RELEASED Lucky Whitehead Cut **merged**

[big dog cowboy]

You guys are trying hard to spin this but the fact remains the Cowboys cut him largely because they believed he had committed a crime. He didn't commit a crime.

If they had waiting a month to cut him, the same thing could be said then. When the reality of the situation is Switzer is taking his spot. Cutting him now or then, whats the difference? He wasn't making the 53 man roster. It really doesn't matter when you cut him. Next week he will be an after thought any wether or not he committed a crime isn't going to make one bit of difference.

 

[Trouty]

I guess I haven't been paying attention. What do millenials have to do with the Cowboys cutting a player for a crime that it turns out he didn't commit?

Absolutely nothing. You've missed nothing, Syd.

 

[Trouty]

No, my point is about groups. Dallas Cowboys fans are a group just like Millenials.

I actually thought the Millenial issue was just older generations having good-ole-days syndrom; however, it turns out that it's a significant issue for businesses in that a majority of Millenials really have problems integrating into the workforce the way previous generations were able to do when they got to that age.

As you might have guessed, I've had recent conversations with some CEOs and other high level executives. They only care about the bottom line, not prejudice or unnecessary sterotypes. The Millenial issue is a big topic of conversation for them.

It turns out that the method of raising kids and instilling discipline that was used for hundreds of years really did work. Yuppie parents actually were not smarter than all the previous generations when they decided that absolute minimum discipline was the new way to raise kids.

There is a reason that institutions that have a history with young men (Military, Sports teams, etc..) actually used methods that work.

That's fine, X.

I will always defend the generation I have bled with, literally, and certainly born to.

 

[big dog cowboy]

But when the organization makes a decision to cut a guy because they think he committed a crime and hours later he did no such thing, that's a bad PR look. It just is.

I get that. But who cares? Next week no one will.

 

[Sydla]

If they had waiting a month to cut him, the same thing could be said then. When the reality of the situation is Switzer is taking his spot. Cutting him now or then, whats the difference? He wasn't making the 53 man roster. It really doesn't matter when you cut him. Next week he will be an after thought any wether or not he committed a crime isn't going to make one bit of difference.

If you cut him a month from now, you don't have the negative PR embarrassment that the Cowboys have now. Every major sports and football outlet has stories now about how the Cowboys cut a player who actually didn't commit a crime, oh and by the way, the guys who committed actual crimes have largely gone unpunished.

It's mind numbing that you guys can't see this. The Cowboys could have easily avoided this negative PR but they were so quick to try to head off the Lucky narrative as soon as possible given past player problems that they shot themselves in the foot.

 

[Sydla]

I get that. But who cares? Next week no one will.

Obviously most of the national press cares, because it's carried by almost every outlet.

This was entirely self inflicted by the Cowboys.

 

[xwalker]

You are making arguments that I am not arguing. I don't have an issue with the concept of Lucky being cut. Frankly, as I said earlier, I assumed he was a goner once Switzer started lighting it up in OTAs, etc. I don't have an issue with certain players getting different treatment given their status on a team. Honestly, I don't have an issue with cutting a guy to try to send a message to other players.

My only issues here are that the process of cutting Lucky was simply bad PR and then the justifications after the fact from the team and fans (like saying Lucky had to be cut becaue he was a distraction as if Wilson being accused of assault and brandishing a gun isn't a "distraction").

IMO, the Cowboys should have waited for the facts, then cut him based on merit down the road. Because now, any positive PR they were trying to get and any message they were trying to send to the team is gone as everyone now knows they cut a guy for a crime he didn't actually commit.

I get part of what you're saying but the message should be that they cut players when they feel like it. If you don't want to get cut then make yourself too valuable to cut.

Who knows, maybe there was more to the dog/ransom story from a few days ago that they were already irritated about.

If he had been a model citizen, then they would have waited for the true story to come out.

Have 1 alcoholic drink and then get into an auto accident. They're going to hold the alcohol against you even though you didn't break the law. The DA can make the jury think you're a terrible person for drinking and driving. Don't drink/drive and you can't get put into that position. For Lucky don't get suspended last season for your actions. Don't put your personal issues like the dog ransom on twitter.

 

[Philmonroe]

If they had waiting a month to cut him, the same thing could be said then. When the reality of the situation is Switzer is taking his spot. Cutting him now or then, whats the difference? He wasn't making the 53 man roster. It really doesn't matter when you cut him. Next week he will be an after thought any wether or not he committed a crime isn't going to make one bit of difference.

Bold is technically right but this thread isn't this long if it happened that way more than likely.

 

[Montanalo]

No, my point is about groups. Dallas Cowboys fans are a group just like Millenials.

