NFL held an owners-only meeting in Arizona

robjay04 said:
Question...

I am assuming Goodell would have to sign off on any agreement between the owners and the NFLPA.

Would my assumptions be accurate?

I'm pretty sure there are probably enough owners that are fed up with having their players suspended over a joint that is more than just a fantasy considering the NFLPA would agree.
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Goodell does what the owners tell him. The owners would have to agree on eliminating the weed testing. Goodell can't make that decision by himself.

The issue is that the owners never want to give up anything for "free". They'll want to get something back from the players in exchange. The owners should request that the players go back to having more padded practices. Those were significantly reduced in the past CBA. In reality, the owners will want something back related to money.

The current CBA is for 10 years and started in 2011. Normally, the owners would probably like to hold on to the weed testing until then because it gives them leverage; however, I don't think this issue can wait that long. Now that weed is legal in many states, the players are getting more and more irritated about the testing.
 
xwalker said:
Goodell does what the owners tell him. The owners would have to agree on eliminating the weed testing. Goodell can't make that decision by himself.

The issue is that the owners never want to give up anything for "free". They'll want to get something back from the players in exchange. The owners should request that the players go back to having more padded practices. Those were significantly reduced in the past CBA. In reality, the owners will want something back related to money.

The current CBA is for 10 years and started in 2011. Normally, the owners would probably like to hold on to the weed testing until then because it gives them leverage; however, I don't think this issue can wait that long. Now that weed is legal in many states, the players are getting more and more irritated about the testing.
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As I stated in another thread, the current AG has publicly hinted towards cracking down on the states where its legal. The President stated in his campaign that it should be a state decision but we all know sometimes things change after an election.

Regardless, this might give owners against overturning the rule some leverage. If the federal government is publicly hinting on starting to enforce our federal marijuana drugs again then it might not be the right time.

Regardless, I don't view this as much as an actual legal issue as common sense. Drinking and driving is illegal as well and is a problem in the NFL but I don't see the NFL pushing to install interlock devices on player vehicles. It's one thing if it's a PED but it seems a little far reaching for any employer, much less an employer that relies as heavily on their employees as the NFL, to make people pee in the cup to make sure they aren't smoking any joints.

If you get caught and face charges, that's on you and the NFL has a right to suspend you.
 
robjay04 said:
As I stated in another thread, the current AG has publicly hinted towards cracking down on the states where its legal. The President stated in his campaign that it should be a state decision but we all know sometimes things change after an election.

Regardless, this might give owners against overturning the rule some leverage. If the federal government is publicly hinting on starting to enforce our federal marijuana drugs again then it might not be the right time.

Regardless, I don't view this as much as an actual legal issue as common sense. Drinking and driving is illegal as well and is a problem in the NFL but I don't see the NFL pushing to install interlock devices on player vehicles. It's one thing if it's a PED but it seems a little far reaching for any employer, much less an employer that relies as heavily on their employees as the NFL, to make people pee in the cup to make sure they aren't smoking any joints.

If you get caught and face charges, that's on you and the NFL has a right to suspend you.
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i think the current administration draws the line between medical and recreational use.
if the NFL does that, then i am sure gregory can get his permission slip from his doctor.
 
robjay04 said:
As I stated in another thread, the current AG has publicly hinted towards cracking down on the states where its legal. The President stated in his campaign that it should be a state decision but we all know sometimes things change after an election.

Regardless, this might give owners against overturning the rule some leverage. If the federal government is publicly hinting on starting to enforce our federal marijuana drugs again then it might not be the right time.

Regardless, I don't view this as much as an actual legal issue as common sense. Drinking and driving is illegal as well and is a problem in the NFL but I don't see the NFL pushing to install interlock devices on player vehicles. It's one thing if it's a PED but it seems a little far reaching for any employer, much less an employer that relies as heavily on their employees as the NFL, to make people pee in the cup to make sure they aren't smoking any joints.

If you get caught and face charges, that's on you and the NFL has a right to suspend you.
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There is no benefit to the owners to test for weed. A big part of the reason that it became part of the rules is so that they owners could use it in negotiations in the future. Players were focused on money issues and didn't fight back on other issues back then.

People in government like to blabber about hot-button topics. Most of the public has softened on issues with weed over the years.
 
It's amazing that Goodell has any support for another contract, at any pay rate. He is the weakest link.

#legalizeit
 
LatinMind said:
love the part where it say, owners think they pay goodell too much.
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If he made a reported 44 million one year as reported recently, I am gonna go out on a limb and say he's a tad over paid. If they can afford to pay that stiff that kind of money, goes to show the league is absolutely printing money.
 
xwalker said:
There is no benefit to the owners to test for weed. A big part of the reason that it became part of the rules is so that they owners could use it in negotiations in the future. Players were focused on money issues and didn't fight back on other issues back then.

People in government like to blabber about hot-button topics. Most of the public has softened on issues with weed over the years.
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The policy dates back to the 70s when Rozelle was trying to get permission from the feds for an antitrust exemption for TV. That was also the time that Nixon was initiating his war on drugs.

They did not test for PEDs until the 1980s after Alzado's death gave them a huge hit to their image.

The NFL embodies the worst about modern corporate culture. A disregard for the human experience beyond a profit motive.
 
RS12 said:
If he made a reported 44 million one year as reported recently, I am gonna go out on a limb and say he's a tad over paid. If they can afford to pay that stiff that kind of money, goes to show the league is absolutely printing money.
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No body is worth 44 million a year. I don't care what industry. :rolleyes:

As for dropping the weed testing...Didn't you always suspect Jerry wanted to take a ride on the wild side?:oldcouple:
 
Asking the players to give something up is a pretty smart move on Jerry's part. Not only is it a win-win for owners who stand to benefit from no longer testing, but it's a tact to give the other owners who may be opposed to the move a good reason for going along with it.

It would be nice if they gave up something like more practice time.
 
key words lol
"For now, though, it appears that dramatic changes aren’t coming, on any of those points."

So jerry planted a seed, which may grow, but it will take time.
 
It should have been done away with yrs ago. Let the clubs handle and discipline the "Offenders". It makes no sense for the League to get involved and keep shooting itself in the foot.
 
DFWJC said:
Didnt the NBA and MLB stop testi g for it years ago?
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Half right on that one DFWJC. The NBA still tests for it but the players pretty much know when the tests are going to take place. They are subject to four (4 ) "random" drug tests throughout the season and are not tested in the offseason. MLB doesn't test their players unless there is a reasonable cause to suspect a player is using it. Major Leaguers pretty much have to come in smelling like Snoop Dogg, Willie Nelson or Bill Maher in order to be tested. The NHL doesn't test all of its players, 1/3 of its players are tested randomly for street drugs. NHL players who test positive for marijuana are not disciplined, although they could be referred to a substance-abuse program.

The thing about the other Major sports is that their player Unions are ridiculously strong. The NFLPA is the weakest of the bunch by a substantial margin although DeMaurice has been steadily chipping away at the current status quo.
 
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