Hardy, Brent, and drafting Gregory all but prove Jason Garrett is little more then a puppet

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That changes everything.

The guns weren't "automatic" and he failed a "drug" test.

RKG for sure.

Hardy was not charged with aggravated domestic violence which would mean he brandished a gun(s) and beat her while he was at it. Get a clue, the guns being there are about as important as the futon being there.
 

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RKG is more about football character, I think that was the buzzword for the draft this year. You have shown your ignorance automatic weapons, if you know anything about guns automatic weapons while are legal are extremely hard to get since you can only own ones made prior to 1986. Were you in the apartment during the alleged incident with Hardy? Are you the NFL's star witness but nowhere to be found for the trial. Jerry has always been a supporter of his players regardless of the mistake following your logic Irvin would never have played another down in a Dallas uniform after his hookers and blow incident. So now people with mental illness should be branded and shamed never to be a productive member of society, as for the pot use this is a 20 something kid in today's age, if anything it shows immaturity. So please O wise one show us the path of perfection so that we know your stones can righteously break my glass walls.

Nope, you're just a little off on trying to understand a point. I could care less whether they were automatic or not. Doesnt change anything in my opinion. Beating his GF was the real kicker. Try to keep up.
 

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RKG is more about football character, I think that was the buzzword for the draft this year. You have shown your ignorance automatic weapons, if you know anything about guns automatic weapons while are legal are extremely hard to get since you can only own ones made prior to 1986. Were you in the apartment during the alleged incident with Hardy? Are you the NFL's star witness but nowhere to be found for the trial. Jerry has always been a supporter of his players regardless of the mistake following your logic Irvin would never have played another down in a Dallas uniform after his hookers and blow incident. So now people with mental illness should be branded and shamed never to be a productive member of society, as for the pot use this is a 20 something kid in today's age, if anything it shows immaturity. So please O wise one show us the path of perfection so that we know your stones can righteously break my glass walls.

Again, you miss the point. I love the Hardy signing. Just dont try to tell me that this is what Garrett meant by RKG.
 

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Were you there, do you have 100% damning evidence to support this or are you one of those that believe that you are guilty until proven innocent.
 

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I think a good deal of RKG is simply loving football.

Jones owned -- and Garrett played on -- championship Cowboys teams that included.....

- Michael Irvin (drugs/womanizer/arrests)
- Leon Lett (multiple suspensions for drugs...to include an entire year)
- Mark Stepnoski (vocal/public pot advocate & long-time user)
- Nate Newton (served prison time following two drug trafficking arrests)
- Charles Haley (struggled for years with bipolar disorder...now manages it with meds/therapy)
- Mark Tuinei (died of Heroin/ecstasy overdose not long after retiring)

While some of this occurred after the players retired...some of it didn't.

Jones does indeed believe in second chances. Lett is now on the Cowboys coaching staff. Nate Newton remains around the team, as does Michael Irvin...both of whom were 'unofficial' advisors to Josh Brent. Players with issues such as Hardy, Brent, and Gregory...certainly are nothing new to Jones, Garrett, the Cowboys, or the NFL.

Speaking of 2nd chances...Newton had two strikes in a matter of 6 weeks, and had an all-time classic explanation. From a Feb. 2009 TIME article entitled: Sex, Drugs and America's Team.....

"Unfortunately, that same fire steered the former Dallas Cowboy awry in November 2001, when he was busted hauling 213 lb. of marijuana through Louisiana. While out on bail six weeks later, Newton inexplicably was caught ferrying another 175 lb. of pot in the trunk of his car."...“I’ve always been competitive. I’ve always been in sports,” Newton explained. “I couldn’t see myself not being the biggest dope man.”
 

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Hardy was not charged with aggravated domestic violence which would mean he brandished a gun(s) and beat her while he was at it. Get a clue, the guns being there are about as important as the futon being there.

