News: Stephen Jones: Jason Garrett's turning into a great coach; 'he's the hardest worker in the building'

[CCBoy]

Great CC. West Texas got a good cooling rain. Cowboys game this evening. Life is good. Was in San Antonio yesterday and it was HOT. 104 or so. The reason training camp is not there anymore I suppose.

Good to hear. I like to visit San Antonio, but wouldn't live there. It's fun for a night or weekend, although.

Keep the wraps on safe, as always my friend...enjoy the game on ESPN. I'm sure a little excited to watch our 'rook' quarterback in action. Oh, there will be bumps and bruises, but hey, I'm excited as well...take care.

 

[KJJ]

Name another owner/GM that would hire an unqualified head coach and spend 5 years of on the job training trying to develop them into a head coach, while missing the playoffs 4 out of 5 years?

 

[Mr Cowboy]

He is a puppet and is not very flexible. Nice guy but not a very good coach.

 

[Idgit]

As far as head coaching, I think Jason is actually pretty good. I have 0 doubt he's the hardest worker in the building. The dude is a robot, I don't know if he's even programmed not to try and achieve perfection.

But when assembled, I don't know if he was coded with the 'edge' that the year by year successful coaches have. Belichek is a robot too but you know he has it, the Harbaughs have it, Arians has it, Carroll, Rivera too. Tomlin as well, although I think he's a poorer version.

It's an intricate balance, and it's no doubt that the combination is why it's so hard to succeed in this parity driven league now.

It also doesn't help that the FO has squandered prime picks for much of his tenure, mainly 2nd round picks, but the Claiborne pick is another example. 0 doubt in my mind if the FO had been better, Jason would have had more success. You still need talent.

I totally get what you're saying. You saw a bit of that edge develop in 2014 later in the year when he trusted the team more on 4th downs and you could start to feel an attitude developing.

It's an elusive thing, but again, I think it gets easier when you have better players. Pretty much everything in this league comes down to your ability to draft and develop batter players.

 

[jwitten82]

Zimmerman is a good coach but Garett is better.

Lmao Garrett has done nothing to prove he is better than Zimmerman. Garrett has a hard time making the playoffs with Romo, and you think he can make it with Bridgewater?lol

 

[the_h0wey]

Garrett is in a terrific situation. He inherited a team with a franchise QB and despite only one winning/playoff season in his 5 full years as the head coach he still has a job. Look around the league and see if you can find another head coach who's team has only made the playoffs once in 5 years and still has a job with the same team. Garrett would've been lucky to last 3 seasons with another team going 8-8 each of those years and missing the playoffs.

You are absolutely right, however, unless your name is Parcells or Jimmy Johnson you will not succeed working under Jerruh Jones.

 

[the_h0wey]

That's your view...fair enough.

I kind of think that more is involved when this offense becomes top five again...

I'm aware that is my view.

How could this offense not be top 5 with Romo, Witten, Dez, the best line in the league, and what they view as the best player in this draft at RB?

 

[DFWJC]

Lmao Garrett has done nothing to prove he is better than Zimmerman. Garrett has a hard time making the playoffs with Romo, and you think he can make it with Bridgewater?lol

There is the other entre side of the game....it's called defense.

 

[CCBoy]

I'm aware that is my view.

How could this offense not be top 5 with Romo, Witten, Dez, the best line in the league, and what they view as the best player in this draft at RB?

And the conversational point was directed at...?

 

[KJJ]

You are absolutely right, however, unless your name is Parcells or Jimmy Johnson you will not succeed working under Jerruh Jones.

Jimmy was the only coach who "succeeded" under Jerry but you have to admit Garrett has been given more of a chance with the Cowboys than he would have been given with any other team. No team would have stayed with him this long.

 

[CCBoy]

There is the other entre side of the game....it's called defense.

Sir, excuse me...isn't that where people throw their own bodies at opponents at running speed?

 

[CCBoy]

You are absolutely right, however, unless your name is Parcells or Jimmy Johnson you will not succeed working under Jerruh Jones.

Simple...now provide beyond referencing an attitude or personal feeling. Use outside references to prove a point. Mood exchanges don't help unless unifying for a purpose. Complaints don't count.

 

[jwitten82]

There is the other entre side of the game....it's called defense.

Well Garretts had plenty of time to build a avg to good defense and he has failed.

 

[KJJ]

Apparently Stephen Jones must have seen the article with Garrett ranked as the 4th most likely head coach to get fired this season.

 

[Stash]

I'm aware that is my view.

How could this offense not be top 5 with Romo, Witten, Dez, the best line in the league, and what they view as the best player in this draft at RB?

Some want to act like it would be a huge accomplishment to finish Top 5 with the parts and investment made in this offense.

This is a 'steak on every plate' deal if ever there was one. There is not a team or coach in this entire league that has the number of Pro Bowlers and top draft picks at their disposal that this team's offense does. If they don't rank Top 5 or better at the very least, barring injury, these coaches should be run out of town on a rail!

 

[Stash]

Apparently Stephen Jones must have seen the article with Garrett ranked as the 4th most likely head coach to get fired this season.

 

[Sydla]

It always comes down to that, eventually. If you think he's making it up, that's your prerogative. I think he means it, and they put their money where their mouth is with the new contract. They have nothing to gain by telling everyone they think he's becoming a very good coach if in fact they don't think he is.

Buyer's remorse, possibly.

Remember, he got his extension before last year's debacle. And recall that Jones himself said it was unacceptable that we didn't win more games with Romo being out. That was a subtle but direct shot at the coaching staff.

 

[CCBoy]

Well Garretts had plenty of time to build a avg to good defense and he has failed.

By who's standard? Yours and the burn barrel bunch? When a coach assumes a coordinator's position, to build to his own style and scheme, he is given three seasons to get functional. Then, a single season to fine tune. This is year three for Marinelli being in charge. Get off a high horse...or get full fledged membership to the burn barrel if one so desires.

 

[Sydla]

Here's to the staff surprising all of us...but the group is a solid group. The entire group has pride, and experience. Jerry has a passion for winning...I'll still trust in the power of strong leadership that evaluates and adjusts at each turn of events. They put together a good team for play evaluations. I doubt that the scheme/player developments have been put on hold as well.

As to winning under Jerry Jones, the number of 10+ win seasons is at 11. That puts Dallas in the top 1/4 of the NFL.

6 of those came in the first 8 years he owned the team.

So 6 10+ win seasons in 8 years, then only 5 10+ wins in the next 19.

Only 3 10+ win seasons in the last ten seasons.

In other words, Jones looked great when he had Johnson around running everything. When he didn't have Johnson or the team Johnson built, Jones has been largely mediocre in his stewardship of the team.

 

[J_Allen]

He is the only coach I have ever seen who iced his own kicker. He may work hard, but as far as I'm concerned he's smart with no common sense.