Mike Lombardi Rips Jason Garrett's Coaching Ability

[RoboQB]

Its funny.....if you go to every NFL teams message board.....they all say the same thing about their head coach....except the Patriots. Everyone thinks their coach is terrible.....I guess the bar is Bellicheat.

John Harbaugh is well liked by Ravens fans. It seems as though Mike Tomlin is loved in Pittsburgh for
some unknown reason. There are others... Sean Payton, for example. But, yes, I get your point.
Nobody approaches Belicheck. He's untouchable and will coach for as long as he likes.

 

[Idgit]

John Harbaugh is well liked by Ravens fans. It seems as though Mike Tomlin is loved in Pittsburgh for
some unknown reason. There are others... Sean Payton, for example. But, yes, I get your point.
Nobody approaches Belicheck. He's untouchable and will coach for as long as he likes.

Harbaugh's seat is actually heating up. And there were issues in NOLA with Payton that were rumored to go beyond the pain killer pill questions.

Tomlin's in good shape, but that's more about how the Rooneys handle their business than anything else. HCs everywhere catch heat. Even the good ones.

 

[RoboQB]

Harbaugh's seat is actually heating up. And there were issues in NOLA with Payton that were rumored to go beyond the pain killer pill questions.

Tomlin's in good shape, but that's more about how the Rooneys handle their business than anything else. HCs everywhere catch heat. Even the good ones.

Not sure where you're getting that news on Harbaugh. I live an hour from Baltimore albeit in the hated Commanders territory of
Southern Maryland (ugh). Harbaugh is beloved by the people there. I doubt Ozzie Newsome would fire him. So, if they lose
the coach, they'd likely lose the GM too.

When looking at coaches tenure, it's easy for a TV hack to claim certain coaches "could be in trouble" because
the turnover is typically the length of one contract these days.

 

[big dog cowboy]

 

[BAT]

Actually I said:

"Garrett will never get a fair shot in this league being he has to do what no other coach in this league has to do which is coach under Jerry Jones."

I'm not referring to success. I'm saying Garrett has to come to work and do his job under Jerry Jones. Parcells and Jimmy Johnson left the Cowboys because of what a difficult task that was.

I don't care what Wade's record was.....in his last season here it was some of the worst football i've ever witnessed from a team....they made David Garrard, Vince Young, among others look like Hall of Fame quaterbacks. IT was embarrassing. The team had quit on Wade. So if you define that as success then fair enough. But i'd prefer my coach get the best out of his guy as opposed to have them quit on him.


In regards to taking Wade over Garrett.......the only thing i'd take Wade over is Garrett is when it comes to coaching defense. That's it. Wade is not a good head coach in this league. If you want to argue that Garrett isn't either....that's fine. But Garrett had a lot of big "name" guys but not actually good or great football players. Same could probably be said for Wade too.

I notice you left out the point I was debating with you, how convenient. Both Parcells and Jimmy may have chafed under Jerry but their success is undeniable, fair shot be damned.

Garrett will never get a fair shot in this league being he has to do what no other coach in this league has to do which is coach under Jerry Jones. The great Bill Parcells couldn't do it and neither could Jimmy.

And whether you would choose Garrett over Wade is opinion, what I was pointing out was not opinion, but fact. Wade won more than he lost and with a much shorter leash and over a much shorter period. Wade is a better coach than Garrett, period. As a coach whatever the level, Wade has not only been more innovative but he's accomplished more especially in postseason.

Wade may go down as one of the greatest coordinators in history, as an assistant coach Garrett was mediocre, just like he's been as HC, until the arrival of Linehan. Linehan is the one with the attack mindset, Garrett is so conservative it hurts.

 

[BAT]

Its funny.....if you go to every NFL teams message board.....they all say the same thing about their head coach....except the Patriots. Everyone thinks their coach is terrible.....I guess the bar is Bellicheat.

No one but Jerry said anything bad about Jimmy. How could anyone badmouth a coach who delivered back to back SBs and gift wrapped a 3rd. Team could have had even more if Jerry had hired even an average NFL coach to replace Jimmy. Switzer did more to derail that team than any injury. That they won one in spite of him confirms how great that team was that they could win it all without a real HC.

 

[Idgit]

Not sure where you're getting that news on Harbaugh. I live an hour from Baltimore albeit in the hated Commanders territory of
Southern Maryland (ugh). Harbaugh is beloved by the people there. I doubt Ozzie Newsome would fire him. So, if they lose
the coach, they'd likely lose the GM too.

When looking at coaches tenure, it's easy for a TV hack to claim certain coaches "could be in trouble" because
the turnover is typically the length of one contract these days.

Just google "fire John Harbaugh." It's an open topic of discussion in mainstream publications like the Baltimore Sun.

 

[Idgit]

I notice you left out the point I was debating with you, how convenient. Both Parcells and Jimmy may have chafed under Jerry but their success is undeniable, fair shot be damned.

