Dak is a good Bus Driver but Needs a Good Supporting Cast

[BrassCowboy]

Why does it have to be all or nothing based on a strawman? This idea that there is some method to evaluate any random game performance as you describe is just asinine.


You guys are trying real hard to backdoor your way into this deduction but the logic being used is ignorant. If you have some direct evidence or logic to present how he should have succeeded despite being under pressure hitting his back foot even on 3 step drops literally 3 out of 4 passes then please present it. Else it is not worth taking the above seriously.

If you want to bash Garrett for being pigheaded and not adjusting his protections to help a LT that was struggling mightily then fine but blaming a QB who gets literally 1 second to operate is a nonstarter.

Great post

 

[BrassCowboy]

Wentz????????

Risen, is that you???

 

[BrassCowboy]

There is a post just above this one that is one of the best I have seen. So the moral of this is that before you say "buffoonery" you should look in the mirror.
"If we are being truly honest with ourselves, we should all have known before now that Dak is much more of a cog in the wheel as opposed to the motor that keeps the wheel turning. Yesterday's loss was not solely on Dak's shoulders. There were definitely things he could've done better and he definitely did not get all the help he needed. His accuracy has never been pinpoint. He has a lot of intangibles and an ability to pick up yards with his feet. Green did him 0 favors and the defense did him no favors short of one turnover...

I think a lot of us want our QB to be the best player on the offense. Dak is not this. Dak doesn't play the way Romo did. Romo made receivers better by throwing into tight windows and taking chances that Dak doesn't have the accuracy or confidence to take.

Yesterday with a young Romo under center, does anyone believe he wouldn't have passed for more than 177 yards? He may very well have pressed and thrown some interceptions or he may have thrown for 300+ yards and 3 TDs. Romo was the motor that drove the offense back then because he was the best offensive player we had. The running game is what drives this team now because, frankly, the offensive line and Zeke are the best players on this offense; better than Dak is as a passer.

Again, this was not Dak's fault but nobody has a perfect team in the NFL. Few teams have great offensive lines. So much is overcoming what's around you. Dak does need support and we said the same thing about Romo all those seasons. I do think Dak needs more support than Romo did though."

Ok so you are saying that Dak is a good qb who is only in his second year and the coaching staff needs to actually know what they are doing and make adjustments as needed for Dak to have a decent game?

Ok I can live with that. I think we all are saying that

 

[Grevus]

Keep in mind besides the sacks and pressures, how many plays were negated by a holding call?

 

[Toruk_Makto]

For better or for worse Dak gets the benefit of the doubt that Romo never was afforded.

Romo had countless games and situations similar to what Dak faced Sunday and the narrative afterward would have been much different.

Some of that is fair as Dak is still a young kid but it's a striking difference.

 

[Kevinicus]

Why does it have to be all or nothing based on a strawman? This idea that there is some method to evaluate any random game performance as you describe is just asinine.

You guys are trying real hard to backdoor your way into this deduction but the logic being used is ignorant. If you have some direct evidence or logic to present how he should have succeeded despite being under pressure hitting his back foot even on 3 step drops literally 3 out of 4 passes then please present it. Else it is not worth taking the above seriously.

If you want to bash Garrett for being pigheaded and not adjusting his protections to help a LT that was struggling mightily then fine but blaming a QB who gets literally 1 second to operate is a nonstarter.

Congratulations, you completely misunderstood another post.

 

[JoeKing]

After watching that game in Atlanta I'm convinced the Cowboy's coaching staff if trying to get Dak killed. Dak also has to figure out the coach's cooperation in getting him killed and act accordingly after the second or third sack that came from his blind side. Dak has a supporting cast if he will use his huge legs to stay upright long enough to throw the ball to them.

 

[Vtwin]

Dak absolutely has to find a little bit of that gunslinger mentality. He plays way to cautiously at times.

 

[stiletto]

For better or for worse Dak gets the benefit of the doubt that Romo never was afforded.

