Mike Lombardi Rips Jason Garrett's Coaching Ability

[BAT]

Doing more with a better team is not the ultimate trump. It does muddy the waters a bit though.

Wade was a good guy to have in charge in 2007 after Parcels quit. He wasn't the guy to sustain or build a team. He is a hell of a DC.

Garrett's far from teflon. He's practically the opposite. And nobody with a brain blames Romo for anything. He was a very good QB.

Yet Tony Romo WAS blamed for everything and Garrett was able to continue his Campo like career trajectory path until he lucked on Linehan. Campo inherited a much poorer team, cap wise and talent wise, yet wasn't given as much rope as Garrett the so called boy genius. And Campo was a Jerry favorite too.

 

[Idgit]

Yet Tony Romo WAS blamed for everything and Garrett was able to continue his Campo like career trajectory path until he lucked on Linehan. Campo inherited a much poorer team, cap wise and talent wise, yet wasn't given as much rope as Garrett the so called boy genius. And Campo was a Jerry favorite too.

I've yet to see people blame Romo to defend Garrett. Maybe it was in an outlier post or two, but those two have pretty much been connected in Dallas.

Campo's team was awful, and he was unable to improve it. That's the difference between those two. There's no disputing that this team has steadily improved since Garrett took over.

 

[BAT]

I've yet to see people blame Romo to defend Garrett. Maybe it was in an outlier post or two, but those two have pretty much been connected in Dallas.

Campo's team was awful, and he was unable to improve it. That's the difference between those two. There's no disputing that this team has steadily improved since Garrett took over.

Are you telling me that you've never heard the myriad sports shows saying Romo will never win in postseason, nevery mind a ring or that he is a turnover waiting to happen during games crucial moments. All wrong yet we still hear SAS repeating ad nauseum when Romo brought up. Nary a word or much blame placed on Garrett, given a pass because he's Jerry's boy or puppet.

And could not agree more, Campo should have been fired or rather he never should have been promoted to HC, he just wasn't ready or qualified, just like Garrett. Yet Campo's cupboard was much more bare than Garrett's, not even close to comparable. Garrett was given a winning hand compared to what Campo or especially Jimmy were given.

 

[CCBoy]

Are you telling me that you've never heard the myriad sports shows saying Romo will never win in postseason, nevery mind a ring or that he is a turnover waiting to happen during games crucial moments. All wrong yet we still hear SAS repeating ad nauseum when Romo brought up. Nary a word or much blame placed on Garrett, given a pass because he's Jerry's boy or puppet.

And could not agree more, Campo should have been fired or rather he never should have been promoted to HC, he just wasn't ready or qualified, just like Garrett. Yet Campo's cupboard was much more bare than Garrett's, not even close to comparable. Garrett was given a winning hand compared to what Campo or especially Jimmy were given.

If only there was a direct correlation between actual coaching ability and team level success...but alas, that isn't true. But fans will jump ship anyway...

 

[birdwells1]

Rodgers played like trash that game and had been in about a 2 year slump before the last half dozen or so games of the season.

A better reason is that Garrett had his team ready for a regular season game but when the pressure ramped up in the post season he still had the ready for a regular season game.

 

[NextGenBoys]

Being an innovator in scheme doesn't mean much. Wade is about as good as it gets when it comes to X's and O's on defense and is a coach that over time will ruin your team because he doesn't create an environment that develops talent well. Ironically, Lombardi's namesake was about as boring of an X's and O's coach as there is. The same with Parcells.

I think what a lot of people miss out here is that a bad coach takes a long time to make up for and turn things around (in most cases) in football. It's such a team oriented game that unlike baseball or basketball or hockey, one guy isn't likely to turn everything around.

The good news is the way the NFL is set up, it's more likely to turn around from bad coaching compared to college (where bad coaching can forever disintegrate a program), high school or even Youth Football.

In Garrett's case, he had to turn over a team that had almost no quality talent that was solely developed by Wade (players that didn't come to the team pre-2007).

The only players developed from 2007-2009 that were quality performers that we drafted (or picked up as UDFA) by 2011 was Felix Jones, Doug Free, Orlando Scandrick and Anthony Spencer.

That's really it....

4 freaking guys in 3 years.

Don't get me wrong, Garrett played a part in us struggling for those years as well. But making Wade the HC of this team set the organization back for at least 3 years.




YR

Phenomenal points. Spot on.

 

[kumizi]

I am not a JG fan myself. For an Ivy league grad, he seems to be one of the least innovative coaches in the NFL. I mean I get that consistency and "process" is the most important thing but that one fake punt against Philly was probably the only time during his long tenure as head coach that I was pleasantly surprised by something he did.

 

[BAT]

If only there was a direct correlation between actual coaching ability and team level success...but alas, that isn't true. But fans will jump ship anyway...

Not jumping ship at all CC, but please don't mind me if I will call out any icebergs in the way!

 

[CCBoy]

Not jumping ship at all CC, but please don't mind me if I will call out any icebergs in the way!

A chunk of ice the size of New Hampshire, just broke off from the Artic...

 

[Tabascocat]

A chunk of ice the size of New Hampshire, just broke off from the Artic...

Antarctic, get it right!

 

[CCBoy]

Antarctic, get it right!

No, if you are going for right, that would be AnarcticA...and that iceburg is for real now.

 

[Tabascocat]

No, if you are going for right, that would be AnarcticA...and that iceburg is for real now.

Not when you are referring to ice shelfs/sheets

This is much better arguing iceburgs rather than Garretts coaching abilities

 

[CCBoy]

Not when you are referring to ice shelfs/sheets

This is much better arguing iceburgs rather than Garretts coaching abilities

No, stay with the facts...the ICEBURG broke off solid ice, that cracked, in ANTARCTICA.