LOL......Guns and futon, no difference. LOL

Now that was funny. Im sure the fact that the guns there had nothing to do with it.
 

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I think a good deal of RKG is simply loving football.

Jones owned -- and Garrett played on -- championship Cowboys teams that included.....

- Michael Irvin (drugs/womanizer/arrests)
- Leon Lett (multiple suspensions for drugs...to include an entire year)
- Mark Stepnoski (vocal/public pot advocate & long-time user)
- Nate Newton (served prison time following multiple drug trafficking arrests)
- Charles Haley (struggled for years with bipolar disorder...now manages it with meds/therapy)
- Mark Tuinei (died of Heroin/ecstasy overdose not long after retiring)

While some of this occurred after the players retired...some of it didn't.

Jones does indeed believe in second chances. Lett is now on the Cowboys coaching staff. Nate Newton remains around the team, as does Michael Irvin...both of whom were 'unofficial' advisors to Josh Brent. Players with issues such as Hardy, Brent, and Gregory...certainly are nothing new to Jones, Garrett, the Cowboys, or the NFL.

Speaking of 2nd chances...Newton had two strikes in a matter of 6 weeks, and had an all-time classic explanation. From a Feb. 2009 TIME article entitled: Sex, Drugs and America's Team.....

"Unfortunately, that same fire steered the former Dallas Cowboy awry in November 2001, when he was busted hauling 213 lb. of marijuana through Louisiana. While out on bail six weeks later, Newton inexplicably was caught ferrying another 175 lb. of pot in the trunk of his car."...“I’ve always been competitive. I’ve always been in sports,” Newton explained. “I couldn’t see myself not being the biggest dope man.”

My point exactly. Jones doenst care about off the field character. And its quite clear he is the one calling shots on players, not Garrett.
 

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Again, you miss the point. I love the Hardy signing. Just dont try to tell me that this is what Garrett meant by RKG.

If you read most of the interviews with former team mates and interviews of current team mates he is a RKG, he pushes his team mates he leads hes positional group if not more. He shows up and works hard, or would rather have a "choirboy" like ratliff back.
 

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Were you there, do you have 100% damning evidence to support this or are you one of those that believe that you are guilty until proven innocent.

Yah, I was there. And so were you.

As far as Hardy being guilty, again, I could care less. And again............I love the Hardy signing. Great job by Jones not listening to Garretts BS.
 

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LOL......Guns and futon, no difference. LOL

Now that was funny. Im sure the fact that the guns there had nothing to do with it.

He was not charged with anything pertaining to guns, the guns are as pointless to his alleged crime as the kitchen knives, and shovel in the closet. Making crap up and exaggerating innuendos has me wondering have gotten hair down there yet??
 

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If you read most of the interviews with former team mates and interviews of current team mates he is a RKG, he pushes his team mates he leads hes positional group if not more. He shows up and works hard, or would rather have a "choirboy" like ratliff back.

yah, his the RKG......he beats his GF on top of guns. LOL

Garretts RKG mantra is obviously nothing but BS. Because if DOESNT include off the field stuff, then its meaningless. A guy that doesnt play football for nearly two years because of his off field problems is in no way the RKG by any definition. So is that why they made the contract they way they did? Because he is such a trustworthy leader and will be on the field every game? Cmon, give me a break.
 

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He was not charged with anything pertaining to guns, the guns are as pointless to his alleged crime as the kitchen knives, and shovel in the closet. Making crap up and exaggerating innuendos has me wondering have gotten hair down there yet??

he can't comprehend auto vs. non-automatic weapons.

logic failure across the board here.
 

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yah, his the RKG......he beats his GF on top of guns. LOL

Garretts RKG mantra is obviously nothing but BS. Because if DOESNT include off the field stuff, then its meaningless. A guy that doesnt play football for nearly two years because of his off field problems is in no way the RKG by any definition. So is that why they made the contract they way they did? Because he is such a trustworthy leader and will be on the field every game? Cmon, give me a break.

