More on Rod Marinelli to TB

Rod did a nice job while he was here, but if it was his intention to leave, i would he have rather left last year. I'm tired of all of the shifting of defensive coordinators. We can never establish a defensive identity because we keep shifting coordinators or they leave.
 
Yeah, but it was about as talent poor as any defense in the league.

Marinelli did an outstanding job this season. If he leaves, we're almost certainly taking a step back on defense that we'll need to make up by adding talent. But who wants to start the long offseason off in a hole when there's so much work to do on that side of the ball already?

Outstanding? That's hyperbole if I have ever heard it. The defense had its moments, but there was nothing outstanding about the performance nor the coordination.
 
Outstanding? That's hyperbole if I have ever heard it. The defense had its moments, but there was nothing outstanding about the performance nor the coordination.

People have a hard time separating the output of a team or a unit (statistically) from the job someone does coaching it. I always reference John Wooden when this comes up, but you hear similar things from just about every coach who's posed the question: his best jobs coaching happened on teams that weren't necessarily his best teams.

This unit was well coached. Poor personnel--the worst personnel I can remember on a Cowboys defense going back to the Dave Campo regime--but they played hard, tackled well, and the backups and the replacement players came in, took significant snaps, and knew their responsibilities. They got better over the course of the game, and over the course of the season. To a man, the players and other coaches speak glowingly of the guy. And he's mentioned in every conversations I"ve heard --literally--as a candidate for assistant coach of the year. Yes, I think they guys an outstanding coach, and I say that without even a hint of hyperbole. I think losing him is almost certainly a step back, unless we get incredibly lucky with his replacement.

What's more, I think that would be consensus in the coverage of his departure across the league...anywhere other than in the minority opinions of some Cowboys boards. We'll see, I guess, if it actually happens.
 
People have a hard time separating the output of a team or a unit (statistically) from the job someone does coaching it. I always reference John Wooden when this comes up, but you hear similar things from just about every coach who's posed the question: his best jobs coaching happened on teams that weren't necessarily his best teams.

This unit was well coached. Poor personnel--the worst personnel I can remember on a Cowboys defense going back to the Dave Campo regime--but they played hard, tackled well, and the backups and the replacement players came in, took significant snaps, and knew they're responsibilities. They got better over the course of the game, and over the course of the season. To a man, the players and other coaches speak glowingly of the guy. And he's mentioned in every conversations I"ve heard --literally--as a candidate for assistant coach of the year. Yes, I think they guys an outstanding coach, and I say that without even a hint of hyperbole. I think losing him is almost certainly a step back, unless we get incredibly lucky with his replacement.

What's more, I think that would be consensus in the coverage of his departure across the league...anywhere other than in the minority opinions of some Cowboys boards. We'll see, I guess, if it actually happens.

Coaching is a results oriented business. You are judged by the results that you get. I think Marinelli got decent performance out of the team. Was the team particularly talented on defense? No, they need improvements on all three levels of defense.

But, to me, if a coach does an "outstanding" job on defense, then there would be something tangible in terms of results to point to. The points allowed were not great. Neither were the yards per play. The sack numbers were poor. They did well in turnovers that last five games, but were not good the first 11. Do I think the team is incapable of upgrading the DC position if Rod Marinelli leaves? No.

I like his approach, and think that he is a good coach, but outstanding is not a word I would associate with the coaching or play of the 2014 Cowboy defense.
 
I'm not all that worried Marrinelli is leaving.

I really think he should have shoulderd the blame for last year than he did.

But I'm not sure we can't get somebody who ISN'T going on 74 to be our DC.

Just not Rob Ryan..please
 
And rush 3 nose tackles? I'm pretty sure there were a few times he had Brent and Hayden @ DE...and Bishop rushing @ the NT

What kind of rush you gonna generate with that?

Where were the double A gap blitzes?......................yea, lets rush 3 NTs against a one legged QB................this type of brilliance I don't know how we are ever going to replace.;)
 
Coaching is a results oriented business. You are judged by the results that you get. I think Marinelli got decent performance out of the team. Was the team particularly talented on defense? No, they need improvements on all three levels of defense.