Now, what broke off the Cowboys because of Jason Garrett?

 

[Tabascocat]

No, stay with the facts...the ICEBURG broke off solid ice, that cracked, in ANTARCTICA.

Now, what broke off the Cowboys because of Jason Garrett?

Delaware-sized iceberg on verge of split from Antarctic shelf

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...shelf/&usg=AFQjCNEYxKJ4cZFCJHDUIZfOzDZKXcP_6Q

 

[CCBoy]

Delaware-sized iceberg on verge of split from Antarctic shelf

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=5&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjnyZrcvInVAhUBRz4KHeo7CLwQFghGMAQ&url=http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/colossal-iceberg-poised-snap-off-antarctic-ice-shelf/&usg=AFQjCNEYxKJ4cZFCJHDUIZfOzDZKXcP_6Q

Sometime in the last few days, scientists say an iceberg weighing roughly a trillion metric tons separated from the Larsen C Ice Shelf and began its long, slow drift northward through ...

http://www.latimes.com/science/sciencenow/la-sci-sn-larson-ice-sheet-20170713-htmlstory.html

Argue against what is presented...not ignoring what is presented. But you left out the entire subject application...get a real case before one attempts to argue meriit,

 

[CWR]

A better reason is that Garrett had his team ready for a regular season game but when the pressure ramped up in the post season he still had the ready for a regular season game.

Not really. I read an article (easy google to find it) about Rodgers slumping directly after deflate gate and while it may be a silly coincidence he was not playing well for a huge stretch after Brady was caught deflating balls. If memory serves Rodgers likes more psi. He fell off pretty badly for somewhere in the neighborhood of 2 seasons.

But hell with all that, I watched the damn game and Rodgers was MISSING OPEN RECEIVERS. He looked like crap period. Im not trying to take away from Garretts game plan but he most definitely had an off game.

Not sure what changed but the last half of the season last year he was as hot as he had been in a long time.

There are several articles. Here is one link.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...gh5MBk&usg=AFQjCNEMz7JhCtHpMT3lEORzJEu7EEb45A

 

[Doomsday101]

Not really. I read an article (easy google to find it) about Rodgers slumping directly after deflate gate and while it may be a silly coincidence he was not playing well for a huge stretch after Brady was caught deflating balls. If memory serves Rodgers likes more psi. He fell off pretty badly for somewhere in the neighborhood of 2 seasons.

But hell with all that, I watched the damn game and Rodgers was MISSING OPEN RECEIVERS. He looked like crap period. Im not trying to take away from Garretts game plan but he most definitely had an off game.

Not sure what changed but the last half of the season last year he was as hot as he had been in a long time.

True, Dallas also did not have the players to handle top offensive teams. We have to rely so much on offense to play keep away and put up points. The fact that Dallas feel behind by 3 scores yet was able to get the game tied up late in the 4th was impressive. 2 key plays a batted ball that was intended for a wide open Dez Bryant on the 2nd and 10 Cowboys last possession and of course a 30 yard gainer on a 3rd and 20 the Cowboys defense gave up to allow the last sec FG to win the game ended up being the differance.

 

[Idgit]

Are you telling me that you've never heard the myriad sports shows saying Romo will never win in postseason, nevery mind a ring or that he is a turnover waiting to happen during games crucial moments. All wrong yet we still hear SAS repeating ad nauseum when Romo brought up. Nary a word or much blame placed on Garrett, given a pass because he's Jerry's boy or puppet.

And could not agree more, Campo should have been fired or rather he never should have been promoted to HC, he just wasn't ready or qualified, just like Garrett. Yet Campo's cupboard was much more bare than Garrett's, not even close to comparable. Garrett was given a winning hand compared to what Campo or especially Jimmy were given.

Oh, I've definitely heard idiots who didn't recognize the level Tony Romo played at complaining about Tony. What I said was that they didn't give Garrett a pass in favor of blaming Tony. The same guys who jumped all over Tony jumped over Garrett, because they somehow failed to realize year after year that the problems weren't really with the offense at all.

 

[cml750]

Are you telling me that you've never heard the myriad sports shows saying Romo will never win in postseason, nevery mind a ring or that he is a turnover waiting to happen during games crucial moments. All wrong yet we still hear SAS repeating ad nauseum when Romo brought up. Nary a word or much blame placed on Garrett, given a pass because he's Jerry's boy or puppet.

And could not agree more, Campo should have been fired or rather he never should have been promoted to HC, he just wasn't ready or qualified, just like Garrett. Yet Campo's cupboard was much more bare than Garrett's, not even close to comparable. Garrett was given a winning hand compared to what Campo or especially Jimmy were given.

Quoted for truth!

 

[xwalker]

I agree......and when Garrett took this franchise over it was abysmal.....I know some may overrate the talent that was here but that same talent quit on Phillips.



Well maybe he didn't have a top 5 qb afterall?



When I say "fair shot" i'm not referring to how many chances he got in Dallas. Jerry is loyal. Loyal to a fault at times. Some would argue that applies here with Garrett.

When I say "fair shot" I mean in regards to the job he's done here. When they win its because of the great job Maranelli did or the great job Linehan did with the offense. When they lose its the hand clapping Garret's fault. That's what I mean by fair shot. This team will never truly be his. It will be whatever Jerry allows it to be.

No other coach has to put up with the circus Garrett has to from the top to the bottom.



Who said Jimmy failed?

Yes, Wade had enough talent but by the time Garrett took over the mental makeup of the team had been destroyed. They had to replace many players, some that were very talented, because the team under Wade had lost them from a mental makeup perspective (Ratliff, Bradie James, etc.. had all become to entitled...they ate the cheese.).