PFF Gives Dak Bad Grade

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Sheez. His grade is 66.4 (basically, a D) Justin Durant was given a 77.9 grade. Get real.
https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro-dal-gb-grades-aaron-rodgers-earns-poor-grade-in-loss-to-cowboys

Players given higher grades...

Top offensive grades:

RB Ezekiel Elliott, 85.3
WR Cole Beasley, 81.9
C Travis Frederick, 80.7
OT Tyron Smith, 80.3
TE Jason Witten, 79.4

Top defensive grades:

ED David Irving, 87.9
S Barry Church, 86.1
S Byron Jones, 78.9
CB Morris Claiborne, 78.0
LB Justin Durant, 77.9

Anthony Brown had another very solid game....not sure where he fits in PFF's rankings
 

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He has a 117 rating, leads the game clenching drive, and you give him a "C?" God, Cowboys fans are ridiculous.
2 fumbles, 1 lost taking points off the board and 1 INT that led to points for the other team. That's an F.. the rest of the game, A - to B.. average a C. He could have very easily cost us the game with his play yesterday, just so happened our D kept them out of the endzone.
 

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2 fumbles, 1 lost taking points off the board and 1 INT that led to points for the other team. That's an F.. the rest of the game, A - to B.. average a C. He could have very easily cost us the game with his play yesterday, just so happened our D kept them out of the endzone.

and rodgers decided he didnt wanna really play football.
 

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No, they aren't on to something -- their analysis is ridiculous, as is yours.

One of Dak's turnovers was obviously not his fault considering he was hit while throwing. He missed a couple of throws during a very short shaky period, and then brushed it off to end in stellar fashion, including the game clinching TD. Oh, he also had a 117 rating against a very good defense. If you are "stunned" at the praise, then you are unfamiliar with how rookies tend to play under such circumstances.

This is true
He has done an absolutely amazing job but he does need to be more careful with the ball. The fumble that was recovered by us could have been devastating and should not have happened
 

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Um, what? Romo hasn't been good at Lambeau since 2008, and then he was 17-for-30 for 260 yards with one touchdown and one interception, i.e. lesser numbers than Dak's day.
Uh, his last game at Lambeau, he was stellar with a 140+ passer rating with a loss due to the rest of the team letting him down. Give me Romo's last game in Lambeau over any Dak has played so far.
 

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Yep, but if Bulter had caught the bomb, he might not have...
What's worse is Butler closed his eyes right before the ball got there.............that dude is straight up dumb.

I've lost patience with him.

We all make mistakes but normally we learn from them.

Butler invents new ones.
 

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What's worse is Butler closed his eyes right before the ball got there.............that dude is straight up dumb.

I've lost patience with him.

We all make mistakes but normally we learn from them.

Butler invents new ones.

at least they are new ones and not the same ones. lol
 

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Sheez. His grade is 66.4 (basically, a D) Justin Durant was given a 77.9 grade. Get real.
https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro-dal-gb-grades-aaron-rodgers-earns-poor-grade-in-loss-to-cowboys

Players given higher grades...

Top offensive grades:

RB Ezekiel Elliott, 85.3
WR Cole Beasley, 81.9
C Travis Frederick, 80.7
OT Tyron Smith, 80.3
TE Jason Witten, 79.4

Top defensive grades:

ED David Irving, 87.9
S Barry Church, 86.1
S Byron Jones, 78.9
CB Morris Claiborne, 78.0
LB Justin Durant, 77.9
Wonder if Lee received an "F" for knocking out Claiborne?
 

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I would give Dak a C for yesterday, he did some good things and he did some very bad things. Lucky for him, the QB on the other team did more bad things and thus we were able to win the game. But his play yesterday was not as good as it has been. He actually looked like a Rookie at points in that game.

Agreed.

It was a very uneven performance.

The pick was bad. The fumble were very bad.
 

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He has a 117 rating, leads the game clenching drive, and you give him a "C?" God, Cowboys fans are ridiculous.

Passer rating and PFF grades are determined in a much different way (obviously).

