Carson Wentz will play for Cowboys coaching staff at Sr Bowl.

[LatinMind]

Lol. Give it up dude.

Mayock, who I consider the ultimate draft expert, recently tweeted that he's in consideration to be the first QB taken. That's as much as a seal as you should need.

Lol Mayock you mean the same Mayock was was crucified by GMs in 2014? Mayock the same Mayock that said Dallas was stupid for reaching for Fredrick? some expert.


Mayock on blaine Gabbert lol
Anyway, NFL Network’s Mike Mayock said he didn’t need to see Gabbert throw in Indianapolis. Based on the tape, he’s a huge fan. Mayock sees four quarterbacks with first-round ability: Gabbert, Auburn’s Cam Newton, Washington’s Jake Locker and Arkansas’ Ryan Mallet, but Gabbert is the only one he viewed as a top-10 pick coming out of the combine.

 

[waving monkey]

only people predicting Wents to be a pick as high as the Cowboys are on this forum. I have not seen one media outlet come remotely close to saying that.

I didnt say anyone was predicting us taking Wentz at 4. But I have seen CBS sports have him at 11
over all.And thats with the draft 3 plus months away. What I'm saying is Wentz will be gone by the 34th
pick.I did admit Im paranoid of a team jumping in front of us.

There are two schools of thought regarding the Dallas #4 selection. [1] take a QB
[2] BPA and neither is wrong.

I think Dallas is in a unique position to secure their future now. Allow this [ Wentz,Lynch]
to grow and hit the ground running [smile] and not look back.

You and many others dont agree I get it, just my thoughts on the matter.

 

[21Savage]

Lol Mayock you mean the same Mayock was was crucified by GMs in 2014? Mayock the same Mayock that said Dallas was stupid for reaching for Fredrick? some expert.


Mayock on blaine Gabbert lol
Anyway, NFL Network’s Mike Mayock said he didn’t need to see Gabbert throw in Indianapolis. Based on the tape, he’s a huge fan. Mayock sees four quarterbacks with first-round ability: Gabbert, Auburn’s Cam Newton, Washington’s Jake Locker and Arkansas’ Ryan Mallet, but Gabbert is the only one he viewed as a top-10 pick coming out of the combine.

You can make the same case against any draftnik, even the top GMs in football. You asked for one and I named you the preeminent one by most people's estimation.

If you don't accept that then I think it's pointless carrying on with this exercise.

 

[LatinMind]

I didnt say anyone was predicting us taking Wentz at 4. But I have seen CBS sports have him at 11
over all.And thats with the draft 3 plus months away. What I'm saying is Wentz will be gone by the 34th
pick.I did admit Im paranoid of a team jumping in front of us.

There are two schools of thought regarding the Dallas #4 selection. [1] take a QB
[2] BPA and neither is wrong.

I think Dallas is in a unique position to secure their future now. Allow this [ Wentz,Lynch]
to grow and hit the ground running [smile] and not look back.

You and many others dont agree I get it, just my thoughts on the matter.

I think he will either go houston or KC. But he will not go any higher.

Dallas is in a unique posistion in that they can win now. And in the future. And im sure the Jones' are thinking that way. There are players at 4 that will help win now and in the future. It would be idiotic to spend that pick solely on the future, right now. You dont pick a QB at 4 to sit him when you have a franchise QB who is world better then anything in this draft. None of these QBs are anywhere near half of what Romo is. You dont think the team knows this? Romo is one of the gutsiest players in this league. And this teams fans show absolute disrespect in thinking he's done. Dallas can easily pick a guy like Hackenberg in round 2. doughty in round 3, Hogan/Coker in round 4 and each would have just as much a chance to succeed in Dallas as Wentz, or Paxton. Why because they will have time to develop. Romo isnt going anywhere anytime soon. You people need drill that into your heads. Just because he broke his collar bone this yr doesnt mean anything for 2016. He will be healed, he will have a healthy OL a establish Rb with most likely a RB behind him and his star WR back and his HOF TE. You guys worry too much.

