Romo with more 4th quarter comebacks than Aikman and Staubach?

[Trueboysfan]

Just read an article today that stated that Romo has 18 4th quarter comebacks. That didn't seem like a whole lot until I read that Aikman had 16 and "Captain Comeback" had only 15. That tells me more than anything that we have a great qb at the helm and could really use some help from the D. I can't remember the last time where we truly dominated an entire game, but I do remember all the times I'd see Romo put us back in the lead and either win or watch from the sidelines as the D gave up a game winning touchdown. I have and always will be a fan of Romo simply because I'm a fan of football and he is a football player. If the D stays healthy and players like Austin and Murray can stay healthy I believe the sky is the limit for us this year. What do you guys think?

 

[Red Dragon]

Did it specify how much the deficit was in order to count as a comeback? i.e., a team that is trailing 21-20 to begin the fourth quarter, and eventually wins, didn't really face much of a meaningful deficit.

If trailing by 7-10 points or more in the fourth quarter, though, that would be a much more meaningful statistic.

 

[DFWJC]

I think because of the vastly superior running games and defense the odds are great that both Aikman and Staubach were not behind as often in the 4th qtr.

 

[Red Dragon]

I can't remember the last time where we truly dominated an entire game,

Last example I can think of is the Cowboys' 31-15 win over the Buccaneers in 2011, where Dallas led 28-0 at halftime.

Earlier in that season, the Cowboys had also crushed the Bills 44-7, too.



But yes, those were all a long time ago.

 

[Trueboysfan]

Having to put your team in scoring position when you are behind is what it is. Doesn't matter if you are down by one or down by 8. You have to get them within FG range or a TD. Either way it's no easy thing to do. I know last year they trailed by more than 7 10 points and still came away with the win. I also remember Romo having to come from behind more than once in the second half. So I'm not sure why you would suggest any type of comeback where the Cowboys ended up winning the game is any less meaningful due to the score. A win is a win and a loss is a loss.

 

[Trueboysfan]

I wish he had the vastly superior rushing game and shutdown defense Staubach and Aikman had.

 

[Next Years Champ]

I think because of the vastly superior running games and defense the odds are great that both Aikman and Staubach were not behind as often in the 4th qtr.

They also didn't have as many comebacks because they played for better teams if you take the team records of both Stauback and Aikman including playoff games..Romo is buried.

Comebacks aren't needed if you are winning, playing well and not throwing interceptions, losing fumbles or just plain missing passes..which has been Romo in big games.

 

[Califan007]

Losses are "team losses"...comeback wins are "QB wins". Got it.

 

[Super_Kazuya]

A comeback win is just a variant of a quarterback win, which is worthless... making them both worthless.

 

[percyhoward]

Late and Close (4th qtr or OT, 1-8 pt. deficit)
Career Passer Ratings (vs. overall rtg)

Rodgers 107.9 (+3.0)
Romo 99.9 (+4.3)
EManning 94.2 (+11.5)
PManning 92.6 (-3.1)
Brees 91.6 (-2.7)
Schaub 89.3 (-2.6)
Brady 84.7 (-11.9)
Roethlisberger 84.1 (-8.6)
Ryan 83.5 (-7.4)
Flacco 82.7 (-3.6)
Rivers 72.0 (-20.5)

 

[DFWJC]

They also didn't have as many comebacks because they played for better teams if you take the team records of both Stauback and Aikman including playoff games..Romo is buried.

Comebacks aren't needed if you are winning, playing well and not throwing interceptions, losing fumbles or just plain missing passes..which has been Romo in big games.

That was the point I was making; a much better defense and run game would make the team much, much better.

 

[Next Years Champ]

That was the point I was making; a much better defense and run game would make the team much, much better.

Ok..then we are full circle with this. I like Romo, But I just can't stay with him anymore as the guy that is going to turn us into a Championship Team. I don't believe in him and comeback wins or no..I'd much rather he play well and the team not have to make excuses for why Romo can't win when it counts...

..4th Qt. comebacks aside.

 

[rockj7]

This statistic is so easy to twist,
Aikman and Staubach
had good defenses.

 

[Cumart21]

It's a reach to say Aikman had a shutdown defense. The Cowboys defense back then was more of a bend but don't break defense. Aikman's winning teams just played solid football, ran the ball well passed when necessary and didn't beat themselves. In my opinion, they weren't always fun to watch but they sure as heck won some big games. Pretty much the opposite of the Cowboys teams of recent history.