And whether you would choose Garrett over Wade is opinion, what I was pointing out was not opinion, but fact. Wade won more than he lost and with a much shorter leash and over a much shorter period. Wade is a better coach than Garrett, period. As a coach whatever the level, Wade has not only been more innovative but he's accomplished more especially in postseason.

Wade may go down as one of the greatest coordinators in history, as an assistant coach Garrett was mediocre, just like he's been as HC, until the arrival of Linehan. Linehan is the one with the attack mindset, Garrett is so conservative it hurts.

Garrett has a higher win percentage than Parcels did here. Both regular season and in the playoffs. By any reasonable argument he's been more successful here.

Wade won at a higher rate but over a shorter period of time having taken over a 9-7 roster that got worse rather than better during his tenure. Garrett has performed comparably in terms of wins having taken over a 1-7 roster, and now has a team that could easily drive that win percentage up over the next several years. Had Wade been retained, he was going to lose more games than he won with that 2010-2012 roster. There's no doubt which of those guys is the better head coach.

 

[RoboQB]

Just google "fire John Harbaugh." It's an open topic of discussion in mainstream publications like the Baltimore Sun.

Hey, I don't put much stock in newspapers these days... lol

"Mainstream" is a dirty word in news reporting.

I'll say this much. If Garrett ever does get fired and Harbaugh is available. I'd jump all over hiring a guy who's 10-5 in the playoffs.

 

[willia451]

Its true. Losing at home against GB after going 13-3 and having won a bye was devastating.

JG needs to prove he can turn regular season success into post-season success to be considered among the top NFL coaches.

 

[RoboQB]

Just google "fire John Harbaugh." It's an open topic of discussion in mainstream publications like the Baltimore Sun.

There may be a "fire Idgit" Facebook page or some other open discussion too... but I don't listen to those people either... lol

 

[AmericanCowboy]

It's been coaching blunder and time management issues one after another with this guy.

The players like him because he doesn't hold them accountable yet puts off the facade that he does.

Jerry likes him because he just claps on the sidelines.

Marinelli and Linehan like him because he stays out of the way.

He literally has to only use his timeouts properly and throw challenge flags and yet he manages to mess that up.

 

[MRV52]

Obviously he doesn't know about the process. It takes 10 years to become a great coach.

Or 10 years to learn how to tell time!!!

 

[Boyzmamacita]

I have to agree with this, too. Dallas came out flat against the Lions in the 2014 wild card round, too, falling behind 14-0 before rallying to a 24-20 win. They almost pulled off the comeback against Green Bay, too, so Garrett has to take some blame.

If only the officials hadn't taken that interception from Heath.

We came out flat and Dak had the nervous jitters early on, but the reason we lost overall was our lack of pass rush. If that hasn't improved, you can blame Garrett all you want. No coach will go far with virtually no pass rush at all. Hopefully our mix of misfits will shake up the world.

 

[Bullflop]

I think a lot of the blame for the defense needs to go on Garrett for coaching the last few weeks of the season like a total coward. By the time the Packers game rolled around it had been 3 weeks since the defense played at full speed and they came out rusty and unprepared. Once they got warmed up they actually played pretty well.

It's amazing to me how so many here are able to decipher exactly what is going on behind the scenes in the Cowboys' organization. I think an awful lot of kneejerk assumptions are being made from the comfort of our homes and before our computers, while injuries and so many other problems are being dealt with behind the scenes. There's no way to decipher exactly what issues are being dealt with and what the correct solutions are within our remote environments.

 

[haleyrules]

It seems to me that if the Cowboys really want to take the next step and move ahead in the playoffs then Garrett needs to be replaced. I mean he might pull off a Switzer but it seems unlikely. Fresh coaching blood just might be what the Club really needs.

 

[haleyrules]

Garrett has a higher win percentage than Parcels did here. Both regular season and in the playoffs. By any reasonable argument he's been more successful here.

Wade won at a higher rate but over a shorter period of time having taken over a 9-7 roster that got worse rather than better during his tenure. Garrett has performed comparably in terms of wins having taken over a 1-7 roster, and now has a team that could easily drive that win percentage up over the next several years. Had Wade been retained, he was going to lose more games than he won with that 2010-2012 roster. There's no doubt which of those guys is the better head coach.

. Why do you hate Garrett so much?

 

[Bullflop]

It seems to me that if the Cowboys really want to take the next step and move ahead in the playoffs then Garrett needs to be replaced. I mean he might pull off a Switzer but it seems unlikely. Fresh coaching blood just might be what the Club really needs.

Yes it might but on the other hand, finding another coach that could be as compatible with Jerry wouldn't be an easy task.

 

[haleyrules]

Yes it might but on the other hand, finding another coach that could be as compatible with Jerry wouldn't be an easy task.

You ain't kiddin. Thats probably the biggest issue in Dallas.

 

[Bullflop]

You ain't kiddin. Thats probably the biggest issue in Dallas.

I sometimes dream what it might be like when Stephen takes over minus Jerry's input -- and then I wake up, doggone it.