Who is the best WR complement to CeeDee?

[cnuball21]

I kind of like Egbuka the most: has experience being the #2 receiver, can play both inside/outside, knows how to find those open holes in the zone, has been apart of strong rushing attacks.

Now, I am not using the 12th overall pick on a future #2 WR. If I can get another 3rd in a trade back, sign me up, but not at 12.

I like Egbuka…but I think only wins at 2 levels. You almost never see him stretch the field against man.

We’ve been needing someone who can be more of a deep threat for like a decade so I’d lean Burden and Golden as I think they give you more juice. Burden at 12 and Golden in trade down.

 

[TheDank]

Jack Bech

A real option for us in round 3.. probably goes mid round 2 though, there's going to be really good players at the top of 2, hard decisions.

Hell of a senior bowl though, I feel like there's some Puka to his game.

 

[Gambit]

The small outside receivers haven't worked well with Dak in the past. Cooks was a major disappointment here.

Well that's a completely different point. And a fair one. Doesn't mean if I'm washed at other spots and I haven't taken a WR yet and he's bpa I wouldn't take him.

He's just one name out of several I gave. I'm not set in stone on him.

 

[Gambit]

A real option for us in round 3.. probably goes mid round 2 though, there's going to be really good players at the top of 2, hard decisions.

Hell of a senior bowl though, I feel like there's some Puka to his game.

And he just catches everything. We'd have to take him at 44 if we want him. That 2nd tier of WR probably goes on a run about mid 30s.

Such a weird draft this year.

 

[Cowboyny]

You wont get much of an argument from me on that, just depends on your philosophy when it comes to early picks. Is a safer high floor/low ceiling WR that gives you 10 years of #2 type production worth it? Or is it best to gamble on the high ceiling guy? I'm torn on that as im sure many are. I'd love to get the high ceiling guy as we dont pick top 12 every year, but I go back to the Philly 2021 situation as well. They have to be pretty happy with Devonta Smith, but passing on Parsons also has to be in the back of their minds at all times as well.

I like Egbuka the most out of the three, but cannot justify taking a #2 receiver at 12.

 

[Cowboyny]

I like Egbuka…but I think only wins at 2 levels. You almost never see him stretch the field against man.

We’ve been needing someone who can be more of a deep threat for like a decade so I’d lean Burden and Golden as I think they give you more juice. Burden at 12 and Golden in trade down.

Dak was at his best with Lamb/Cooper/Gallup. I do think Tolbert can become a similar type as Gallup. Dak has always worked best with strong route runners. Don't get me wrong, I really like Burden, but his lack of route running concerns me.

 

[visionary]

I am zeroing in on the 1st rd receivers in Burden, Egbuka, Golden, assuming T-Mac is long gone. Who complements Lamb the best?

-Burden-a poor man's Lamb but not as explosive. Excellent yac receiver, but is very raw route runner. He is a type of receiver you find ways to get him the football. I have heard comparisons to Brandon Ayuik. #1 receiver upside

-Egbuka-unlike Burden, excellent route runner, highly experienced, but lacks high end explosiveness. Many see him similar to St. Brown from the Lions. Move the sticks type of receiver. Has been playing that Robin role throughout his college career. More of a steady #2 type that has a high floor.

-Golden-similar to Egbuka as a route runner, but is more explosive down the field. However, his slight frame causes struggles against press coverage. A bigger, less talented version of DeVonta Smith. Can he play on the outside?

None of the above
Do not want WR at 12

 

[Mr_437]

That's a good point, but I envision Tolbert being that future Gallup down the field threat. That is one area in which he has performed well.

Ok so, I agree Tolbert, Mingo, Brooks n Flournoy can go play the X, now I think about it.
1. Golden
2. Egbuka
3. Burden
Dak needs route runners and Golden wins out because he gets vertical and wins contested catches.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

Egbuka by a mile.

I’d be willing to make a friendly bet that he tests out better than Burden too.

 

[Cowboyny]

Ok so, I agree Tolbert, Mingo, Brooks n Flournoy can go play the X, now I think about it.
1. Golden
2. Egbuka
3. Burden
Dak needs route runners and Golden wins out because he gets vertical and wins contested catches.

No problem liking Golden the most, but the 25,000 question, would you take him at 12?