 

[LatinMind]

You can make the same case against any draftnik, even the top GMs in football. You asked for one and I named you the preeminent one by most people's estimation.

If you don't accept that then I think it's pointless carrying on with this exercise.

Ive never heard Mayock being called a expert. Ever. Mayock has a nice 100 prospect list, but even then Gosselins is better. But Mayock predicting picks has always been a joke

 

[Redball Express]

I would not be surprised that if he shows well at the senior bowl, he is the pick at #4. Mock drafts are one thing, but true scouts have always had this guy in the first round.

I think so,too.

If you like the guy take him.

To me..if he goes at 4 and otherwise goes at 10..

who cares?

This selecting about value is a fools game.

I have never seen any player who is sucessfull later get a rebate for the team because he panned out.

It doesn't exist.

So this Fantasy Football draftology is just a thing that is not science like they would like you to believe.

Saying somebody has more value is depending on where selected if its a skill position player..

makes no sense to me.

Its just a way of turning a basic decision into a colvoluted abstract one that assumes you buy what the 'Expert' is selling.

Buyer Beware.

 

[waving monkey]

I think he will either go houston or KC. But he will not go any higher.

Dallas is in a unique posistion in that they can win now. And in the future. And im sure the Jones' are thinking that way. There are players at 4 that will help win now and in the future. It would be idiotic to spend that pick solely on the future, right now. You dont pick a QB at 4 to sit him when you have a franchise QB who is world better then anything in this draft. None of these QBs are anywhere near half of what Romo is. You dont think the team knows this? Romo is one of the gutsiest players in this league. And this teams fans show absolute disrespect in thinking he's done. Dallas can easily pick a guy like Hackenberg in round 2. doughty in round 3, Hogan/Coker in round 4 and each would have just as much a chance to succeed in Dallas as Wentz, or Paxton. Why because they will have time to develop. Romo isnt going anywhere anytime soon. You people need drill that into your heads. Just because he broke his collar bone this yr doesnt mean anything for 2016. He will be healed, he will have a healthy OL a establish Rb with most likely a RB behind him and his star WR back and his HOF TE. You guys worry too much.

Let's jsut agree to disagree
calling: sitting a high pick idiotic kinda flies in the face of savings for the future.
I disagree pretty much with your entire response ,we'll see

 

[LatinMind]

Let's jsut agree to disagree
calling: sitting a high pick idiotic kinda flies in the face of savings for the future.
I disagree pretty much with your entire response ,we'll see

U dont think you could pick a player at 4 who can help the team next yr and still pick a QB in rd 2? Or trade down and pick up a Qb like Wentz later in the round or use that extra pick to trade up? I just see it a lose situation to pick a player at 4 who is a project. 3 QBs who dont even take snaps under center. QBs who play in a spread offense who get their plays by flash cards instead of verbal communication. QBs like Hackenberg, Cook, Hogan, all run a pro style offense and who had under par years because the talent around them was garbage. Especially Hackenberg. I think he is made for a offense like Dallas' because the offense doesnt call for anything outside the box. Its straight up man football. smashmouth if you will. Hackenberg had a whole lot of success running this type of offense under bill obrien. He left and Hackenberg was left with a HC who tried to run what most college teams are running with no OL at that. You dont reach for QBs especially that high. Just a few weeks ago everybody was saying Lynch was the top guy, now all of the sudden they are saying he's a middle of round 1 guy, and Wentz went from a legit middle of round 2 to top 4? lol. the top guy Goff was 9tds and 9 ints against ranked opponents and lost every single one of them games. There is too much uncertainty with these QBs to select one at 4 IMO. And i hope Dallas feels this way too. There is too much proven talent to pick besides QB.

