Our slumping QB

[DFWJC]

This just in; the kid can play

 

[Oh_Canada]

You made the claim it's hyperbole. Can you back it up?

If you want to say you're not sure about my claim, that's fine. But if you're going to make a counter claim, please don't go on about evidence if you're not providing any yourself.
I don't have access (nor the time) to go back and find all the plays. I admit I'm going off of memory. I've certainly made posts about it after/during individual games though.

Just stop man.
We're talking about a second year qb who had a historial rookie season and possibly better this year.

 

[Kevinicus]

Just stop man.
We're talking about a second year qb who had a historial rookie season and possibly better this year.

Yeah? So? I can't state facts about this 2nd year QB?

I'm not trying to be overtly critical, but people made a foolish claim, pretending like he hasn't thrown a lot of passes right into the arms of defenders this year. I'm just correcting the record.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Yeah? So? I can't state facts about this 2nd year QB?

I'm not trying to be overtly critical, but people made a foolish claim, pretending like he hasn't thrown a lot of passes right into the arms of defenders this year. I'm just correcting the record.

Is Dak the only quarterback to have passes go right into the arms of defenders?

 

[pete026]

Except it did. Just because you want to ignore it, doesn't make it so.

Nope, you made a claim that Dak had 25 interceptions dropped this year. Now you are backpeddling. I won't ignore it. I'll continue to prove how idiotic you and mattjones2010 are about Dak's play.

 

[Oh_Canada]

Yeah? So? I can't state facts about this 2nd year QB?

I'm not trying to be overtly critical, but people made a foolish claim, pretending like he hasn't thrown a lot of passes right into the arms of defenders this year. I'm just correcting the record.

A "lot" really? Lord.

 

[pete026]

Yeah? So? I can't state facts about this 2nd year QB?

I'm not trying to be overtly critical, but people made a foolish claim, pretending like he hasn't thrown a lot of passes right into the arms of defenders this year. I'm just correcting the record.

25 dropped interceptions........ who made the foolish claim?

 

[Yakuza Rich]

And now you're just implying that I'm saying things that I'm not and trying to say I'm ignorant. Nice straw man.

No strawman.

I'm pointing out that passes that go thru a receiver's hands and end up being an INT is much rarer than a defensive player dropping an INT and you claimed that isn't true. I'm pointing out the fallacies of your argument and stating that if you cannot see how that is, there is no reason to continue to discuss football with you because you're just being willfully ignorant.

If the shoe fits...




YR

 

[Kevinicus]

Is Dak the only quarterback to have passes go right into the arms of defenders?

Of course not, I never suggested otherwise.

 

[Kevinicus]

No strawman.

I'm pointing out that passes that go thru a receiver's hands and end up being an INT is much rarer than a defensive player dropping an INT and you claimed that isn't true. I'm pointing out the fallacies of your argument and stating that if you cannot see how that is, there is no reason to continue to discuss football with you because you're just being willfully ignorant.

If the shoe fits...




YR

That's not what I said. I believe you misunderstood.

 

[Kevinicus]

25 dropped interceptions........ who made the foolish claim?

I'd say through 5 games, he was around 8-10 this year. Extrapolate that over 16 games and you're at 25-30ish. And I said 25 ints, not dropped ints. That includes others that haven't been dropped.

 

[Kevinicus]

A "lot" really? Lord.

That's how I would describe it yes. More than you would want from a QB. A lot more than he had last year.

 

[Clove]

Why anyone in the world cares what Mattjones or whatever his name is AKA risenstar says, is beyond my wildest dreams.

Ignore, and move to next subject.

 

[pete026]

I'd say through 5 games, he was around 8-10 this year. Extrapolate that over 16 games and you're at 25-30ish. And I said 25 ints, not dropped ints. That includes others that haven't been dropped.

25 so far this year to 2-3 per game this year. Now extrapolating it over the entire season to come to your conclusion. Heath could hit those goalposts. I think you're tired...... give it up until you get some sleep. Better yet, give this Dak attack a rest. It's a losing cause.

 

[HungryLion]

So what the hell is your point, Dak played at a lower level QB wise than most of the QBs that faced those defenses? I just updated my post to show you how every other QB that faced the Broncos D played. I'll copy and paste

As for other QBs against Denver this year

Tyrod Taylor - 76%, 8.2 average, 2 TDs, 126.0 QBR

Philip Rivers - 57.7%, 183 yards, 2 TDs, 105.1 QBR

Even Eli had one of his better games, QBR wise, but his throw attempts were so low it's not really bothering to bring up.

Derek Carr went out of the game early against them, but had a 100 rating, and 7.9 yards a pass attempt.

Let's compare it to Dak's stats

He had 50 passing attempts, averaged 4.8 yards a pass, 2 INTs, and a 68.6 rating

Try again.

And if I want to, I can EASILY pull up some game stats where all of those QB’s, played like dog crap. Because all QB’s have bad games.

None of those QB’s you listed are in their second year either.

Shall I bring up some game stats where those QB’s you listed played like crap? How about I bring up some games where great QB’s have played like crap from this season?

It’s beyond clear that you don’t know how professional football works if you the best argument you have against Dak is that he has had a few bad games against tough defenses.

LOL that’s every QB in the league.

So dumb.

 

[Kevinicus]

25 so far this year to 2-3 per game this year. Now extrapolating it over the entire season to come to your conclusion. Heath could hit those goalposts. I think you're tired...... give it up until you get some sleep. Better yet, give this Dak attack a rest. It's a losing cause.

I didn't say so far this year. The post I responded to was talking about pace for the season, and that's what my 25 was referring to. Looks like you misunderstood.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Of course not, I never suggested otherwise.

Why is dropped interceptions even mentioned though lol? When did that become a thing?

 

[SportsGuru80]

No he's terrible! Stop it...

 

[CowboyChris]

i know one thing for sure, there is a bunch of teams in this league, that wish they had Dak as their QB...and their isn't very many QB's i would trade him straight up for. consider this team extremely lucky we got him and where we got him (4th rounder)

 

[River82]

Anyone who talks about "balls going into the arms of defenders" like it's a meaningful stat either has an agenda or is ... a special poster