What Can Brown Do You For You?

[haleyrules]

At least a Terrell Owens smack from a safety...
That play, being done and Lee getting it dirty, although, I admit legal- I wanted retaliation. I can see Jaylon flying at old dude, should he have been on the field.
Not my family!!!

Imagine what the old Cowboys like, Lee Roy Jordon or Cliff Harris..Randy White would have done to that prrick. I have no problem with the hit but his teammates were disgusting.

 

[texbumthelife]

Do punters and kickers wear helmets and jerseys? Yes? Then they can been laid out just like anyone else. This was totally clean. He turned toward Brown and that's when he decked him. He didn't even lead with his helmet, he just shoved the dude down. Lame.

 

[Corso]

Imagine what the old Cowboys like, Lee Roy Jordon or Cliff Harris..Randy White would have done to that prrick. I have no problem with the hit but his teammates were disgusting.

Preach, Preachah!

 

[Silver Surfer]

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@Silver Surfer, as an aside, please don't mistake dissenting opinions with those folks who can't hold a debate without nastiness, my brother.....

I try not to. Context is everything and its a judgement call. But when I get back to back condescending/demeaning replies from someone to one of my posts, especially when they're the first two times they interact with me, I'm done with them. I'm not wasting my time.

Now, carry on my brothers. Just felt the need to post this before my tongue catches on fire form my pipe tobacco and I lose the battle to type.

I've always been under the impression that smoking a pipe makes you look smarter; now I'm starting to feel disillusioned.....Here's an extra tongue for you.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

There's no rule on distances on where a block has to occur. Whether its 2 yards or 50 yards away from the play. It doesn't matter. They can block anyone so long the whistle hasn't blown.

Brown doesn't know where the ball carrier is at. He doesn't have a TV next to him to judge where the ball carrier is going to run the ball. He just has to keep blocking someone until the \whistle blows the play dead.

I never said there was a specific rule towards specific distances. But there is a rule about blasting QB's, punters and kickers when they are not close to the ballcarrier and trying to make a tackle. Lee was close to the play and got blasted and that's why it was a legal block.

Brown on the other hand knew that the punter was nowhere near the ball carrier. The punter is protected in this league as long as he's not near the ball carrier and that's why the flag was rightfully thrown.





YR

 

[ConstantReboot]

I never said there was a specific rule towards specific distances. But there is a rule about blasting QB's, punters and kickers when they are not close to the ballcarrier and trying to make a tackle. Lee was close to the play and got blasted and that's why it was a legal block.

Brown on the other hand knew that the punter was nowhere near the ball carrier. The punter is protected in this league as long as he's not near the ball carrier and that's why the flag was rightfully thrown.





YR

Yeah I guess its one of those obscure rules that I never heard of in football. I was never told to not hit punters, kickers and QBs all the way thru high school.

 

[RoboQB]

what does he have to change to make it legal?

Well, he has to be closer than 30 yards away from the play. This is the Warren Sapp rule.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

Yeah I guess its one of those obscure rules that I never heard of in football. I was never told to not hit punters, kickers and QBs all the way thru high school.

They do it to protect the QB's on interception returns. Imagine Dak throwing an interception and being nowhere near the interception and some D-Linemen blasting Dak. Good way to target and injure QB's. Punters and kickers have a gripe, too so they added them to the rule.





YR

 

[ConstantReboot]

They do it to protect the QB's on interception returns. Imagine Dak throwing an interception and being nowhere near the interception and some D-Linemen blasting Dak. Good way to target and injure QB's. Punters and kickers have a gripe, too so they added them to the rule.





YR

Well it does makes sense in the NFL. I high school or college the best athletes are usually the QB. He's probably also their biggest and fastest player.

 

[tyke1doe]

He barely even hit him.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

Well it does makes sense in the NFL. I high school or college the best athletes are usually the QB. He's probably also their biggest and fastest player.

