The nerve is officially firing***merged***

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I realize that him using the leg, and muscles will not cause injury.. What I am concerned is that whatever physical limitations he may have, however slight, might cause him to end up in a slightly awkward position causing injury.

Videos have shown for several weeks that he displays no discernible deficits in agility drills; I close as I've looked, I cannot detect any asymmetry or compensation. Whether with or without a brace or tape, that is the true measure of function.

As more time passes leading up to camp, the resolution of his palsy will become even more complete, and he probably won't need anything more than tape. On that subject, it would be my recommendation that all FB players have their ankles taped, and many (especially OL) should wear knee braces. These guys are too valuable to leave unprotected.

Helmets will aso see some improvements soon, but that's another subject.
 

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Quasi my ***. I have repeatedly stated I have no professional experience with medicine. All I see is someone who cannot give credit where it is due and just face up to the fact that I was right. These passive aggressive posts are completely classless.

It was a still of him jumping not his MRI. You don't need high resolution to see the orientation of a foot or to see if someone has their calf strapped with a brace.

I did the best that I could with the information available to us. All you do is take pot shots and criticize.

Credit where credit is due... LOL....

You seem like the type that runs around begging for people's praise. And face up to the fact that you were right? Lol. What are you smoking? What makes you think I give a damn one way or another if you are right?
 

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This is really the first news that I view as really positive in relation to Smith's recovery.

I doubt anyone noticed but I've barely even been in any of the Jaylon Smith threads at all. If I even commented, it was likely just goofing around and not actually addressing the situation. I stayed away because, well... nobody really knew what was going to happen. I saw no reason for pessimism or optimism particularly (although I'm an optimist by nature). So, I saw no reason to debate one way or another on the subject.

I pretty much just crossed my fingers and hoped for it to work out. Lord knows the guy deserves to have a good NFL career. Terrific person. Terrific attitude. Terrific work ethic in trying to come back.

This news though, is real news. Something we can sink our teeth into and it is very, very good news indeed.

If he's moving his toes, that tells me that the nerve regeneration has already moved through the foot and is nearing the end of its journey (at the toes). My understanding is that the nerve heals, regenerates, fires or whatever you want to call it, from the knee first and then slowly down through the ankle and foot, and then finally down to the toes.

Again, my understanding is that the real danger of spending a second round pick on him was that the nerve might never regenerate, leaving him permanently with drop foot. Since the nerve is obviously healing and he is regaining movement and feeling in the afflicted area, it seems to be confirmation that the worst fears aren't true and that it's only a matter of time before he's pretty much back to normal.

What is probably most encouraging to me is the team confirming that the healing (or noticeable healing) has significantly sped up in recent weeks. Having a marked improvement over the last three weeks bodes very well for his ability to play without a brace this season, in my non-professional opinion.

So, while there are still hurdles to clear, the giant one that worried people the most, seems to have been successfully navigated. He still hasn't played football in over a year but he hasn't been away from the team... he's been in every meeting and has been picking the brain of Sean Lee, the coaches, etc. and is sure to have a firm grasp of the scheme and what will be required of him. And while he hasn't played, he has been rehabbing and working out like a mad man. He is in shape and ready to get back in football shape.

Overall, this is huge for him and for the Dallas defense.


Somebody quick get this man a beer
 

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Credit where credit is due... LOL....

You seem like the type that runs around begging for people's praise. And face up to the fact that you were right? Lol. What are you smoking? What makes you think I give a damn one way or another if you are right?

Really? Fuzzy took a lot of lumps over all the research he did. I think he is entitled to some of those who gave him **** and pissed all over him calling him a liar, and stating he was wrong and didn't know what he's talking about. Honestly Fuzzy has been right. I don't see a single problem with him wanting people to own up to it. IMO it makes you a bigger person to say hey man you were right good job! But nope same people still talking ****.
 

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Really? Fuzzy took a lot of lumps over all the research he did. I think he is entitled to some of those who gave him **** and pissed all over him calling him a liar, and stating he was wrong and didn't know what he's talking about. Honestly Fuzzy has been right. I don't see a single problem with him wanting people to own up to it. IMO it makes you a bigger person to say hey man you were right good job! But nope same people still talking ****.



So.... exactly why do I need to give him credit then?
 

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Fuzzy was NOT fuzzy on this. Those that screamed that Smith would never play a down and that it was obvious should be held to account.


What does that have to do with me, then? You still haven't answered why I should specifically give him credit.
 

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Ian Rapoport‏Verified account @RapSheet
Ian Rapoport Retweeted Around The NFL

Jaylon Smith can lift his toes. This is good news.

Ian Rapoport added,

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Around The NFLVerified account @AroundTheNFL
Nerve in Jaylon Smith's knee regenerating; Cowboys LB slowly gaining muscle control, @RapSheet reports http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...n-pick-toes-up-lift-foot?campaign=Twitter_atn
The nerve of that guy!!!
 

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did you diss him in any of the threads?


Oh yeah, I mocked him. But not because of what his opinion was.