In the QB rating system there is no difference made in the way the INT was created. In the PFF system there is (and that was a bad INT- very bad throw).

Also the QB rating system does not include fumbles and those were also bad, which hurt his PFF grade a great deal.

Quite frankly for about 24 first-half minutes the offense was shoddy.

Dak recovered and put up some nice numbers but it was a very uneven performance IMO.
 

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Agreed.

It was a very uneven performance.

The pick was bad. The fumble were very bad.

I agree. However to me that is what made his overall performance even bigger. Sooner or later this was going to happen some bad mistake and it does happen to every QB out there. It is how you handle it after it happens that shows what kind of QB you are. Do you played scared after that? Or trying to do too much where you continue to cost yourself? Dak kept his cool and stayed under control and help produce some big plays and big scores to close the game out. To me that is what made this outing very big for him. Winning when you are less than perfect!!!
 

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I agree. However to me that is what made his overall performance even bigger. Sooner or later this was going to happen some bad mistake and it does happen to every QB out there. It is how you handle it after it happens that shows what kind of QB you are. Do you played scared after that? Or trying to do too much where you continue to cost yourself? Dak kept his cool and stayed under control and help produce some big plays and big scores to close the game out. To me that is what made this outing very big for him. Winning when you are less than perfect!!!

I agree his response was stellar, but it doesn't wipe away the bad that had occurred.

Hopefully it's something he learns from.
 

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He stood in the pocket too long and didn't hit his checkdown. His getting hit in the process was certainly his fault there. Statistically he gets away with it being a fumble rather than an interception, but that was entirely on him.

I'm not saying he isn't playing well or playing well for a rookie, but people are suggesting he replace a top 5 QB. I think it's ridiculous. Had we lost this game, if we had the poor teams we've had in the past, and Romo made these mistakes he would have been tarred and feathered.

Dak's mistakes here were worse than Romo's as they were all unforced to a degree. He could have hit that checkdown and he just let the ball slip out of his hands. The interception was on a very bad pass, and he got away with a couple others.

not even sure what game you are watching. we're 5-1 and playing as a team. i love me some romo and feel like he's vastly underrated but when winning, you keep on winning until what you are doing to win stops working.

and he's not "replacing romo" romo would be coming back to replace him. all that you are coming up with you're making up as you go. romo has fumbled for no reason. he's throw interceptions for less reasons.

other than pre-determined rules of play and historically this would be our normal steps, this isn't normal.

but it *is* historical.

let him keep playing.
 

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I agree his response was stellar, but it doesn't wipe away the bad that had occurred.

Hopefully it's something he learns from.

No it doesn't but fact is all QB are going to have bad things happen in games, even Brady will make a poor play or have a costly fumble. He does not let them deter him from getting the job done. You shake it off and get ready for the next possession. I think Dak is learning a lot but just as with any sport mistakes will be made it is how you overcome the mistake that goes a long way.

I watch some guys throw a pick and next thing they are trying to guild balls instead of cutting it loose or you start hesitating because you don't want to make another mistake yet the hesitation allows the DB to recover after initially getting beat. Part of being great is how you deal with adversity and your own mistakes.
 

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I'm curious as to whether they factor in fumbles into that metric.

Yes they do!

Fumbles figure large.

Fumbles aren't including the Quarterback Rating, hence a big reason why one rating can very so much from the other.

Also "INTs" aren't differentiated in the Quarterback Rating– a pick is a pick is a pick.

Not so in the PFF rating system. A ball the receiver has his fingers on but "pops" up in the air and is picked isn't likely to damage the QB's rating in the PFF system BUT a ball that is thrown directly to the defender like the one yesterday is going to damage one's ratings.
 

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3 turnovers 3 tds should result in a bad grade. QBs have bad games. He responded to a lot of crap play by doing enough to let the team win comfortably. Im fine with any adversity he faces because he hasnt dealt with much. Its ok to admit when a player on your favorite team plays poorly and it should be easy to do win the team wins anyway.

2 tos. 1 int, and 1 fumble lost.
 
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