 

[CATCH17]

U dont think you could pick a player at 4 who can help the team next yr and still pick a QB in rd 2? Or trade down and pick up a Qb like Wentz later in the round or use that extra pick to trade up? I just see it a lose situation to pick a player at 4 who is a project. 3 QBs who dont even take snaps under center. QBs who play in a spread offense who get their plays by flash cards instead of verbal communication. QBs like Hackenberg, Cook, Hogan, all run a pro style offense and who had under par years because the talent around them was garbage. Especially Hackenberg. I think he is made for a offense like Dallas' because the offense doesnt call for anything outside the box. Its straight up man football. smashmouth if you will. Hackenberg had a whole lot of success running this type of offense under bill obrien. He left and Hackenberg was left with a HC who tried to run what most college teams are running with no OL at that. You dont reach for QBs especially that high. Just a few weeks ago everybody was saying Lynch was the top guy, now all of the sudden they are saying he's a middle of round 1 guy, and Wentz went from a legit middle of round 2 to top 4? lol. the top guy Goff was 9tds and 9 ints against ranked opponents and lost every single one of them games. There is too much uncertainty with these QBs to select one at 4 IMO. And i hope Dallas feels this way too. There is too much proven talent to pick besides QB.

If you hit on a QB it really doesn't matter how you acquired them or even if you overpaid and got bad value.

 

[jjktkk]

I think he will either go houston or KC. But he will not go any higher.

Dallas is in a unique posistion in that they can win now. And in the future. And im sure the Jones' are thinking that way. There are players at 4 that will help win now and in the future. It would be idiotic to spend that pick solely on the future, right now. You dont pick a QB at 4 to sit him when you have a franchise QB who is world better then anything in this draft. None of these QBs are anywhere near half of what Romo is. You dont think the team knows this? Romo is one of the gutsiest players in this league. And this teams fans show absolute disrespect in thinking he's done. Dallas can easily pick a guy like Hackenberg in round 2. doughty in round 3, Hogan/Coker in round 4 and each would have just as much a chance to succeed in Dallas as Wentz, or Paxton. Why because they will have time to develop. Romo isnt going anywhere anytime soon. You people need drill that into your heads. Just because he broke his collar bone this yr doesnt mean anything for 2016. He will be healed, he will have a healthy OL a establish Rb with most likely a RB behind him and his star WR back and his HOF TE. You guys worry too much.

You simply cannot rely on a, soon to be 36 old Romo to stay healthy anymore. Dallas needs a viable backup qb now, as well as their qb of the future..Waiting until the middle rounds to pick up a so so qb prospect is a flawed strategy.

 

[CATCH17]

Easily a first round talent.

The more I see the more convinced I become that he is worthy of a high pick.

 

[waving monkey]

U dont think you could pick a player at 4 who can help the team next yr and still pick a QB in rd 2? Or trade down and pick up a Qb like Wentz later in the round or use that extra pick to trade up? I just see it a lose situation to pick a player at 4 who is a project. 3 QBs who dont even take snaps under center. QBs who play in a spread offense who get their plays by flash cards instead of verbal communication. QBs like Hackenberg, Cook, Hogan, all run a pro style offense and who had under par years because the talent around them was garbage. Especially Hackenberg. I think he is made for a offense like Dallas' because the offense doesnt call for anything outside the box. Its straight up man football. smashmouth if you will. Hackenberg had a whole lot of success running this type of offense under bill obrien. He left and Hackenberg was left with a HC who tried to run what most college teams are running with no OL at that. You dont reach for QBs especially that high. Just a few weeks ago everybody was saying Lynch was the top guy, now all of the sudden they are saying he's a middle of round 1 guy, and Wentz went from a legit middle of round 2 to top 4? lol. the top guy Goff was 9tds and 9 ints against ranked opponents and lost every single one of them games. There is too much uncertainty with these QBs to select one at 4 IMO. And i hope Dallas feels this way too. There is too much proven talent to pick besides QB.