OK so they are not the RKG to you, you are not the coach. Bipolar much one you praise the signing of this ALLEGED woman beater and then you tear down the coach for letting the team sign this ALLEGED woman beater???
 

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yah, his the RKG......he beats his GF on top of guns. LOL

Garretts RKG mantra is obviously nothing but BS. Because if DOESNT include off the field stuff, then its meaningless. A guy that doesnt play football for nearly two years because of his off field problems is in no way the RKG by any definition. So is that why they made the contract they way they did? Because he is such a trustworthy leader and will be on the field every game? Cmon, give me a break.

Please go be a Texans fan... Please!
 

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Since you dont get it, here is Will Clay talking all about it.

A few observations:

1) It's no wonder we have a strong tendency under G to draft team captains. He wants leaders. Leaders usually have the 3 qualities, that's why they are respected enough to be leaders.

2) It's football character, not just character. They want players who will show up ready to work. Who the coach can trust to do their jobs. That's why a few past incidents (by 18-20 year olds, no less) do not disqualify them (Dez, DLaw, Boyd etc). When the Cowboys do blacklist a criminal or knucklehead, I bet they lack this kind of football character, too -- missed meetings, showing up late, not giving full effort.

3) It's interesting how McClay uses "competes" like a noun. The player must have "competes." This is probably just a way to label it, but it's clear they value players who are competitive, who have that fire, because it drives the other things, it's the desire -- as McClay articulates. We want "ballers," dudes who step up in the lime light, Prime Times.

4) I'm REALLY impressed with McClay after this interview!

Thanks for validating what I was saying, I guess.
 

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Well the only thing this particular thread did was point out another person that needed to go to good old ignore land.

I'm a pretty tolerant guy and since this forum's inception I have only put one poster on ignore. Having said that, I am following you on this and adding in number 2.
 

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I'm a pretty tolerant guy and since this forum's inception I have only put one poster on ignore. Having said that, I am following you on this and adding in number 2.

Im sorry, am I supposed to care about that? If you cant handle a difference of opinion, then by all means please don't respond to anything I say. Put me on ignore.
 

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Incredibly idiotic take.

I saw that Jim Harbaugh wore out his welcome in SF, as players started to tune him out and stopped giving 100% for him.

You know which coach hasn't even come close to wearing out his welcome? Whose message has actually sunk in more and more since he's been with the team? Whose players absolutely give it their all each and every game for 60 minutes?

Jason Garrett. Entering his FIFTH full season. Time to start giving credit where it's due. Unless you're dense enough to think our guys give it 100% because of Jerry Jones, in which case you'd have to re-write 25 years of Jerry's history.

I SWEAR, for some it's about the red hair and goofy smile/demeanor. Give him a 'stache like Jeff Fisher's and a tougher appearance and he'd get more respect from these clowns.
 

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Incredibly idiotic take.

I saw that Jim Harbaugh wore out his welcome in SF, as players started to tune him out and stopped giving 100% for him.

You know which coach hasn't even come close to wearing out his welcome? Whose message has actually sunk in more and more since he's been with the team? Whose players absolutely give it their all each and every game for 60 minutes?

Jason Garrett. Entering his FIFTH full season. Time to start giving credit where it's due. Unless you're dense enough to think our guys give it 100% because of Jerry Jones, in which case you'd have to re-write 25 years of Jerry's history.

I SWEAR, for some it's about the red hair and goofy smile/demeanor. Give him a 'stache like Jeff Fisher's and a tougher appearance and he'd get more respect from these clowns.

Ill give him some credit. But its no coincidence the team turned a corner after Jerry kicked him to the curb once and for all with the offense. Lets just thank our lucky stars that we have great coordinators. And Jones is no dummy. His first order of business was to go out and resign them when the season ended. To me, Will Clay has been the biggest change in the team. The way we run the draft the last few years has been incredible. If Garrett had something to do with that, then kudos.
 
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