Romo had countless games and situations similar to what Dak faced Sunday and the narrative afterward would have been much different.

Some of that is fair as Dak is still a young kid but it's a striking difference.

Romo was never under seige like what happened on Sunday, NEVER.....it was like here was no Left Tackle. Romo would've been out 6-8 weeks after that game even when he was younger...

 

[CowboyRoy]

Dak is not a QB that can carry a team as shown today. This team revolves around Zeke period. It depends on a great 5 OL but only had 4 today and Dak eat dirt all afternoon. The Offense needs Zeke to get to the playoffs, oops, he is gone for 6 games. There is only one great player on Defense but he can not stay on the field due to injuries.

The Cowboys face a far better team in Philly next week. The season is as close to lose as you can get.

Go Cowboys

Disagree for the most part. He is not a Romo that can make turd into a win. But he is better overall if you give him a solid team.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

Romo was never under seige like what happened on Sunday, NEVER.....it was like here was no Left Tackle. Romo would've been out 6-8 weeks after that game even when he was younger...

This is just patently untrue.

For many years the line that we trotted out Sunday (two All Pros, two 1st rounders and a 3rd rounder) would have been a dream for Romo.

Simply not true.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Romo was never under seige like what happened on Sunday, NEVER.....it was like here was no Left Tackle. Romo would've been out 6-8 weeks after that game even when he was younger...

Hell yes Romo was under seige like that. for most of his career the Oline was terrible. No run game no defense.

 

[BHendri5]

I would agree to some extent, but if he is he is no different than Troy Aikman was, he needed Emmitt and Irvin and Novacek, Oline and Johnston and Harper plus defense

 

[KingintheNorth]

Dak is fine. He's a dual threat and when used right, he is a tough QB to defend.

He's good enough to win with this offense, despite a coaching deficiency and an inept Front Office.

He's not good enough to overcome this defense (fault of the inept Front Office). The defense has to get better. You can dominate time-of-possession every week and will still lose when your defense can't/won't stop anyone when it matters.

 

[Philmonroe]

Hell yes Romo was under seige like that. for most of his career the Oline was terrible. No run game no defense.

Shows you that most fan don't remember the past teams like that. I don't know what that poster talking about in regards to the early O line. Must've just became a fan a few years ago.

 

[Jake]

Keep in mind besides the sacks and pressures, how many plays were negated by a holding call?

Dallas was called for offensive holding 3 times. One was on a handoff to Smith, another was declined because Dak got sacked anyway.

So one pass play, a 10 yard completion to Beasley, was negated by a holding call.

 

[Grevus]

Dallas was called for offensive holding 3 times. One was on a handoff to Smith, another was declined because Dak got sacked anyway.

So one pass play, a 10 yard completion to Beasley, was negated by a holding call.

Thanks. I knew at least 1. Holding goes into my book basically the same as a sack.

 

[CowboyGil]

Wentz????????

Seriousloy? Wentz is less mobile than Dak. He would've been sacked 12 times.

 

[ghst187]

Give Tom Brady Chaz Green and his TB12 formula would be a laugher!

Brady had the best offense ever to play in a historic season until the NYG blitzed the crap out of him and he wilted too, twice

 

[mattjames2010]

Romo was never under seige like what happened on Sunday, NEVER.....it was like here was no Left Tackle. Romo would've been out 6-8 weeks after that game even when he was younger...

Romo would have never allowed someone who was getting beat that bad to not have help to that side. No freakin' way Romo would have allowed that to go on the entire game.

Now obviously, there is nothing you can do about an entire line breaking down which happened in Romo's career and I'm sure will happen to Dak at some point. But this was honestly one guy who was all bug begging for help, and neither Garrett nor Dak sent anyone over to help protect.

Anyone saying Dak is 0% at fault here is ignoring he gives commands at the line. No excuses for not putting a TE or RB over there for more protection. Garrett and Dak better sit down and have a long discussion about this.