NFL Authorizes In-Game Use of Guardian Caps on Players' Helmets for 2024 Season

[jwitten82]

that says alot

Not really, these players get paid millions to play a game. I watch this game for entertainment, not to see a bunch of bobble heads on the field.

 

[jwitten82]

So you're for flag football then. In fact, you're for deciding these games on Madden so we're not risking any injuries whatsoever. That will certainly improve long-term health.

Football isn't a game for you.

This move by the league is pushing off the inevitable, when your ilk is successful at making toxic tackle football illegal altogether.

Exactly, when does this stop? The safest thing to prevent head injuries is too take tackling completely out the game. Who would want that?
Als, why couldn't they experiment with using the UFL first?

 

[RoboQB]

Expecting a zero-sum on head injuries is absurd.
It's a physical sport. Those types of injuries are currently lower than ever before.
This "shell" isn't doing squat. They barely have contact in practices. Only 14 practices a season are allowed to be in full gear. It's nonsense.

 

[DoctorChicken]

Not really, these players get paid millions to play a game. I watch this game for entertainment, not to see a bunch of bobble heads on the field.

So you’re saying the size of the helmet somehow impacts your enjoyment of the game?

 

[EST_1986]

Exactly, when does this stop? The safest thing to prevent head injuries is too take tackling completely out the game. Who would want that?
Als, why couldn't they experiment with using the UFL first?

the severity of brain damage is what determines your level of enjoyment?

 

[jwitten82]

the severity of brain damage is what determines your level of enjoyment?

Yes, you happy now?

 

[jwitten82]

So you’re saying the size of the helmet somehow impacts your enjoyment of the game?

Yes, its gonna be stupid looking seeinant sized helmets

 

[RoboQB]

Yes, its gonna be stupid looking seeinant sized helmets

Maybe they should put mascot "heads" on.
The Dallas Cowboys players would look like Rowdy...lol

I'd like to see the number of concussions in the NFL the past 3 years.

 

[jwitten82]

Yes, its gonna be stupid looking seeinant sized helmets

*giant

 

[Havic]

Actually the modern day helmet encourages harder hitting. If you've played organized football and sandlot football, you know the difference. You play way less aggressive without a helmet.

not necessarily less aggressive but definitely not leading with the head to make the play / reckless.

 

[Flamma]

not necessarily less aggressive but definitely not leading with the head to make the play / reckless.

We're nitpicking, but I'll agree with you. When I played organized football as a WR/DB, on defense I wouldn't think twice about lowering my head and going low to the knees. I'm not doing that without a helmet, even though my intention is to make contact with my shoulder. Whenever I played without a helmet, I think the lowest I'd dip my head was probably chest level. I wasn't taking anybody on at the legs.

 

[RoboQB]

We're nitpicking, but I'll agree with you. When I played organized football as a WR/DB, on defense I wouldn't think twice about lowering my head and going low to the knees. I'm not doing that without a helmet, even though my intention is to make contact with my shoulder. Whenever I played without a helmet, I think the lowest I'd dip my head was probably chest level. I wasn't taking anybody on at the legs.

Yep. Eyes up. Bury your shoulder into the runner's midsection. Put your head between him and where he wants to go. Wrap up just below the runner's rear end and drive thru him. Never had an injury teaching that method.

 

[csirl]

Expecting a zero-sum on head injuries is absurd.
It's a physical sport. Those types of injuries are currently lower than ever before.
This "shell" isn't doing squat. They barely have contact in practices. Only 14 practices a season are allowed to be in full gear. It's nonsense.

Only 14 contact practices a season leads to injuries due to poor conditioning and not practising enough to develop good timing and technique.

I remember doing 3 contact practises a week!

 

[JD_KaPow]

With all the rule changes on tackling, a head injury is practically non-existent. How many concussions were reported in the last 3 years? They stop games and pull players who appear to be "wobbly" after a play.
It's stupid and an overreaction.

Huh?

The number of concussions reported in the last three years was greater than the number reported in the prior three years. The 2018-2020 average was 130 per season (add in preseason and practices and the number goes over 200). From 2021-2023, the number was closer to 140 (last year, there were 219 when you include preseason and practice).

I have no idea what you've been watching if you think head injuries have become "practically non-existent."

 

[RoboQB]

Huh?

The number of concussions reported in the last three years was greater than the number reported in the prior three years. The 2018-2020 average was 130 per season (add in preseason and practices and the number goes over 200). From 2021-2023, the number was closer to 140 (last year, there were 219 when you include preseason and practice).

I have no idea what you've been watching if you think head injuries have become "practically non-existent."

Sounds like they've redefined what a concussion is.
I'm thinking more along the lines what happened to the Miami QB. (Who played the following week, by the way.)

Stopping play for a team doctor to take a look at a player
who gets his bell rung and seeing that player back on the field 1 or 2 plays later is not a concussion but gets counted as one in order to inflate numbers.

 

[jrumann59]

Wait eventually QB uniforms will look that, kind of a "bubble wrap" look,

 

[RoboQB]

If the alien's numbers are accurate, 7.6% of players suffer a concussion from the 90 player training camp to the Super Bowl. This, in a sport that has 22 players on the field at a time for 80+ plays per game. When reducing to numbers to the 53-man roster, it raises to a "whopping"
8.2%.

Frankly, the referees are in more danger of serious injury...lol

Players are more content to take themselves out for a play in these current times. Awareness is there. The NFL will never achieve a zero sum in head injuries. They may, however, ruin the game while attempting to do so.
(In some ways, they have already.)

 

[JD_KaPow]

Sounds like they've redefined what a concussion is.
I'm thinking more along the lines what happened to the Miami QB. (Who played the following week, by the way.)

Stopping play for a team doctor to take a look at a player
who gets his bell rung and seeing that player back on the field 1 or 2 plays later is not a concussion but gets counted as one in order to inflate numbers.

No, those don't get counted as concussions, as a tiny bit of research would tell you. You're simply wrong about this.

 

[Streifenkarl]

Here's a contraption that should help with brain injuries and hopefully keep hard hits in the league


BOOOO WHERE MUH NFL GONE? I'M DONE. I WANT MY PLAYERS GETTING CTE LIKE REAL MEN.
REAL MEN LIKE SEAU, THOMAS, ADRIAN ROBINSON, ANDRE WATERS AND OTHERS WHO DIED YOUNG WITH CTE WERE NATIONAL HEROS
PINKO COMMY HELMETS. LIBRHULE AGENDA NEW WORLD ORDER!!

Kinda, yeah, to be honest. Ever since Auto sport is becoming more of a sissy show than real racing (F1 at least) it's becoming dull.

1980s Rally Turbo era, 1990s F1... those were the days. The danger always around so people were looking reverently at the guys getting into those machines and putting up a good show. I stopped watching F1 once they got that stupid pole in front of their faces.

Same thing with football (for me). I watch these guys doing something with great skill I'd never do. The "brutality" of it all is part of the attraction. For anything else I have (European) football or soccer as you guys call it.

Hockey will probably the last sport one day in which you will find some action.

With that being said... I think wearing these cushions will become the norm. Some guy will start wearing it, and then more and more will follow.

And one day we'll probably see a new football product, something like the UFC for football. And people will start watching that. Probably me too.

 

[DoctorChicken]

Cannot believe people are complaining about making a game safer for players.

A sport where the players regularly break their arms, legs, ankles, tear ligaments, rip muscles, get concussions, damage internal organs, puncture lungs...

A kid named Hamlin almost died on live TV in front of millions playing this sport a couple years ago.

And people have the audacity to complain about helmets because they don't like the way they look. Oh please.