 

[morasp]

For reference here is a list of last years rookie WR with at least 40 receptions and at least 500 yards receiving sorted by yards receiving

Brian Thomas Jr. Jaguars pick 23 NFL draft grade 6.47
1282 yards 87 receptions 10 TD

Malik Nabers Giants Pick 9 NFL draft grade 6.86
1204 yards 109 receptions 7 TD

Ladd McConkey Chargers Pick 34 draft grade 6.4
1149 yards 82 receptions 7 TD

Marvin Harrison Cardinals Pick 4 draft grade 6.83
885 yards 62 receptions 8 TD

Rome Odunze Bears Pick 9 draft grade 6.74
734 yards 54 receptions 3 TD

Xavier Worthy Chiefs Pick 28 draft grade 6.29
638 yards 59 receptions 6 TD


Honorable mention
Xavier Legette Panthers draft grade 6.26
497 yards 49 receptions 4 TD

 

[thunderpimp91]

I like Egbuka the most out of the three, but cannot justify taking a #2 receiver at 12.

Im sort of in the same boat. I wouldnt be upset if they did just select one of those guys at 12, but if WR is the target round 1 I'd prefer a trade down and roll the dice.

 

[Mr_437]

No problem liking Golden the most, but the 25,000 question, would you take him at 12?

Oh nah, would to be a trade back for all of them.

 

[cnuball21]

Dak was at his best with Lamb/Cooper/Gallup. I do think Tolbert can become a similar type as Gallup. Dak has always worked best with strong route runners. Don't get me wrong, I really like Burden, but his lack of route running concerns me.

I think his route running is getting blown out of proportion. Yes, he needs to develop…but:

Part if being a good route runner is foot quickness, lateral agility and burst…he’s got that from day 1 that will allow him to win on slants, stops, fades, in routes etc…

 

[Mr_437]

For reference here is a list of last years rookie WR with at least 40 receptions and at least 500 yards receiving sorted by yards receiving

Brian Thomas Jr. Jaguars pick 23 NFL draft grade 6.47
1282 yards 87 receptions 10 TD

Malik Nabers Giants Pick 9 NFL draft grade 6.86
1204 yards 109 receptions 7 TD

Ladd McConkey Chargers Pick 34 draft grade 6.4
1149 yards 82 receptions 7 TD

Marvin Harrison Cardinals Pick 4 draft grade 6.83
885 yards 62 receptions 8 TD

Rome Odunze Bears Pick 9 draft grade 6.74
734 yards 54 receptions 3 TD

Xavier Worthy Chiefs Pick 28 draft grade 6.29
638 yards 59 receptions 6 TD


Honorable mention
Xavier Legette Panthers draft grade 6.26
497 yards 49 receptions 4 TD

Outside of Tet, do those other WRs (Burden, Egbuka ,Golden) compare to this group of WRs?

 

[Cowboyny]

I think his route running is getting blown out of proportion. Yes, he needs to develop…but:

Part if being a good route runner is foot quickness, lateral agility and burst…he’s got that from day 1 that will allow him to win on slants, stops, fades, in routes etc…

Developing and mastering route running takes time. NFL is more of a pass timing league then it is in the college level.We have seen athletic freaks get by, but they don’t age well, just look at Dez for example

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

Outside of Tet, do those other WRs (Burden, Egbuka ,Golden) compare to this group of WRs?

You weren’t asking me but I would comp Tet with Drake London and Mike Evans.

 

[Cowboyny]

Im sort of in the same boat. I wouldnt be upset if they did just select one of those guys at 12, but if WR is the target round 1 I'd prefer a trade down and roll the dice.

We are on the same page. More comfortable in a trade back the using that 12th pick on anyone except T-Mac

 

[Mr_437]

You weren’t asking me but I would comp Tet with Drake London and Mike Evans.

Those are good comps, imo.

 

[cnuball21]

Developing and mastering route running takes time. NFL is more of a pass timing league then it is in the college level.We have seen athletic freaks get by, but they don’t age well, just look at Dez for example

I agree to an extent…but there are elements of being a quality route runner and athletic traits are a piece of it. I’ll change my tune if Burden doesn’t test well but he has those traits.

Of course I want him to improve on the other elements, but again, you can’t tell me this kid can’t win on some of the referenced routes along with some manufactured touches in year 1 while he’s improving. I’m not going to ask him to come in and run option routes and multi breaking spot routes in year 1 unless he’s ready.