 

[Trueboysfan]

Ok..then we are full circle with this. I like Romo, But I just can't stay with him anymore as the guy that is going to turn us into a Championship Team. I don't believe in him and comeback wins or no..I'd much rather he play well and the team not have to make excuses for why Romo can't win when it counts...

..4th Qt. comebacks aside.

I'm one who tends to believe that it takes a whole team effort in order to win. A comeback shouldn't have to happen as often as it did with the Cowboys last year and I just give credit where it's due. He's a good QB and this year if the team stays healthy I don't think there is a team out there that can beat us.

 

[Alexander]

This is yet another statistic that can be used to boost Romo, just like passer rating and the like.

If you want to talk comeback wins, you need something memorable to attach to it. Can anyone name the last dramatic comeback win Romo posted? I may be forgetting something, but I really cannot think of one. Perhaps the Buffalo game in 2007? The Kansas City Miles Austin breakout game? His signature game is the one two years ago with the punctured lung. This is a link to his 4th Q comebacks: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/play-index/comeback.cgi?player=RomoTo00. Hard to say a lot of those games bring comparisons to "The Drive" or "The Catch". That is how reputations are forged, not on raw numbers. Those come after the foundation was built. Elway was not known as a maestro of comebacks until he had that noteable one.

Unfortunately, these are style points based on the stakes and what the comeback meant overall. Were the stakes high? I cannot say Romo has had one of these comebacks when it really meant something. You can split hairs and point to Cincinnati and Pittsburgh last year, but that is a stretch when you compare it to the other historic comebacks in team history.

Staubach had the SF game early in his career, the Hail Mary game plus the division winning pass to Tony Hill against the Commanders. That made you forget the game he threw a Romo-like pick at the end against the Rams in his last career action. Aikman and "comeback" do not really go together for me. Most of the time I could take a nap in the second quarter and wake up late in the second half to see the game well in hand during that era. Danny White may not rank high in terms of sheer numbers, but he also had signature comebacks like he did in Atlanta.

 

[BEASToftheEAST]

Comeback wins also have a lot to do with coaching. Anyone want to take the time to see what percentage of the time coaches like Landry and JJ had to have their team “come back?” Bottom line for me:
Staubach - Landry
Aikman - JJ
Romo - Garrett (and others).

I’m no expert but it seems to me Dallas is often trying to “come back” since Garrett has taken over. Dude is not a game manager.

 

[Alexander]

Comeback wins also have a lot to do with coaching. Anyone want to take the time to see what percentage of the time coaches like Landry and JJ had to have their team “come back?” Bottom line for me:
Staubach - Landry
Aikman - JJ
Romo - Garrett (and others).

I’m no expert but it seems to me Dallas is often trying to “come back” since Garrett has taken over. Dude is not a game manager.

Almost all of our wins last year "count" as comebacks mainly because we got off to terrible starts and yes, that does point to poor game planning and preparation. Now, granted, some of those were due to Romo's mistakes early on.

 

[Hostile]

Losses are "team losses"...comeback wins are "QB wins". Got it.

Actually, if you bothered to look it up, you'd see that the QB who starts a game is credited with either a win or a loss, depending upon the game outcome. The stats for comeback wins are also attributed to a QB and tracked. This thread is nothing more than the mention of a statistic and therefore no more outrageous than any other statistic. Why Cowboys fans discussing a stat about their starting QB should upset or ruffle a Commanders fan is beyond confusing to me. I suppose you don't care about RG3's 3 games that fulfill that stat, nor that 2 of them happened in the stretch run of December, one against the eventual Super Bowl Champion Ravens? Yeah, don't try to go there, I am not going to believe you if you do. This was nothing more than a Commanders fan trolling, which usually isn't your forte'.

 

[Nova]

A better stat would be success rates for comebacks-- how many times was a 4th quarter comeback successful? Obviously if Romo has more opportunities, he's likely going to have more 4th quarter comebacks.

Still wouldn't be perfect though, since a few other factors cannot be accounted for that way. One game comes to mind that's a good example of other factors... The first game against the Giants in the new Cowboys Stadium.

The Cowboys took the lead late, but it was hardly Romo's doing, it was the running game that put them ahead. Then of course the defense gave up the lead on the last drive. So Romo wouldn't have been worthy of blame or credit.