Aikman: "why do you throw that pass when Zeke just ran the ball for 8yds?"

[haleyrules]

Typical Garrett trying to outthink or outsmart a better opponent.

 

[haleyrules]

Garrett can veto any call he wants

He must ask Jerry and Stephen first.

 

[Doomsay]

So don't try and score unless there is under 90 seconds? 60 seconds? 10 seconds? What if there is a penalty? Or a sack? or we're stuffed for no gain? Or we move backwards? I understand if all we needed was a fg. But when you have to score a TD you have to go out and try and score. Dez in single coverage in the Red Zone is a play and situation you take. It's simply not practical to say we aren't going to go for the potential game winning TD right here because there is 90 seconds on the clock and it's too much time.

People are so results oriented and emotional.

Wow, talk about situational stupidity.

 

[Sydla]

If my quarterback can't recognize something this simple, then he's not going to be my quarterback anymore.

Most QBs wouldn't recognize that. They'd do what has been coached into them............. if they have a RPO and the defense shows a certain kind of coverage, the QB is going to throw it. Dak probably did exactly what he was supposed to do there given the coverage on Bryant.

But the ultimate responsibility lands on the coaching staff who gave the QB that option. Blaming Dak just reeks like the typical, lame excuse making for Garrett that has gone on for years and likely will go on for as long as he's here.

 

[Sydla]

I've moved on. However, everybody is trying to make Dak out to be the next elite QB. So far, he's just the next Byron Leftwich. A while mountain of things to prove still.

Oh, I thought your obtuseness here was because you were a big Garrett lover. I didn't realize you were an irrational Dak hater.

 

[DandyDon52]

I just don't get what they aren't getting. Run the dive again to Zeke with 2nd & 1 and you end up with four fresh downs around the 10 yard line. GB has to use their last timeout. Then you run clock. You do NOT under any circumstance give Aaron Freaking Rodgers the ball back with a timeout and enough tire to work his magic. You just don't. Period. You play the probabilities. It is more probable that you score using the strategy I just outlined and leave just enough time on the clock to piss Aaron off....

U

Situational awareness 101

They basic they basically made the same mistake they made in the playoff game last year.
give Rodgers too much time and not running out the clock!
when will when will they learn LOL

 

[Toruk_Makto]

Wow, talk about situational stupidity.

Irony.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

You are overly complicating this to try and make your point, and you don't coach or play scared of every possible negative outcome. You are also using your example in a vacuum, but the context of the situation easily shows that we scored too fast and gave Rodgers too much time against our abysmal defense.

In the context that we're talking about, you don't pass the ball. You have a 1st and 10 from the 19 with 2 minutes left. You then ran the ball for 8/9 yards on 1st down, setting up a 2nd and 1 or 2. I'm pretty sure Dak snapped the ball with 10 sec left, that is error number 1. Error number 2 is calling a RPO. There isn't an exact time you need to score at, but you minimize the other teams chances of winning the game.

We weren't up against the clock, GB was. If it was me, I'm not calling a pass play until there are under 30 seconds left.

They apparently didn't learn anything from the playoff loss last year. Situational football failure.

We actually took 9 minutes to score. If that's too fast then we suck.

But the goal is to score. You cannot ignore advantageous match-ups because you want to score with 40 seconds left rather than a minute and 20.

 

[MWH1967]

that's a situation where you almost let someone score just to get the ball back. Dallas just made it easy.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

For God's sake, dude...open your eyes. A TD there does us no good if Rodgers has over a minute to work with plus a timeout.

I mean that's not true.

Meanwhile the biggest knock on Rodgers career is that he's actually been incredibly poor in the 4th quarter when trailing games.

Also to win the game you have to score the TD. YOu can't just say hey guys ya know....100 seconds is too long. Let's avoid an advantageous matchup to score so that maybe we score later. It's silly.

 

[slick325]

Wrong. The offense could have played it much smarter down the stretch and placed the defense in a much more advantageous position. What is the alleged strength of this team? The offense..

OK Bleu...the offense lost the game.

 

[Sydla]

If Dak changed the play from run to pass then it's on him. Plain and simple.

Dak was given a play apparently that gave him the option to run or pass based on the formation.

The coaches should never have called a run/pass option play. That's on them.

 

[Sydla]

We actually took 9 minutes to score. If that's too fast then we suck.

But the goal is to score. You cannot ignore advantageous match-ups because you want to score with 40 seconds left rather than a minute and 20.

Yep.

We worked the clock for 9 minutes being methodical largely because we knew we didn't want to give the ball back to Rodgers with enough time to mount a drive. And it was working to perfection until the coaches got moronic and called a RPO that opted into a low percentage pass play that resulted in the team giving the Packers what they desperately wanted - a free time out.

And yes, you can ignore advantageous matchups if you want, especially if the circumstances dictate that the last thing you want to do it stop the clock for the Packers and you are calling a play that has a high probability of doing just that.

 

[TheCoolFan]

Take a knee, do whatever it takes to run down the clock. Then you call your timeout with 20 seconds left, look at Rodgers on the GB bench and tell him that there's nothing he can do to affect the outcome of this game today...not this time. If we don't get in on 2nd, 3rd, and 4th down then so be it but at least we go down swinging with our offense (our team's supposed strength) instead of putting the game in the hands of the defense.

Let's say the Packers told their defense to ease up and let us score there. Do you still take it? No! It's a chess match, you gotta be smart

 

[Toruk_Makto]

Yep.

We worked the clock for 9 minutes being methodical largely because we knew we didn't want to give the ball back to Rodgers with enough time to mount a drive. And it was working to perfection until the coaches got moronic and called a RPO that opted into a low percentage pass play that resulted in the team giving the Packers what they desperately wanted - a free time out.

And yes, you can ignore advantageous matchups if you want, especially if the circumstances dictate that the last thing you want to do it stop the clock for the Packers and you are calling a play that has a high probability of doing just that.

So ignore advantageous options in the red zone because scoring a td there was our birthright.

Makes sense.

 

[coogrfan]

So ignore advantageous options in the red zone because scoring a td there was our birthright.

Makes sense.

As far as I can tell, the only person saying we were sure to score if we had opted to run on 2nd and 2 is you. What we're saying is that our odds of winning were better with our offense on the field than they were with our "defense" out there. I really can't make it any clearer than that.

 

[odog422]

If my quarterback can't recognize something this simple, then he's not going to be my quarterback anymore.

If this had never occurred while Romo was quarterback, you might have a point.

I swear listening to your comparisons I'd think under Romo we won Super Bowls, err, NFC championships, uhh..., multiple playoff games - oh...2.

 

[haleyrules]

If this had never occurred while Romo was quarterback, you might have a point.

I swear listening to your comparisons I'd think under Romo we won Super Bowls, err, NFC championships, uhh..., multiple playoff games - oh...2.

 

[coogrfan]

I mean that's not true.

Meanwhile the biggest knock on Rodgers career is that he's actually been incredibly poor in the 4th quarter when trailing games.

Also to win the game you have to score the TD. YOu can't just say hey guys ya know....100 seconds is too long. Let's avoid an advantageous matchup to score so that maybe we score later. It's silly.

Including yesterday, Rodgers has three 4th Qtr comebacks and/or game winning drives against Dallas since 2014. I think it's pretty clear that he has our number.

 

[Sydla]

So ignore advantageous options in the red zone because scoring a td there was our birthright.

Makes sense.

When the advantageous matchup is a fade pattern that is historically a low percentage play, yeah, don't opt into the play.

Dumb call by the staff. It's just that simple.