I actually thought the Millenial issue was just older generations having good-ole-days syndrom; however, it turns out that it's a significant issue for businesses in that a majority of Millenials really have problems integrating into the workforce the way previous generations were able to do when they got to that age.

As you might have guessed, I've had recent conversations with some CEOs and other high level executives. They only care about the bottom line, not prejudice or unnecessary sterotypes. The Millenial issue is a big topic of conversation for them.

It turns out that the method of raising kids and instilling discipline that was used for hundreds of years really did work. Yuppie parents actually were not smarter than all the previous generations when they decided that absolute minimum discipline was the new way to raise kids.

There is a reason that institutions that have a history with young men (Military, Sports teams, etc..) actually used methods that work.

One of the truly innovative measures my former company took to integrate Millennials into the workforce was to pair-up senior management with a Millennial for reciprocal coaching. I provided insights on my generation and how best to navigate the corporate maze. In turn, I got insights to the Millennial's view of the world. While there are countless articles and books describing the Millennial, the best definition cane from one of my Millennial "coaches". He basically stated that my generation was more interested in how things work, while his generations was more interested in why we do something.

 

[Sydla]

I get part of what you're saying but the message should be that they cut players when they feel like it. If you don't want to get cut then make yourself too valuable to cut.

Who knows, maybe there was more to the dog/ransom story from a few days ago that they were already irritated about.

If he had been a model citizen, then they would have waited for the true story to come out.

Have 1 alcoholic drink and then get into an auto accident. They're going to hold the alcohol against you even though you didn't break the law. The DA can make the jury think you're a terrible person for drinking and driving. Don't drink/drive and you can't get put into that position. For Lucky don't get suspended last season for your actions. Don't put your personal issues like the dog ransom on twitter.

I get that.

But that's not what the Cowboys did yesterday. After little to no punishments for players that did actually get in trouble, they cut a guy immediately after learning of an arrest warrant and then a couple of hours after that found out that the kid wasn't even in the state the crime was committed.

It's a bad look for the organization.

 

[Sydla]

Bold is technically right but this thread isn't this long if it happened that way more than likely.

If they had waited a month to cut him, it's likely because he lost his job anyway.

The point here is the timing for the Cowboys and how that afternoon played out, wasn't the finest moment for the front office.

 

[Philmonroe]

If they had waited a month to cut him, it's likely because he lost his job anyway.

The point here is the timing for the Cowboys and how that afternoon played out, wasn't the finest moment for the front office.

I agree but some think we are crazy because Lucky wasn't good. I agree on that but as I've said many times in this thread the logic many are using doesn't reflect how people treat these issue when they are the person involved ime. I think that's the disconnect because I find it hard to believe if this was most people in this thread in the same situation they'd just say I'm not as good so I understand.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Obviously most of the national press cares, because it's carried by almost every outlet.

No one cares. It's the Cowboys so they pick it up. That's the bottom line. In a couple of days he will be old news and everyone will move on. Bad PR? No one cares. It's all about the Cowboys.

 

[links18]

If they had waited a month to cut him, it's likely because he lost his job anyway.

The point here is the timing for the Cowboys and how that afternoon played out, wasn't the finest moment for the front office.

Especially, when others who have supposedly admitted to far worse crimes remain on the team. Damien Wilson may be more important than Lucky, but he's no All Pro either. Maybe there is more to the Lucky situation. That entire episode with his dog is highly suspect, but the horrid timing and sequence of events here just makes this organization look like a bungling ship of fools that couldn't get it right if tried.

 

[CACowboy714]

He didn't perform up to par, and had consistent off field issues prior to Monday. Switzer was drafted in April, he should've been cut soon after.

Instead of dealing with all the offseason problems, Cowboys FO sat on their hands until the drama got so overbearing they had make a move. Now theyre having to open camp answering questions about a marginal player that's not even on their roster anymore.

Could have been avoided but they didn't practice what they preach.

 

[TRUTH87]

Jets claimed him.

 

[Stash]

If you cut him a month from now, you don't have the negative PR embarrassment that the Cowboys have now. Every major sports and football outlet has stories now about how the Cowboys cut a player who actually didn't commit a crime, oh and by the way, the guys who committed actual crimes have largely gone unpunished.

It's mind numbing that you guys can't see this. The Cowboys could have easily avoided this negative PR but they were so quick to try to head off the Lucky narrative as soon as possible given past player problems that they shot themselves in the foot.

They can see it, they're just trying not to.

 

[silver]

Jets claimed him.

good for him

 

[Stash]

Jets claimed him.

Good for him, I just hope someone doesn't try to use it as some "no harm, no foul" excuse for the Cowboys.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Jets claimed him.

He runs a 4.3. It shouldn't have surprised.