But, to me, if a coach does an "outstanding" job on defense, then there would be something tangible in terms of results to point to. The points allowed were not great. Neither were the yards per play. The sack numbers were poor. They did well in turnovers that last five games, but were not good the first 11. Do I think the team is incapable of upgrading the DC position if Rod Marinelli leaves? No.

I like his approach, and think that he is a good coach, but outstanding is not a word I would associate with the coaching or play of the 2014 Cowboy defense.

Taking bottom-of-the-league talent and getting middle-of-the-league performance is about as tangible as it gets. I guess we'll see how much play he gets for the NFL assistant coach of the year award. If he's in serious contention, I'd have to say that probably qualifies his work as outstanding.
 
Marinelli did about as well as anyone could have done with the talent level of this defense.

His loss is a big one, and if we are giving the reigns to Eberflus, color me concerned. Having that experience around Garrett that we had this year with Marinelli/Linehan/Callahan was huge.

I know he doesn't run a Tampa 2, but we should really kick the tires on Jim Schwartz if he becomes available, which I expect he will.
 
Taking bottom-of-the-league talent and getting middle-of-the-league performance is about as tangible as it gets. I guess we'll see how much play he gets for the NFL assistant coach of the year award. If he's in serious contention, I'd have to say that probably qualifies his work as outstanding.

We shall see, I guess. I respect your opinion, but I completely disagree.
 
In all seriousness though what happens to Leslie Frazier? Does he need a job?
 
Coaching is a results oriented business. You are judged by the results that you get. I think Marinelli got decent performance out of the team. Was the team particularly talented on defense? No, they need improvements on all three levels of defense.

But, to me, if a coach does an "outstanding" job on defense, then there would be something tangible in terms of results to point to. The points allowed were not great. Neither were the yards per play. The sack numbers were poor. They did well in turnovers that last five games, but were not good the first 11. Do I think the team is incapable of upgrading the DC position if Rod Marinelli leaves? No.

I like his approach, and think that he is a good coach, but outstanding is not a word I would associate with the coaching or play of the 2014 Cowboy defense.

No.

Whether you keep your job is results oriented.

You can do a good job with poor results. This is a talent league.
 
the lack of loyalty to a group of a players that played with tremendous effort all year is very disturbing.

Well, let's see how it all plays out first. We're talking about one Florio report at this point, right?
 
Man he couldn't get out fast enough. Probably didn't care that much about going to Seattle next week. See ya
 
I think Marinelli did a terrific job by having this unit be anything other than the worst defensive unit in the league. I mean that in all seriousness. They played hard, tried to play fundamentally sound and fought for turnovers.

With that said, I think we all envision (hope?) next year's unit seeing an infusion of talent through free agency and the draft. Hopefully, we'll put someone in place who can do good things with a much-improved talent base.

If the reports are accurate and he's already out the door, well, yeah his loyalty clearly doesn't lie here. Time to move on if that's the case.
 
Hi Mike, I meant to say the last 2 seasons.
To take that rag tag group from 2 years ago and have it playing at this level would be hard to replace.
Who did you have in mind ?


What I have in mind is another infusion of talent for the defense this offseason.
 
He did a good job with what he had, but I certainly thought he would have tried to bring more pressure yesterday with a one legged QB. The naysayers say Rodgers would have picked us apart. Guess what, he picked us apart anyways and we never put any pressure on him. Let him go!
 
Well, it'd be a lot easier for the rest of us to accept it if you'd simply gotten on board with mocking the guy for absolutely no reason months ago.

Again it seems some folks live in a world of "He's either the best in the business or he's the worst".

I think Marinelli's job can be classified as "decent". Some would say "good" and I can accept that. But neither of those words signifies "dreg of the earth coaching".

Some have to learn there's a lot of "grey area" between the two extremes– and that's OK too.
 
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