PI on Lewis

[CalPolyTechnique]

The DB and WR have the same "rights" in attempting to get to the ball.

If the WR on that play had been a DB and Lewis had been the WR, people would want the Oakland player penalized for impeding the path of Lewis.

Exactly, but you missed the part about the DB not playing the ball.

 

[mardwin]

It was PI. Crabtree made a heads up play to draw the contact. Not sure how Carr kept escaping the pocket all night.

LBs were dropping back on coverage and no pressure from the inside. They really missed David Irving, Tyrone Crawford is a waste of roster space.

 

[BigD_95]

I don't watch college football. I find seeing a communications major who will have zero chance at the NFL trying to tackle a Heisman Trophy running back doesn't seem like much of a contest. Plus college has stupid rules like one foot in constitutes a catch, and if the player falls down, he cannot get back up.

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I would argue that there are some better rules in college.

to start the instant reply is automatic in college. You don't get 2 challenge's a game. How dumb is that? Either the call is right or not.

The OT rule in the NFL is down right dumb. If you win the kickoff and score a TD the game is over but if you get a field goal other team gets the ball. Oh and it only last 10 mins after that its a tie.

 

[kumizi]

You can complain about the state of penalties in today’s nfl if you want but that was an obvious and easy call. Multiple refs through their flags. If you don’t think that’s a penalty, you lack objectivity.

 

[JohnsKey19]

Easy call to make. He panicked.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

1st off, hate the call.
2nd, was anyone else screaming for a delay of game call against Oakland?

I thought there should have been a Delay of Game but I think there are close calls like that pretty regularly so I'm not shocked it wasn't.

I don't necessarily hate the call, cause he did interfere, but I hate how the game is officiated at this point to where a player can do what Crabtree did to just draw flags. It was clear Crabtree had decided to draw the flag the entire time, and was never going to actually try and make a play on the ball.

 

[ghst187]

It was PI. Crabtree made a heads up play to draw the contact. Not sure how Carr kept escaping the pocket all night.

I agree but it was massively lame and akin to flopping in the NBA.
Crabtree didn't really try for the ball, if Lewis wouldn't have panicked and started grabbing he probably would've been fine.

 

[CATCH17]

Was it that play or the last play of the game where both of our D Ends were tackled?

 

[Cowboys22]

Yeah, that’s what makes the position tough but hardly impossible.

The corner should be playing the ball not simply playing chase. I know our fans have gotten used to seeing crappy cornerback play over the years with players who couldn’t make a play on the ball to save their life, but there are good corners out there that actually play the ball.

The WR has a right to make a play on the ball regardless of where it’s thrown. Point blank.

No that's not true. If a DB has position, the WR is not allowed to go through them or interfere with them to get to the ball. I contend it should be the same thing on an underthrown deep ball. The DB actually has position in that case and the WR should not be allowed to simply stop and initiate contact to get a PI call. I agree with the call but my point was that I think the PI penalty should be tweaked so that PI is nullified if the WR stops or slows down significantly in front of a DB running full speed and draws contact. You could argue underthrown balls should be deemed uncatchable and thus no PI. I know it will never happen, it's just my opinion.

 

[tyke1doe]

Crabtree was going for the flag not the ball.

Terrible that the game has turned into making penalty’s happen instead of making plays

It's hard to be a defensive back in today's league.

 

[Nightman]

Anyone have video of the clock hitting zero?

I just watched it again and it was pretty simultaneous..... nothing to complain about

 

[Nightman]

I agree but it was massively lame and akin to flopping in the NBA.
Crabtree didn't really try for the ball, if Lewis wouldn't have panicked and started grabbing he probably would've been fine.

The contact wasn't egregious by Lewis but it was text book interference on a underthrown ball

Two or three refs threw a flag

 

[tyke1doe]

I thought there should have been a Delay of Game but I think there are close calls like that pretty regularly so I'm not shocked it wasn't.

I don't necessarily hate the call, cause he did interfere, but I hate how the game is officiated at this point to where a player can do what Crabtree did to just draw flags. It was clear Crabtree had decided to draw the flag the entire time, and was never going to actually try and make a play on the ball.

I call that smart football. I would hope our receivers would do the same.

 

[links18]

Was it that play or the last play of the game where both of our D Ends were tackled?

On the PI play one of our Dlinemen was literally pinned to the ground.

 

[CATCH17]

On the PI play one of our Dlinemen was literally pinned to the ground.

It was one of those crucial plays that our guys just got tackled on.

You can't just give the offense a free play to hold, push off, and do whatever they feel just because it's crucial in the game. It's crucial to our defense as well.

Our defensive ends got tackled and they couldn't have missed it.

 

[vaturkey]

Three officials flags hit the ground on top of each other on the call. Beyond obvious.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

I call that smart football. I would hope our receivers would do the same.

It was smart because it's how they're allowed to play. I feel like the receiver should at least be attempting to make a play on the ball, not just basically flopping around with contact to draw a flag.

But that's just me.

 

[tyke1doe]

It was smart because it's how they're allowed to play. I feel like the receiver should at least be attempting to make a play on the ball, not just basically flopping around with contact to draw a flag.

But that's just me.

I agree. But you play how they let you.

 

[viman96]

I thought it was a BS call

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

No that's not true. If a DB has position, the WR is not allowed to go through them or interfere with them to get to the ball. I contend it should be the same thing on an underthrown deep ball. The DB actually has position in that case and the WR should not be allowed to simply stop and initiate contact to get a PI call. I agree with the call but my point was that I think the PI penalty should be tweaked so that PI is nullified if the WR stops or slows down significantly in front of a DB running full speed and draws contact. You could argue underthrown balls should be deemed uncatchable and thus no PI. I know it will never happen, it's just my opinion.

You seem to keep missing the part of the DB playing the ball.

If the DB is not playing the ball, the receiver has every right to get to the ball.

To think that a receiver has to accommodate a DB that's blindly chasing him and not playing the ball in the air, by moving around him to make a play on the ball is just silly.