Who is the best WR complement to CeeDee?

[cnuball21]

We are on the same page. More comfortable in a trade back the using that 12th pick on anyone except T-Mac

And I agree with you here…the way we operate even if Burden is available Id prefer to trade down and grab a 3rd and just take the WR available if that’s an option.

 

[morasp]

Outside of Tet, do those other WRs (Burden, Egbuka ,Golden) compare to this group of WRs?

In terms of skill sets/measurables I'm not sure yet but ranking them using Lance's preliminary grades for this years class

Nabers 6.86
Harrison 6.83
Odunze 6.74
Burden 6.71
Thomas 6.47
McConkey 6.4
Golden 6.4
McMillan 6.4
Egbuka 6.35
Harris (Tre) 6.34
Worthy 6.29

 

[Hawkeye0202]

JMO, do not use draft assets on another WR, you already have your #1 in CD.
Stephon Diggs would be the best to compliment CD, in my opinion. You have Tolbert, Mingo, Brooks to develop and handle the 3-5 roles.

This is where I am........if Tmac doesn't drop, just sign vet who can hit the ground running. If you think about it, why are we asking the question about the three after Tmac? None are a slam dunk blue chipper you would expect drafting as high as 12. Not to mention, how long would take to gain Dak's trust. Remember it took almost an entire for Dak and Lamb to click his rookie year coz Coop was the #1 guy. This free agent cycle could have 3-4 reasonably priced guys who could step in on day one and make an impact.

Something else to consider.....we an out on Lamb's contract after 2027. If we spend the 12th overall on WR, shouldn't we be confident he can be a #1 guy in a couple of years?

 

[Cowboyny]

And I agree with you here…the way we operate even if Burden is available Id prefer to trade down and grab a 3rd and just take the WR available if that’s an option.

I would be happy with any of the three in a trade back

 

[Cowboyny]

I agree to an extent…but there are elements of being a quality route runner and athletic traits are a piece of it. I’ll change my tune if Burden doesn’t test well but he has those traits.

Of course I want him to improve on the other elements, but again, you can’t tell me this kid can’t win on some of the referenced routes along with some manufactured touches in year 1 while he’s improving. I’m not going to ask him to come in and run option routes and multi breaking spot routes in year 1 unless he’s ready.

You can be successful with either type, but I feel Dak works better with a strong route runner as he did with Cooper. What I like most about Egbuka is all the big games he has been in and had to makes big pressure plays. He knows how to get open and find those holes in a zone, can get separation against man coverage

 

[tm1119]

Big frame, reliable hands, good route runner. That’s what I think is going to compliment this offense the best.

Continue to move Ceedee around and get the ball in his hands as much as possible, let Turpin/Tolbert run the go routes (I know not exactly scary), but where we lack is a guy that can beat man coverage over the middle and make a tough catch. An Anquon Bolden/Keyshawn Johnson/Michael Crabtree type would do Dak and the offense wonders

 

[Hawkeye0202]

Big frame, reliable hands, good route runner.

This could be a TE.........

 

[Hardline]

Cee Dee will benefit more from a top RB.

 

[TasteMyScythe]

If we are to use a lot more play action then I'd rather see us sign a vet in FA (Diggs). For play action to work properly the timing and execution of the routes need to be spot on and that takes time, and having to depend on a rookie WR to contribute right away is wishful thinking.

 

[cnuball21]

You can be successful with either type, but I feel Dak works better with a strong route runner as he did with Cooper. What I like most about Egbuka is all the big games he has been in and had to makes big pressure plays. He knows how to get open and find those holes in a zone, can get separation against man coverage

Valid points on Egbuka…but keep in mind Lamb wasn’t considered a great route runner as a prospect he just got significantly better each year.

 

[cnuball21]

Big frame, reliable hands, good route runner. That’s what I think is going to compliment this offense the best.

Continue to move Ceedee around and get the ball in his hands as much as possible, let Turpin/Tolbert run the go routes (I know not exactly scary), but where we lack is a guy that can beat man coverage over the middle and make a tough catch. An Anquon Bolden/Keyshawn Johnson/Michael Crabtree type would do Dak and the offense wonders

I’m really liking Bech the more I watch and I think he fits that mold…but is he a 4.6 guy or a 4.5 guy?

Combine will be big for him.

 

[Cowboyny]

Big frame, reliable hands, good route runner. That’s what I think is going to compliment this offense the best.

Continue to move Ceedee around and get the ball in his hands as much as possible, let Turpin/Tolbert run the go routes (I know not exactly scary), but where we lack is a guy that can beat man coverage over the middle and make a tough catch. An Anquon Bolden/Keyshawn Johnson/Michael Crabtree type would do Dak and the offense wonders

What are your thoughts of Higgins from Iowa Stat

 

[Cowboyny]

Valid points on Egbuka…but keep in mind Lamb wasn’t considered a great route runner as a prospect he just got significantly better each year.

Still isn’t a great route runner, but has a big catch radius

 

[Cowboyny]

This could be a TE.........

One of those big receivers that play the te position

 

[tm1119]

What are your thoughts of Higgins from Iowa Stat

Definitely like him, for sure fits the mold I described. Both Iowa St WR’s are very good, although Noel doesn’t fit the big frame model and more of a slot.
Jackson Meeks, Pat Bryant, and Ja’Corey Brooks are some others I like after the 2nd round. Bech is also another option already named.

 

[Cowboyny]

Definitely like him, for sure fits the mold I described. Both Iowa St WR’s are very good, although Noel doesn’t fit the big frame model and more of a slot.
Jackson Meeks, Pat Bryant, and Ja’Corey Brooks are some others I like after the 2nd round. Bech is also another option already named.

Really do believe if they don’t go the fa route, a wr will be targeted somewhere in the top 2 rds.

 

[tm1119]

Really do believe if they don’t go the fa route, a wr will be targeted somewhere in the top 2 rds.

I expect an over the hill big name WR to be signed. Like a Keenan Allen/Diggs/Hopkins type. Will that solve anything? Probably not

 

[cnuball21]

I expect an over the hill big name WR to be signed. Like a Keenan Allen/Diggs/Hopkins type. Will that solve anything? Probably not

Such an accurate expectation lol

 

[Cowboyny]

I expect an over the hill big name WR to be signed. Like a Keenan Allen/Diggs/Hopkins type. Will that solve anything? Probably not

I know many are down on Diggs, but he has been very consistent throughout his career. No, he isn't a #1 receiver any more, but still remains a good option opposite Lamb. Cooper fits the same mold, good route runners tend to have long careers.

 

[phildadon86]

I am zeroing in on the 1st rd receivers in Burden, Egbuka, Golden, assuming T-Mac is long gone. Who complements Lamb the best?

-Burden-a poor man's Lamb but not as explosive. Excellent yac receiver, but is very raw route runner. He is a type of receiver you find ways to get him the football. I have heard comparisons to Brandon Ayuik. #1 receiver upside

-Egbuka-unlike Burden, excellent route runner, highly experienced, but lacks high end explosiveness. Many see him similar to St. Brown from the Lions. Move the sticks type of receiver. Has been playing that Robin role throughout his college career. More of a steady #2 type that has a high floor.

-Golden-similar to Egbuka as a route runner, but is more explosive down the field. However, his slight frame causes struggles against press coverage. A bigger, less talented version of DeVonta Smith. Can he play on the outside?

Bring in Higgins in FA.

Problem solved.