Romo Scenarios and their cap hits

[ErikWilliamsHeadSlap]

The Los Angeles Rams.

So when Goff ***** the bed in his ...ahem...much awaited debut and the Rams realize they have made a HUGE mistake or even just conclude he is a couple of years away, why not pursue Tony? Dallas are not getting a first rounder. Not going to happen. Jerry is friends with Kroenke. L.A. loves star power. They have the defence. They have a running back. The O-line aint horrible.

Thoughts?


Or a young Jags team laden with a lot of talent but also a head coach out of his depth and on his way out. And they lack a QB. And have an owner showing he is willing to spend in free agency.

 

[phildadon86]

He won't be a back up in Dallas, ther is no way.
Either he gets traded to a team of his choosing or he gets cut and goes out and test the market where he will have good offers. Jerry owes him that much, he pretty much will decide his future.

If hes cut, whats the dead money look like for us? Wouldnt it be better to retire then unannounce your retirement? A La Favre

 

[Nightman]

A month ago I said there would be a dozen teams interested in Romo if we make him available for trade........some will pay more than others but someone will pay big

WAS- Cousins is on a 1 year deal
CHI- Cutler is done
MINN- Bradford is not the answer
SF- Gabbernick
AZ- Carson is a ?????
LA- Goff might not be ready
BUFF- huge option bonus for Taylor
NYJ- no question
MIA- Tanney Down Hill
JAX- Broken Bortles
HOU- the Wizard is not Oz
CLE- yup
KC- Smith is average at best
DEN- Peyton II the sequel

and then someone might get hurt like Bridgewater

it will take patience but something will get done after June 1st even if it is agreed to with a handshake before then(unless it is too good to pass up and we will just eat the full 19.6 and get it over with)

 

[T-RO]

A month ago I said there would be a dozen teams interested in Romo if we make him available for trade........some will pay more than others but someone will pay big

WAS- Cousins is on a 1 year deal
CHI- Cutler is done
MINN- Bradford is not the answer
SF- Gabbernick
AZ- Carson is a ?????
LA- Goff might not be ready
BUFF- huge option bonus for Taylor
NYJ- no question
MIA- Tanney Down Hill
JAX- Broken Bortles
HOU- the Wizard is not Oz
CLE- yup
KC- Smith is average at best
DEN- Peyton II the sequel

and then someone might get hurt like Bridgewater

it will take patience but something will get done after June 1st even if it is agreed to with a handshake before then(unless it is too good to pass up and we will just eat the full 19.6 and get it over with)

I say you are grossly mistaken, but I've already expressed the basis of my argument and rest my case.

We'll see this offseason.

 

[Nightman]

I say you are grossly mistaken, but I've already expressed the basis of my argument and rest my case.

We'll see this offseason.

Your favorite hobby is challenging me with little to go on but hubris

 

[T-RO]

Your favorite hobby is challenging me with little to go on but hubris

Things posted on this forum pass through your head as if your head is empty. I start to think it is! I already presented an array of reasons that will smother most if not all trade parties. I'm not going to repeat myself again.

When the spring comes...I'll happily revisit. I got you down: You say 12 teams will be vying to trade for Romo.

 

[Q_the_man]

I don't think its a financial decision at the end of the day, but I do think Romo is traded. They owe it to him to let him play somewhere instead of being a backup in Dallas. And given the dearth of QBs, Dallas should be able to get multiple premium draft picks back for trading him. It sad in a way, but it makes sense all the way around.

If we could get a 1st for Romo I will **** in my pants.

 

[Q_the_man]

I'd love for Tony to get traded so I can continue to root for him...and I can enjoy a second favorite team.

If he is traded the Cowboys will be fortunate to get one second or one third round draft pick. His salary will be a major deterrence as will the risk of his health and age. It's possible he will be entirely untradeable due to salary/age/risk.

45% chance he gets traded
45% chance he retires or is cut before 2017 football starts
10% chance he is retained as a Cowboy in for 2017 football

If Romo gets traded he will definitely restructure his contract knowing he has no guaranteed money if cut.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I think people overrate Romo's trade value. How much is a team willing to trade for a guy who's in danger of getting hurt every season he plays?

 

[RoboQB]

I think that was an incredibly unique situation, and the Eagles were incredibly lucky to find a team in the position the Vikings were in.

When Bridgewater went down, the Vikings had a Hall of Fame running back, their offensive line intact, and a Super Bowl caliber defense. The only part of the championship equation they were lacking was the quarterback. And they were willing to pay through the nose to get one.

Not only that, but there was a coach on the Vikings' staff who knew and loved Sam Bradford and campaigned to get him there.

I don't know if there is a similar 'perfect storm' out there where a team would do the same thing to get Romo.

Best scenario would be Drew Brees has season/career ending injury. Sean Payton would be on the phone pronto.
Not wishing injury on Brees... just searching for that perfect storm.

 

[LittleD]

DAL won't just release him......his contract is do-able as is.......we aren't paying Dak squat

they will keep him as back-up and restructure his deal to save 9m on the cap hit ......plus they will save 2m by cutting Sanchez

My buddy, Romo is not going to be a happy camper being a backup for anybody. Jerry will release him if they make the decision
that Dak is the future now and next year. Romo wants to play and wants one more chance to build his legacy. He's definitley
not going to be a clip board holder.

 

[LittleD]

Great.
Excellent job!

Sounds like there is enough money to bring in a DE or so, even if we bring back a CB or 2, a SS or 2, a WR or 2, as well as DT Mcclain...

I think Witten is in the top 5, they may or may not want to rework him?
But there are others to restructure so that sounds good...
Romo can stay or be traded, depending on how everyone feels.

