Myles Jack...

[Enlightened32]

Um I think after a disaster station at the qb position I would start there. Anyone that Says otherwise, us really drinking the kool aid

Anyone that would waste the 4th overall pick on any of the QBs is drinking their hype. You don't reach on for a QB just because you need one. There is not one QB in this draft worth that pick.

 

[Hardline]

Jack is worthy of a #4 pick.

Bosa and Tunsil are the only ones I would take ahead of him.

 

[Sydla]

Anyone that would waste the 4th overall pick on any of the QBs is drinking their hype. You don't reach on for a QB just because you need one. There is not one QB in this draft worth that pick.

You also don't reach for a WILL LB either.

I have doubts myself that Jack would be the 4th best player on the Cowboys board.

 

[stilltheguru88]

It all depends if dallas thinks he can be mlb.

 

[BAT]

I've watched everything I can find on him and he seems to get engulfed by offensive linemen if they get their hands on him. I am not saying he can't play in the middle, I am saying for him and for us, it wouldn't be optimal.

Place a guy like Billings or Robinson in front of him, and problem solved. Besides, it would make more sense to move Lee back to the inside and have Jack at WILL. Jack is better in coverage.

 

[stilltheguru88]

Place a guy like Billings or Robinson in front of him, and problem solved. Besides, it would make more sense to move Lee back to the inside and have Jack at WILL. Jack is better in coverage.

Lee's career is damn near over. He isnt built for the middle. I wonder what Jacks combine numbers will look like compared to guys like Luke and Willis. Bench, weight, etc.

 

[cds99]

Anyone that would waste the 4th overall pick on any of the QBs is drinking their hype. You don't reach on for a QB just because you need one. There is not one QB in this draft worth that pick.

So you go into next year with the same qb and then sorry scrubs to back him up right. Shew not a good plan in my play book

 

[CF74]

Never watched him play, is he more of a Ray Lewis, Brian Urlacher, or other _______?

 

[tm1119]

So you go into next year with the same qb and then sorry scrubs to back him up right. Shew not a good plan in my play book

Backup qb's need to be put in a position to win. Ours weren't last year. We went through 3 with the same results, and at least 1 of them had proven to be at least a competent NFL QB before he got here.

And I'm not condoning what the guy you quoted said. Unlike most people here I know my YouTube scouting isn't enough to determine if any of these guys are franchise qb's or not. If the coaches and scouts agree that there is a franchise QB available when we pick at 4 we have to take him. But otherwise there is no need to panic about a backup QB...ever.

 

[Pessimist_cowboy]

The player we take at 4 must be able to start from day 1. Only exception is QB . Is jacks knee healed ? If not pass ... We need an imediate starter.

 

[CATCH17]

Need a playmaker.. I don't look around the league and see many linebackers being playmakers so the odds of Jack being one is not good regardless of his talent.

 

[tm1119]

The player we take at 4 must be able to start from day 1. Only exception is QB . Is jacks knee healed ? If not pass ... We need an imediate starter.

Just read an article that said he was going to have 0 limitations going to the combine so I would say yes the knee is good. Was only the miniscuse, no acl or ligament damage so really not a huge deal in the grand scheme of things

 

[AzorAhai]

If they put him in the middle he is going to get eaten alive by NFL linemen. His biggest weakness is disengaging from blocks and that's exactly what you would be asking him to do as a middle linebacker. I don't question his talent or ability, but he is not a great fit for this team, not immediately at least.

While I think Jack is fast enough and instinctual enough to avoid most of those OL heads up, it's this damn scheme thats the problem. Mcclain was a good fit here because he was big and strong. A great fit for a coach that wants tiny scrubs playing 1T. If we were to address that 1T with an actual 1T, our Mike could be a smaller, more athletic LB who could roam around and hit lanes instead of taking on an OG all the time because Hayden got blown off the ball at the snap.

 

[Floatyworm]

I've watched everything I can find on him and he seems to get engulfed by offensive linemen if they get their hands on him. I am not saying he can't play in the middle, I am saying for him and for us, it wouldn't be optimal.

Unless you got a couple of DTs that can keep lineman off him.

 

[Floatyworm]

While I think Jack is fast enough and instinctual enough to avoid most of those OL heads up, it's this damn scheme thats the problem. Mcclain was a good fit here because he was big and strong. A great fit for a coach that wants tiny scrubs playing 1T. If we were to address that 1T with an actual 1T, our Mike could be a smaller, more athletic LB who could roam around and hit lanes instead of taking on an OG all the time because Hayden got blown off the ball at the snap.

Exactly......

I don't know how many times this year while breaking down tape...I'd just shake my head... that the whole damn scheme fell apart because who ever was playing the NT couldn't command a double team.

If the NT fails...then the Guards have free reign to our LBers...and our counter move is to bring up a SS.....leaving Wilcox in single high coverage. And he is horrible @ that. Takes piss more angles to the football. Throw in Hardy's freelancing ways...(He was really bad about setting the edge) and you have a recipe for disaster.

 

[Pessimist_cowboy]

Just read an article that said he was going to have 0 limitations going to the combine so I would say yes the knee is good. Was only the miniscuse, no acl or ligament damage so really not a huge deal in the grand scheme of things

If that's the case im starting to like the idea of selecting him. In nickle it would be Lee with Jack and Jack would start immediately. BUT! I will say that if we don't address the 1 tech it will be a wasted pick. In a perfect world we take Jack and Andrew billings.

 

[Rogerthat12]

You also don't reach for a WILL LB either.

I have doubts myself that Jack would be the 4th best player on the Cowboys board.

Jack can play all three LB spots and is an elite athletic LB that can cover sideline to sideline and play the run, he is explosive and catalytic.

Brugler and others have Jack with flex, not just confined to the will in the NFL.

The only question is do the Cowboys have him rated that high on their board?

Most evaluators have him ranked in their top 5-6 players in the entire draft.

 

[texbumthelife]

Place a guy like Billings or Robinson in front of him, and problem solved. Besides, it would make more sense to move Lee back to the inside and have Jack at WILL. Jack is better in coverage.

I don't think I would call a college kid who has yet to play a down in the NFL better in coverage than one of the best coverage backers in the game...

 

[Rogerthat12]

Unless you got a couple of DTs that can keep lineman off him.

Definitely needs an upgrade!

 

[texbumthelife]

Unless you got a couple of DTs that can keep lineman off him.

Right. To you and everyone else making this argument, I can only based my evaluation on what I see/have seen this team do. I can't say what they will do going forward. Getting Billings and/or another guy who can get push or clog the middle changes a lot of things.

Even in that case, I still think Jack is more suited to play weak side.