I believe the rule started from the Bears vs. Eagles playoff game in 2001 (IIRC). Jim Miller threw an interception and was nowhere near the return (it wasn't a big return). Hugh Douglas then blasted Miller and it knocked Miller out of the game and the Bears never stood a chance.

And I watched the play again...Brown is looking at where the ball carrier is at and Lenoir is about to get tackled and he then blasts the punter.

It's a cheapshot and I can not understand wanting to do that to the punter. Maybe a cornerback that grabbed your facemask or was talking trash...but a punter is just stupid.




YR

 

[chagus]

Punter landed and got the wind knocked out of him. That's all. Looks like the initial hit was in the front. Meh.

 

[Doomsday101]

what does he have to change to make it legal?

You don't hit him since he was away from the play. Not really a new rule and 15 yards is a costly penalty. So don't do it.

 

[DenCWBY]

So if there is a blocking rule or exception of kickers, punters and QB's during a runback, the NFL should have an option for these players to immediately take a knee in transition (or run off the field) during the play so they do not get hit. IMO any player running towards the returner is fair game as long as the block is legal.

 

[Doomsday101]

So if there is a blocking rule or exception of kickers, punters and QB's during a runback, the NFL should have an option for these players to immediately take a knee in transition (or run off the field) during the play so they do not get hit. IMO any player running towards the returner is fair game as long as the block is legal.

He did it once and was flagged and now that he knows he will be flagged for doing it the next time don't do it. Pre season 15 yarder no big deal, you learn from it. People can try and justify it all they want but it is the rule so for Cowboy players be smart and do not go after the punter like that. It is all part of the theory of not beating yourself with stupid penalties

 

[Irvin88_4life]

I honestly don't know why that's a penalty. Wasn't in his back. Wasn't after the play. Seems like a 2017 safe space thing where you're simply flagged for being too rough.

I agree with you. Seemed very similar to the Tate hit on Lee. Difference being Lee isn't a kicker and plays for Dallas. Our punters have been smashed before with no call

 

[DenCWBY]

He did it once and was flagged and now that he knows he will be flagged for doing it the next time don't do it. Pre season 15 yarder no big deal, you learn from it. People can try and justify it all they want but it is the rule so for Cowboy players be smart and do not go after the punter like that. It is all part of the theory of not beating yourself with stupid penalties

And by incorporating a "kneel down" policy surrendering yourself as a potential tackler, you can eliminate the "stupid" penalty all together. That way there is no question of whether the player is an active tackler who should be blocked.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

It shouldn't have been a penalty because it was in a field of play and the whistle hasn't blown. If the kicker doesn't want to get hit, get out of the field of play. Just run away.

Noah Brown can't see everything we can on TV. His assignment is to block anyone in front him. Unfortunately, a meandering and slumbering kicker was in his field of play. So he knock the crap out of him. Short and simple - thats football. If it hurts his butt don't play the game then.

People are missing the fact that the kicker was running towards the returner. Noah was doing his job and i like the fact he played. Giving effort from a rookie is never a bad thing

 

[Doomsday101]

And by incorporating a "kneel down" policy surrendering yourself as a potential tackler, you can eliminate the "stupid" penalty all together. That way there is no question of whether the player is an active tackler who should be blocked.

Not saying you are wrong but there is no kneel down policy in place so we deal with what the rules are now. Right now you do it and it will cost the team 15 yards. So simple thing is do not do it, there was no reason to do it. If Brown did not know this rule well he does now.

 

[Doomsday101]

People are missing the fact that the kicker was running towards the returner. Noah was doing his job and i like the fact he played. Giving effort from a rookie is never a bad thing

He was not running towards the returner and making no real effort to get into the play. I'm not going to come down on Brown over a pre season penalty, he did it and was flagged for it as the rules state but I hope in a real game situation he is smart enough to know better. Part of what makes teams like the pats successful is they do not do things to beat themselves, Dallas players have to be smart enough not to do things that can get them beat.