NFL held an owners-only meeting in Arizona

[dallasfan4lizife]

I am not saying you are wrong...far from it. Gregory is a kid and his punishment should have fit his crime. ln the real world the public wouldn't have even heard about it. What he did was what many, many young people do everyday and was blown way out of any logical proportion.

I think weed is harmless, and these players shouldn't be screwed out of their career because of it....

BUT, rules are rules. And if the company you're working for is paying you handsomely to work there, then it's your responsibility to follow the rules.

 

[Swanny]

I agree with the fact that rules are rules. If you want to work for that employer then follow them if you want to stay as an employee for that company.

But and there's a big but. The prescription drugs these guys take are FAR MORE hurtful and addictive to them than weed. I think they should not test for weed just for that reason alone. These guys are better off smoking pot that getting addicted to pain killers

This comes from a guy who has never smoked ANYTHING in my life but I have family members whose lives have been stolen and or destroyed by prescription drugs.

 

[Typhus]

The testing done on marijuana driving impairment does not show a significant increase in accidents during road tests.

There is no need and not everydecision needs to be centered around law enforcement having the easiest job possible.

That's not the point, what I'm saying is there currently no testing procedure that places the influence of the drug within a 24 hr time frame.
Alcohol, breathalyzer can determine that time frame, due to the nature of alcohol and how it is displaced within that amount of time.
You can not accurately determine the time frame of someone that has used Marijuana with the current 50 nanometer testing procedures, since THC stays in your fat cells for an extended period of time, way past being under the influence of the drug.
For instance, a Truck driver that is subject to random testing by DOT, even if he lives in a state where Marijuana is now legal, can test positive and loose his CDL license, his job, and not allowed to work in the industry again for a period of time, I believe its 5 yrs...... for smoking a joint a month ago, while he was off work.

 

[haleyrules]

I think weed is harmless, and these players shouldn't be screwed out of their career because of it....

BUT, rules are rules. And if the company you're working for is paying you handsomely to work there, then it's your responsibility to follow the rules.

Agreed. The Teams should be the ones making the decision. That l could live with. If Jones said any employee or player caught using pot will lose their jobs l would say so be it. I don't have an issue with that.

 

[JoeKing]

Platoon came out in the early 1980s and was rated R. Half of the adult world could not go and see it if they were even born at that point when it came out and near as many when it hit syndication a few years later.

Now I realize that giving obscure movie quotes and then being condescending when people don't get it is fun but all you are doing is showing that you are old.

Condescending? Not at all. That is your M.O. and you can keep it. Have a blessed day Fuzzy.

 

[Oh_Canada]

Out of curiosity, where is it a federal crime to commit fraud or possess marijuana? There are specifics in laws/crimes like that before they become federal.....

I don't know when FBI is involved? As was the case with Cleveland owner.

I never said anything about marijuana. OP mentioned marijuana.

 

[Melonfeud]

Were you smoking when you typed this? Wth

The local county jail would be half empty if they legalized it. Which is probably why they don't..jails a big business, and they need customers

It's a quote from the movie
' platoon' Sgt.Barnes/ Tom Berenger,,,, classic scene actually.

 

[erod]

"Dude, it's like 3rd and 15, man. What should we do, bro?"

"I'm like, going deep, man. Just throw it."

"Hahahahahahaha!"

 

[robjay04]

The world today blames the rules rather than the rulebreaker too much already. These players know the rules when they sign their contract. If you can't lay off the smoke, then you better be prepared to out of work, period. Absolutely NO excuse.

I didn't say they have an excuse. You are required to follow the rules. If the league and the NFLPA fees the rule is outdated, they can change it.

The league changes modifies rules every year, this is no different.

 

[GhostOfPelluer]

Platoon came out in the early 1980s and was rated R. Half of the adult world could not go and see it if they were even born at that point when it came out and near as many when it hit syndication a few years later.

Now I realize that giving obscure movie quotes and then being condescending when people don't get it is fun but all you are doing is showing that you are old.

We're all pretty bizarre. Some of us are just better at hiding it, that's all.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Most jobs that compensate their players very well do not force their employees to take random drug tests for marijuana.

How do you come to this conclusion?

 

[Doomsday101]

I wish Airlines would stop testing pilots.

 

[Fritsch_the_cat]

Nevwr tried it, never will, but couldn't care less if other people do it.

More relevant than Platoon. Section444's first time.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Friendly reminder, lets keep this discussion about how this effects the NFL. Do not broaden the scope and change it into a Religious War over weed.

 

[LocimusPrime]

Condescending? Not at all. That is your M.O. and you can keep it. Have a blessed day Fuzzy.

Platoon, full metal jacket, rocky, top gun, karate, pretty woman -all iconic movies.

Transcends all generations

Whenever I hear the top gun song by berlin i start driving too fast. My girl says - slow down maverick.

 

[BrassCowboy]

I think weed is harmless, and these players shouldn't be screwed out of their career because of it....

BUT, rules are rules. And if the company you're working for is paying you handsomely to work there, then it's your responsibility to follow the rules.

I agree with most of what you said, just not sure what you mean by "if the company you're working for is paying you handsomely". I mean that is all relative, isn't it? I would say that if you agree to work there under whatever rules and terms the company sets (assuming no breakage of laws of course), then you abide by whatever rules they set if you wish to remain employed there.

 

[khiladi]

I read an article by a former WWF/WWE employee speaking about the steroids scandal during the Hulk Hogan and Vince McMahon era and how this led to PED testing that included marijuana. He said that was damaging, because instead of dealing with the pain they faced everyday by simply smoking weed and being relaxed in their hotel, they went out to the bars to get drunk and mix pain killers, and were often times acting like idiots.

The same is the case with NFL players. They deal with tremendous pain and anybody that says that they should just deal with it, because of the check are just preaching from the podium of self-righteousness.

And the issue of PEDs and drug testing in relation to week is absurd anyways, because, besides the fact one can get around PED usage with a doctor's prescription, weed isn't a PED...

 

[Nightman]

Players can use the non-THC creams for pain management.....most just want to get high

 

[robjay04]

How do you come to this conclusion?

My own personal life.

I have worked for the two of the biggest financial institutions in the country over the few years and have had zero drug tests, much less a random test. Actually I haven't had a drug test since I stopped working entry level jobs. Employers that compete for employees are not forcing employees to randomly take a drug test.

The following article is two years old, I would assume that the rate is even lower now.

www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/wonk/wp/2015/03/10/companies-drug-test-a-lot-less-than-they-used-to-because-it-doesnt-really-work/

 

[robjay04]

I agree with most of what you said, just not sure what you mean by "if the company you're working for is paying you handsomely". I mean that is all relative, isn't it? I would say that if you agree to work there under whatever rules and terms the company sets (assuming no breakage of laws of course), then you abide by whatever rules they set if you wish to remain employed there.

I don't disagree. There is no excuse for a player not to follow the rules.

If the employer realizes that the rule is stupid and wants to change it, there is nothing wrong with that.