A reminder that Dak can play QB

[condoin125]

I don't think we're wasting the OL at all with Dak.

WR's I do think we are wasting and it's pointless to waste resources on them with Dak.

Start getting guys like the Doug Baldwins of the world in Seattle that don't cost a fortune.

OL and TE is where we need to continue to pump our resources offensively.

It seems to me that your approach with him is at least more realistic compared to some others here. I think we're just at odds with how we think this offense can work. I think you'd be fine with an offense that's limited to what he can do at a good or decent level. I'm not a fan of that type of system even with a good defense because there are too many things we'd have to remove from the playbook in order to compensate him. All we're doing is limiting what we can do with the ball and it's a scheme that's easier to stop...especially since our Oline isn't all world any longer. Another thing is, why would we want to give a big contract in a couple of years to a guy who's so limited? Makes no sense if we have to have a super team around him in order to be successful.

 

[BobSacamano]

Links no work. Opinion invalidated.

 

[Diehardblues]

Sure, when you get sacked 8 times and the Oline forgets how to block. More pressure=less accuracy. Simple formula.

Its like you Romo cry babies act like everything was the same. Looks like your going to be a miserable guy for along time. Dak will be the QB for the next 10 years.

I was a huge supporter of Dak last year. I pat him him on the back when he plays well and we have success and critique him when he doesn’t and we lose just like I did with Romo.

And if we don’t have anymore success than we did the last 10 years I’ll be just as miserable.

Sorry I was hoping for a more elite QB this time around.

 

[charron]

Dak is average. Can live with him at his current salary but we need to keep drafting potential guys and continue grooming someone untill a real qb emerges.

 

[Zman5]

Dak has one more year to show who he really is. Is he more like the 2016 Dak or the 2017 Dak? It's really hard to judge a QB who only started 2 years. He's shown he can be really good and really bad.

BTW, here is a stat line for a QB in his first two year as a starter. Take a guess who this qb is. He also had a top RB and a overall good skill players around him.

QBrec, Cmp, Att, Cmp%, Yds, TD, Int, Y/A, Y/G, Rate

8-8-0, 320, 526, 60.8, 3284, 17, 16, 6.2,  205.3, 76.9
2-9-0, 205, 356, 57.6, 2108, 11, 15, 5.9, 191.6,  67.5

This is what he did in his third year which was a significant improvement.

11-4-0, 262, 400, 65.5, 3159, 27, 7, 7.9, 210.6,104.8

 

[cowboyec]

I think Dak is the right guy.
22 wins.
1 division title.
despite his worst season...still completed 61%,over 3,000 yds,21tds.
111.1QBR vs the blitz...3rd best.

needs to continue to work on mechanics...like every young QB...but this guy has a lions-heart...he is worth waiting on.

 

[thisiscowboyscountry]

Two QBs through their first two seasons. One is Prescott, the other is Wilson. Pretty similar stats, both with strong running games, but Wilson had an elite defense. Prescott definitely has areas of his game he needs to improve, but giving up on him is way too early.

Player 1: 6991 passing yards, 45/17 td/int, 65.2 cmp%, 22-10 record, 639 rushing yards 12 tds
Player 2: 6475 passing yards, 52/19 td/int, 63.6 cmp%, 24-8 record, 1028 rushing yards 5 tds

 

[Tarheelcowboy]

Dak is terrible I said it last year even when they were winning. He passes are high and he can't hit a guy in stride 8 times out of ten. He will not throw the ball down the field. This defenses stacking the box.

He is terrible. There are more than five QBs I take ahead of him and one is his back up.

 

[CATCH17]

Dak is average. Can live with him at his current salary but we need to keep drafting potential guys and continue grooming someone untill a real qb emerges.

Blake Bortles is average. He’s better then Bortles.

 

[Diehardblues]

Blake Bortles is average. He’s better then Bortles.

I definitely thought so last year but not as sure now. Sad we're even comparing .