Given enough cap, Romo can wait for an open competition in 2017.
It would not kill Dak to be backup if he loses the competition for a year or so.
I still think Romo is better off as a backup given his health.

You might think he's better off as a backup but, I guarantee you that he doesn't think that ever.
He loves competition and playing. He's not going to be happy holding a clip board on the
sidelines. Not ever!

 

[LittleD]

If we could get a 1st for Romo I will **** in my pants.

Not going to happen...Better start taking some ex-lax.

 

[Falco78]

I hope he is traded and I think he'd be a great fit for Houston. He has helped this team in huge ways and if it is for a legit opportunity and he redoes his contract I'd be thrilled with a 2nd rounder or two 3rd round picks from Houston.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

W\e need a backup. I don't want Kellen Moore as Dak's backup in 2017. Better to keep him around for next season. Then the year after, we can trade him for a 2nd round pick.

A 38/39-year-old for a 2nd round pick in 2018????
...
Sounds plausible!

 

[SDCowboy]

Agreed, but there is another option.
Open competition in 2017.

Loser is backup, will be supportive and does not backstab.
If Romo wins and gets injured AGAIN, he should willing be the backup.
That would even for his own good.

People need to seriously give this open competition thing a rest. It ain't happening. For a multitude of reasons.

 

[_sturt_]

Jones and Son Incorporated and Tony had thought all along that he would play out this contract and, potentially, retire at its conclusion depending on his health.

The team also had thought all along they would be paying both Tony and for a back-up QB, probably in the neighborhood of $3-5m/yr through 2019, and then would turn the corner to the next someone.

So, just from a budgeting perspective, for all the talk, the situation hasn't actually changed that much on the ledger--mostly just a discount on what they thought they'd be paying for the not-Romo QB since Dak's on his rookie contract.

That's why when Jerry says he doesn't actually have to make any move and that he can see Romo playing through in Big D, it's actually a legitimate assertion. He could. It might not be the smartest way to proceed, but then again, it also might not be the dumbest, given how vital high quality QBs are to a team's success and how hard they can be to find... and how often teams find themselves changing QBs due to injury or a reduction in performance--I think I counted about 1/3 of NFC teams had switched QBs since training camp, and that's just a relatively short time, testifying to, what we all know is, the precarious nature of it all.

The key to me is Romo himself. And if it's true, as has been reported, that a lot of his heartbreak in this is that he genuinely has a preference to stick around, then it's not as-if he's going to make a whole lot more money somewhere else. It boils down, then, to "can Romo stomach being the #2?"

I don't pretend to know, and I'm guessing he doesn't really know and won't really know until the off-season hits.

I do know that if he accepts it, then it potentially sets him up for a longer career--perhaps even an additional 2-4 years. And that might be the bottom line incentive in accepting it. The hits he doesn't take now, just make it that much more likely that he's still a marketable commodity at the end of this contract.

Can't dismiss that.

 

[waldoputty]

You might think he's better off as a backup but, I guarantee you that he doesn't think that ever.
He loves competition and playing. He's not going to be happy holding a clip board on the
sidelines. Not ever!

You may be right.
I hope you are wrong, in that he would agree to an open competition in camp - winner starts and loser supportively backups.
If Romo is confident and a competitor, an open competition may satisfy his competitive spirit.
If he cannot beat Dak in a fair fight, how is he going to beat Brady in NE, Dak in Dallas etc for the Super Bowl.
I presume winning a ring is all that matters?

 

[LittleD]

You may be right.
I hope you are wrong, in that he would agree to an open competition in camp - winner starts and loser supportively backups.
If Romo is confident and a competitor, an open competition may satisfy his competitive spirit.
If he cannot beat Dak in a fair fight, how is he going to beat Brady in NE, Dak in Dallas etc for the Super Bowl.
I presume winning a ring is all that matters?

Not for a top QB. To them, it's winning a SB and being the QB that leads them. That establishes their legacy.
Romo does not desire to be a backup on a SB winning team, I assure you of that.

 

[Nightman]

Jones and Son Incorporated and Tony had thought all along that he would play out this contract and, potentially, retire at its conclusion depending on his health.

The team also had thought all along they would be paying both Tony and for a back-up QB, probably in the neighborhood of $3-5m/yr through 2019, and then would turn the corner to the next someone.

So, just from a budgeting perspective, for all the talk, the situation hasn't actually changed that much on the ledger--mostly just a discount on what they thought they'd be paying for the not-Romo QB since Dak's on his rookie contract.

That's why when Jerry says he doesn't actually have to make any move and that he can see Romo playing through in Big D, it's actually a legitimate assertion. He could. It might not be the smartest way to proceed, but then again, it also might not be the dumbest, given how vital high quality QBs are to a team's success and how hard they can be to find... and how often teams find themselves changing QBs due to injury or a reduction in performance--I think I counted about 1/3 of NFC teams had switched QBs since training camp, and that's just a relatively short time, testifying to, what we all know is, the precarious nature of it all.

The key to me is Romo himself. And if it's true, as has been reported, that a lot of his heartbreak in this is that he genuinely has a preference to stick around, then it's not as-if he's going to make a whole lot more money somewhere else. It boils down, then, to "can Romo stomach being the #2?"

I don't pretend to know, and I'm guessing he doesn't really know and won't really know until the off-season hits.

I do know that if he accepts it, then it potentially sets him up for a longer career--perhaps even an additional 2-4 years. And that might be the bottom line incentive in accepting it. The hits he doesn't take now, just make it that much more likely that he's still a marketable commodity at the end of this contract.

Can't dismiss that.

Great post......none of us know for sure........no one saw Dak coming

I do not think Romo will accept being a back-up and I do not think DAL will give him away for nothing just to make him happy.......they will do a sign and trade to help him along though