This is my last salvo. It's not unreasonable to think Romo could get injured next year and who ever
the back up is going to be needs to be good. That position lost us lots of games last year.
Not saying that that the drafted QB would be that guy [I dont expect he will] but he could be the year after
and thats the point. Get that guy on the team learning because every year we wait is a another year
down the road that we didnt do our best to secure the future.And very year people could say,"not this
year we need to draft bla bla" not the QB.Then we wander into the after Aikman years when we could
have the better one of the class of 2016 instead of the better of the class of 2017.18.19.20 ect.

I read more positive things about Wentz then I do about Hackenberg,Hogan Cook ect. I want the better.
I'll wait and see how the Senior Bowl,Combine, work outs work out and if Wentz starts sliding well OK.
Where I'm standing from this distant view I like Goff and Wentz . I assume Cleveland takes Goff.
I take Wentz , where? We'll see.

 

[Beast_from_East]

Wentz at 4? Wow

He is being mocked as high as 11 to the Rams on some draft sites, so I don't think he will be available in the 2nd round.

If we want him, we might have to take him at 4........we could always trade down, but then you risk at team leap frogging infront of you if they like Wentz also.

Of course this all depends on him passing all the evaluations........if he totally sucks in the senior bowl and throws 3 picks, then yea, we probably aint taking him at 4 then.

 

[Alexander]

But Mayock predicting picks has always been a joke

None of them predict picks well. Not Mayock, Kiper, McShay, any of them.

And let's be honest about Gosselin. All he did was pump sources the night before the draft, put it in an article and suddenly he was considered some expert. Far from it.

 

[Alexander]

Easily a first round talent.

The more I see the more convinced I become that he is worthy of a high pick.

If he is growing on fans, I can imagine how he is on scouting departments.

 

[LatinMind]

None of them predict picks well. Not Mayock, Kiper, McShay, any of them.

And let's be honest about Gosselin. All he did was pump sources the night before the draft, put it in an article and suddenly he was considered some expert. Far from it.

Never said he was an expert. Just said his top 100 lists are better than Mayocks

 

[Alexander]

Never said he was an expert. Just said his top 100 lists are better than Mayocks

And his top 100 list was also right up on top of the draft, one time, making it much easier to look good. The others publish them going along in the process.

 

[Dhragon]

I think so,too.

If you like the guy take him.

To me..if he goes at 4 and otherwise goes at 10..

who cares?

This selecting about value is a fools game.

I have never seen any player who is sucessfull later get a rebate for the team because he panned out.

It doesn't exist.

So this Fantasy Football draftology is just a thing that is not science like they would like you to believe.

Saying somebody has more value is depending on where selected if its a skill position player..

makes no sense to me.

Its just a way of turning a basic decision into a colvoluted abstract one that assumes you buy what the 'Expert' is selling.

Buyer Beware.

Same here - this "VALUE" talk gets frustrating. Who cares if you get great value at a pick, but that pick busts anyway? Who cares if you get poor value, but that player turns out elite? I'm sure glad we drafted Fredericks, even though most anaylists were harping about his lack of value for the first round.

Get a great player - THAT'S great value - not the perception of others that you picked a player a few spots out of some imaginary value chart.

 

[Boom]

Easily a first round talent.

The more I see the more convinced I become that he is worthy of a high pick.

In that clip I heard the announcers mention he has a titanium plate in his collar bone. Yet another tool required to run this offense. Book him at #4.

 

[Alexander]

Same here - this "VALUE" talk gets frustrating. Who cares if you get great value at a pick, but that pick busts anyway? Who cares if you get poor value, but that player turns out elite? I'm sure glad we drafted Fredericks, even though most anaylists were harping about his lack of value for the first round.

Get a great player - THAT'S great value - not the perception of others that you picked a player a few spots out of some imaginary value chart.

It is just part of the draft game. It feels good to get a "steal". But yes, you are right, if the player fits your team and contributes, who cares if it was considered a reach or not?