper]

The only addition is Kendricks. The re-signs are not really additions. The losses, in terms of playing times and contributions are huge.

I get that they think Sam Williams will make up for the loss of Armstrong, but can Williams get more playing time without more bonehead mistakes?

And they are depending on Mazi, but is that really realistic?

The simple fact is they lost players and did not replace them, and will not replace them with players who are as good or better than what they lost. How do we know this? Because Jerry will not pay for good players. He will pay vet minimums on 1 years deal to players who are already washed up or will be by the time the regular season starts.

And the draft may provide 1 maybe 2 starters, and even then they will have minimal impact.

Set your expectations now. We are in for a difficult season in 2024. I expect 4 maybe 5 blowouts coming in 2024.

 

[rambo2]

The Bills are doing their own version of the Dallas sell-off

It may be a matter of teams like the Bills and Cowboys "topping out" with their rosters at an all time best.

Or in other words, we couldn't succeed with this current roster core so wholesale changes MUST be made......even if it means swallowing 30 million in dead money for Diggs or 55 for Dakota

The Bills can get cheap receivers in the draft that aren't on social media making problems.

 

[shabazz]

The Bills can get cheap receivers in the draft that aren't on social media making problems.

You should have educated the Texans on how easy it is to draft a Top 5 receiver......you could have saved them a 2nd round draft pick.

 

[baltcowboy]

I understand the “draft and develop” philosophy. It has some merit. But going back to the Garrett era through 2023, that same philosophy has given us 3 wild card wins in 13 seasons. Why does that philosophy still enamor this front office when it continues to give us underwhelming post season results?

Yeah, I get the 36 regular season wins in three years thing. But those 36 regular season wins got us one wild card playoff win in three playoff seasons. That’s not a pattern worth “running back” in my mind.

I think we are in agreement. Playoff success for the Cowboys has been non existent since the 90s. I was 23 years old the last time the Cowboys won the Super Bowl The more I think about it, the more I see Jerry as the Flim Flam Man or Con artist. The Cowboys have not made it past the divisional rounds in almost 30 years. Cowboys are still the best draw in the world. How is that possible?

 

[plasticman]

I’ve come to the conclusion that either we are tanking 2024 or our FO is completely inept. Signing Edoga and this tweet putting in black and white what we have lost vs what we kept/gained makes me feel we are tanking in March or there is absolutely no plan in place at all.

I doubt they have the skill to tank a season even if they wanted to. Unfortunately, this is them trying to win games. It's pathetic, they have no plan, no system, no leadership, no identity.....

 

[rambo2]

You should have educated the Texans on how easy it is to draft a Top 5 receiver......you could have saved them a 2nd round draft pick.

This draft is historically good for receivers. Brian Thomas may have been available at 23. I don't know what their plans are, but there will be some good ones available at 42.

 

[shabazz]

This draft is historically good for receivers. Brian Thomas may have been available at 23. I don't know what their plans are, but there will be some good ones available at 42.

As long as there's a tight end available at our 24th spot, we'll be right as rain

 

[CWR]

He is really getting doom and gloom.

It's literally a post of who we signed and who we lost.

There's no opinion or slant to it.

I do agree though, it looks terrible and is worthy of doom and gloom.

 

[stiletto]

Maybe, just maybe, they string some playoff wins together this year. Then you can give us an update.

Maybe, just maybe I'll win the lottery Saturday and give you an update.

 

[jazzcat22]

Because one addition didn’t screw up our max 4 comp picks allowed in 2025.

That gives us 11 picks for 2025, unless any stupid trades happen. As they usually will trade 5th in the next draft for a 6th in the current draft.

Anyway, 11 picks they can move around much easier.
If the season goes as most are predicting we will pick in the middle of the pack. So better player(s) available in the 1st round that can be impact players.

 

[rambo2]

It's literally a post of who we signed and who we lost.

There's no opinion or slant to it.

I do agree though, it looks terrible and is worthy of doom and gloom.

I'm not talking about that post. I'm talking about him. I listened to his podcast last night.

 

[75boyz]

I understand the “draft and develop” philosophy. It has some merit. But going back to the Garrett era through 2023, that same philosophy has given us 3 wild card wins in 13 seasons. Why does that philosophy still enamor this front office when it continues to give us underwhelming post season results?

Yeah, I get the 36 regular season wins in three years thing. But those 36 regular season wins got us one wild card playoff win in three playoff seasons. That’s not a pattern worth “running back” in my mind.

Exactly. And its a little tiresome that this has to be explained to cousin rambo2 Jones over and over and over.
It's like the whole ultimate goal of postseason success is ignored on purpose. OR he is in fact a Jones, which may be the case honestly.

The regular season banners and Forbes trophies are plenty good to satisfy.

Its just so pathetic that some are satisfied with it.

 

[gimmesix]

Why did we even bother signing our lone outsider? One little blip on our "we like our guys" radar.

Because this front office is delusional. They actually think we can win if they just hold on to a few specific players. The others around them don't really matter.

While fans think that what we've done or haven't done means we're not trying to win, but if that were the case, the Joneses would not have added Kendricks. No reason to make that move if you don't think you are going to be competitive. They are delusional enough to think they can with what they've done. But they've been delusional for almost 30 years now, so no reason to expect that to change now.

 

[BigD_95]

We shall see, I think a very very ACTIVE draft to get talent would make us fans a bit happier

The only ones that will really hurt is Tyron Smith & LVE and we addressed LVE loss.

Hankins, Armstrong, Fowler, Biadasz, & Gallimore, we should be able to replace and are just ok players.

Pollard was garbage last year. We could bring back Emmitt Smith and get better production. Same with Gallup.

It's not as bad as you think. They will still bring in some vets after the draft.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

That is a huge loss of talent. In fact, it’s a loss of 8 starters.

Fwiw, they listed Hankins twice

Tyron Smith, LT (Jets)...will probably be replaced by Tyler Smith, which means we need a guard on day 1 or 2
Tony Pollard, RB (Titans)...I really don't like the idea of drafting a RB in round 2, but we probably will
Johnathan Hankins, DT (Seahawks)...He was solid, but I'm ready for Mazi Smith to take his place. Still need depth here though
Dorance Armstrong, DE (Commanders)...Also ready for Sam Williams to take his place, but not signing a vet to relieve snaps was a horrible mistake
Tyler Biadasz, C (Commanders)...We were all ready to move on imo, but this makes the position a huge need
Michael Gallup, WR (released)...Ready for KaVontae Turpin to get his snaps, he was better last year and I don't think this is a loss at all
Leighton Vander Esch, LB (released) Eric Kendricks is significantly better

I see LT (or LG), RB and C as areas that we aren't as good. The other areas, I think we're better. DE is a push if we can get some depth there

 

[CWR]

I'm not talking about that post. I'm talking about him. I listened to his podcast last night.

I get it, but it is humorous because I see his post as negative. That's probably because it is, given the context of our situation. I'm having a difficult time expecting improvement based on what I've seen this far. It looks like status quo