 

[condoin125]

Blake Bortles is average. He’s better then Bortles.

I think Bortles has a higher ceiling...who knows if he'll reach it or come close.

 

[JoeKing]

dang I bet you can find some videos of Weeden throwing great passes too, to prove he's a great QB too. lmao..

Just ask Floaty for them.

 

[Bullflop]

Dak's performance this year was largely the end product of an OL that failed substantially in its pass protection throughout the 2018 season.

Any QB, especially a relatively young and inexperienced one, is susceptible to having a less than impressive season anytime that exists.

 

[mardwin]

You speak in such absolutes.

His mechanics do need some work but to say no arm talent, no accuracy, no pocket presense... That's just wrong.

He's not wrong, he's just sharing "FACTS". Dak has an average at best QB arm, very inconsistent with his accuracy from the pocket and can't step up in the pocket when the pressure is coming from the edges. Spend some time studying his tape and these obvious issues will come to light.

 

[wssaustin]

I think Dak is the right guy.
22 wins.
1 division title.
despite his worst season...still completed 61%,over 3,000 yds,21tds.
111.1QBR vs the blitz...3rd best.

needs to continue to work on mechanics...like every young QB...but this guy has a lions-heart...he is worth waiting on.

Good Cherry pick, People may argue the same about Rex Grossman, heck he even took Bears to superbowl. It is not about the stats, it is about the trend. He reached high and started regressing down, that's what we don't want to see.

 

[cowboyec]

Good Cherry pick, People may argue the same about Rex Grossman, heck he even took Bears to superbowl. It is not about the stats, it is about the trend. He reached high and started regressing down, that's what we don't want to see.

not cherry pickin'......he has work to do.
Im just pushing back on some of the non-sense.

 

[CATCH17]

Two QBs through their first two seasons. One is Prescott, the other is Wilson. Pretty similar stats, both with strong running games, but Wilson had an elite defense. Prescott definitely has areas of his game he needs to improve, but giving up on him is way too early.

Player 1: 6991 passing yards, 45/17 td/int, 65.2 cmp%, 22-10 record, 639 rushing yards 12 tds
Player 2: 6475 passing yards, 52/19 td/int, 63.6 cmp%, 24-8 record, 1028 rushing yards 5 tds

Basically identical.

 

[Staubacher]

Dak has one more year to show who he really is. Is he more like the 2016 Dak or the 2017 Dak? It's really hard to judge a QB who only started 2 years. He's shown he can be really good and really bad.

BTW, here is a stat line for a QB in his first two year as a starter. Take a guess who this qb is. He also had a top RB and a overall good skill players around him.

QBrec, Cmp, Att, Cmp%, Yds, TD, Int, Y/A, Y/G, Rate

8-8-0, 320, 526, 60.8, 3284, 17, 16, 6.2,  205.3, 76.9
2-9-0, 205, 356, 57.6, 2108, 11, 15, 5.9, 191.6,  67.5

This is what he did in his third year which was a significant improvement.

11-4-0, 262, 400, 65.5, 3159, 27, 7, 7.9, 210.6,104.8

Dak ain't no Drew Brees.

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

Dak is average. Can live with him at his current salary but we need to keep drafting potential guys and continue grooming someone untill a real qb emerges.

Dak was way above average in 2016 and before Zeke's suspension last year. So he was only average for about half a season (in 2 years).

 

[armadillooutlaw]

IMO, long term for Dak to be a franchise QB, he has to be able to handle pressure better, cannot be at the mercy of Zeke Elliott and HAS to show growth as a pocket passer. He has to own the short and intermediate throws consistently and has to be willing to challenge the defense deep- and has to be successful when he does. I believe he can become better at handling pressure as he gains experience, can he improve as a pocket passer? To succeed from the pocket he has to be more consistent on his intermediate throws in particular. He has shown the ability to throw them well at times- can he gain the consistency necessary to do it on a regular basis? To me, it's footwork.