My opinion once Jaylon was drafted was that it was high risk/high reward. I was in favor of it because he had potential to be a true difference maker if he could come back. I had no idea if he would come back or not... and never got into the debates about that specific issue. I am not a doctor nor a quasi - doctor like some here.

What I took issue with is how Fuzzy ridiculed and was condescending to anyone who didn't just shut up and believe his grainy photos and innerwebs research.

I have no idea if Fuzzy believed Jaylon was worth the risk drafting (but, given the amount of time he put into the issue; if I had to guess, I would say yes). And, if that is true, then our opinion is actually quite similar. He seems adamant about Jaylon being able to be play. I was less certain. But I was far less concerned with actually getting into the debates about it.

So.... no.... not going to give him any credit. Yes, I will probably still mock him whenever he is an ***, because, well, the ones who were adamant that Jaylon wasn't going to play have gone silent. And even though that wasn't my opinion, Fuzzy was pompous throughout his arguments with them.
 

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I'm as guilty as the next guy, guiltier, actually, of participating when threads become about posters and not topics sometimes. But in this case, can we all just agree to move on? It appears the posters who believed evidence suggested consistent progress for Smith were right. For sure, they took a lot of heat for those suggestions. For sure, a lot of the guesswork was surmised and the debates weren't always friendly.

The end result appears to be at least marginally good news for the Cowboys and some vindication for that side of the debate. Whatever cache there is in that can be spent the next time the parties inevitably lock horns. But it'd be great if it didn't dominate another Jaylon thread.

That's my poster-opinion, btw and not a moderator opinion. Anybody with me?
 

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Oh yeah, I mocked him. But not because of what his opinion was.

My opinion once Jaylon was drafted was that it was high risk/high reward. I was in favor of it because he had potential to be a true difference maker if he could come back. I had no idea if he would come back or not... and never got into the debates about that specific issue. I am not a doctor nor a quasi - doctor like some here.

What I took issue with is how Fuzzy ridiculed and was condescending to anyone who didn't just shut up and believe his grainy photos and innerwebs research.

I have no idea if Fuzzy believed Jaylon was worth the risk drafting (but, given the amount of time he put into the issue; if I had to guess, I would say yes). And, if that is true, then our opinion is actually quite similar. He seems adamant about Jaylon being able to be play. I was less certain. But I was far less concerned with actually getting into the debates about it.

So.... no.... not going to give him any credit. Yes, I will probably still mock him whenever he is an ***, because, well, the ones who were adamant that Jaylon wasn't going to play have gone silent. And even though that wasn't my opinion, Fuzzy was pompous throughout his arguments with them.


In Cal Poly's defense, he isn't voluntarily silent on the topic here. I'm sure he'd participate in the thread otherwise. He's not avoiding the topic, just bad timing for him.
 

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I'm as guilty as the next guy, guiltier, actually, of participating when threads become about posters and not topics sometimes. But in this case, can we all just agree to move on? It appears the posters who believed evidence suggested consistent progress for Smith were right. For sure, they took a lot of heat for those suggestions. For sure, a lot of the guesswork was surmised and the debates weren't always friendly.

The end result appears to be at least marginally good news for the Cowboys and some vindication for that side of the debate. Whatever cache there is in that can be spent the next time the parties inevitably lock horns. But it'd be great if it didn't dominate another Jaylon thread.

That's my poster-opinion, btw and not a moderator opinion. Anybody with me?

I don't know... I am still recovering over the apparent loss of CowboyChris.
 

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Sean Lee isn't hurt and Jaylon is doing just fine. We don't need to use a draft pick on a LB. We have greater needs elsewhere.

Sean Lee has had 1 healthy year, how can you be so sure that wasn't just a lucky year...he's on the plus side of 30...Until I see Smith in the regular season, I'm not counting on him. I still view it as wasted, we had needs on defense that needed to addressed immediately...this team waste to many second round picks.
 

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In Cal Poly's defense, he isn't voluntarily silent on the topic here. I'm sure he'd participate in the thread otherwise. He's not avoiding the topic, just bad timing for him.

Then, un-silence him, then,
 

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I'm as guilty as the next guy, guiltier, actually, of participating when threads become about posters and not topics sometimes. But in this case, can we all just agree to move on? It appears the posters who believed evidence suggested consistent progress for Smith were right. For sure, they took a lot of heat for those suggestions. For sure, a lot of the guesswork was surmised and the debates weren't always friendly.

The end result appears to be at least marginally good news for the Cowboys and some vindication for that side of the debate. Whatever cache there is in that can be spent the next time the parties inevitably lock horns. But it'd be great if it didn't dominate another Jaylon thread.

That's my poster-opinion, btw and not a moderator opinion. Anybody with me?

Fuzzy was not the only one who got attacked.
The worst case IMO were the attacks against doc50 who is clearly medical.
There were at least 2 posters attacking him saying they questioned if he is really a doctor.
This was many months ago but it was really repulsive.
But I put them on ignore so I really dont even remember who.
 
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