Tremaine Edmunds

[cnuball21]

Jaylon played MIKE exclusively last season. He is fine taking on blocks and his recognition improved markedly as the season progressed.

Go back and read the scouting report on Smith. His strength is playing free and running to the ball. His weakness is taking on and shedding blocks. He played MIKE last year because he had to when Hitch went down. His weaknesses showed.

 

[Sydla]

I think Smith would be a better WILL than MIKE.

 

[conner01]

I'd go Edmunds over Roquan.

Me too
But don’t think either will be there
What’s behind door number 3 is probably something to look at

 

[KingintheNorth]

Dude is a Justin Houston clone. He will start by playing the backside in a 3-4 D, just being the designated 4th rusher. Give him some seasoning and he'll be an All-Pro and complete 3-4 OLB.

There is some uncertainty amongst scouts exactly what Edmunds is, but many feel he is a MIKE. I've seen very little that suggest he is the 3-4 backside edge rusher that you suggest. I could see him as the 3-4 LOLB spot, covering TE's and occasionally rushing. He's much more Anthony Spencer than he is DeMarcus Ware.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

Go back and read the scouting report on Smith. His strength is playing free and running to the ball. His weakness is taking on and shedding blocks. He played MIKE last year because he had to when Hitch went down. His weaknesses showed.

The "scouting" reports don't even really matter. What's important is what's demonstrated on the field. On the field, Jaylon clearly struggled taking on blockers. Was some of that do to his injury and getting used to field action? We'll see this upcoming season. In my mind whatever Jaylon you get this season (in terms of health) is what you get.

 

[cnuball21]

The "scouting" reports don't even really matter. What's important is what's demonstrated on the field. On the field, Jaylon clearly struggled taking on blockers. Was some of that do to his injury and getting used to field action? We'll see this upcoming season. In my mind whatever Jaylon you get this season (in terms of health) is what you get.

Wel they kind of do matter, as the scouting reports accurately forecasted what he struggled with on the field.

They aren't always right, but often give you a good idea of what to expect.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Go back and read the scouting report on Smith. His strength is playing free and running to the ball. His weakness is taking on and shedding blocks. He played MIKE last year because he had to when Hitch went down. His weaknesses showed.

How about you go back and watch the games from last year. I prefer to think for myself.

He practiced at MIKE exclusively in training camp before Hitchens got hurt. Cool story though.

And he was fine taking on blocks. He sure as heck stacked and shed better than Lee and Hitchens. His issues were biting hard on play fakes, not recognizing route combinations run at him, and terrible gap integrity. All of those improved.

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

For those that really put weight in age, as I do. Edmunds will be 19 years old the day of the draft.

He will only be the 2nd 19 year old to ever be drafted, the first was in 2007.

Talk about upside.

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

How about you go back and watch the games from last year. I prefer to think for myself.

He practiced at MIKE exclusively in training camp before Hitchens got hurt. Cool story though.

And he was fine taking on blocks. He sure as heck stacked and shed better than Lee and Hitchens. His issues were biting hard on play fakes, not recognizing route combinations run at him, and terrible gap integrity. All of those improved.

Lets ask this.

Was Jaylon absolutely god awful during the beginning of the season playing MIKE while Hitchens was ouy? Yes.

Did Jaylon play much better later on after Hitchens and allowed him to sub in at SAM? Yes.

Also saying he stacked and shed better than Hitchens and Lee is an absolutely ridiculous statement that should never be repeated.

Cnu is right.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Lets ask this.

Was Jaylon absolutely god awful during the beginning of the season playing MIKE while Hitchens was ouy? Yes.

Did Jaylon play much better later on after Hitchens and allowed him to sub in at SAM? Yes.

Also saying he stacked and shed better than Hitchens and Lee is an absolutely ridiculous statement that should never be repeated.

Cnu is right.

Hitchens is terrible at taking on blocks. He gets taken for rides quite often. Lee is great at avoiding blocks and is protected but he does not do a great job once engaged. I watched Jaylon take on guards and hold his ground and shed. It is what it is.

And you really think that Jaylon was lining up on the line and playing SAM at any point this past season?

You're new here so maybe you are not familiar with me but I watch every game multiple times and breakdown the players performance. You obviously have no idea what you are watching.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

For those that really put weight in age, as I do. Edmunds will be 19 years old the day of the draft.

He will only be the 2nd 19 year old to ever be drafted, the first was in 2007.

Talk about upside.

If he runs a 4.7 then it doesn't matter he won't be able to hang with NFL RB and TE much less receivers. His upside in our system is at SAM.

 

[beware_d-ware]

I couldn't believe when I heard that Edmunds is 19 years old. Dude was starting D-1 football games at 16 too, he's an absolute freak.

That actually raises my evaluation of him quite a bit, because not only is it possible for him to get even bigger and faster, it's likely. Reminds me of when we drafted a 20 yo Tyron at 6'5" 285, and 2 or 3 years later he was 6'5" 320 and still had that same freaky agility. Edmunds has that level of upside.

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

Hitchens is terrible at taking on blocks. He gets taken for rides quite often. Lee is great at avoiding blocks and is protected but he does not do a great job once engaged. I watched Jaylon take on guards and hold his ground and shed. It is what it is.

And you really think that Jaylon was lining up on the line and playing SAM at any point this past season?

You're new here so maybe you are not familiar with me but I watch every game multiple times and breakdown the players performance. You obviously have no idea what you are watching.

I dont care who you are? How long youve been here doesnt mean much. It's very apparent that those multiple times of watching the game don't do you much good, you dont seem to grasp anything from watching.

You think that playing SAM means you're lined up on the LOS.... wow that's a new one lmao.

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

If he runs a 4.7 then it doesn't matter he won't be able to hang with NFL RB and TE much less receivers. His upside in our system is at SAM.

Sean Lee ran a 4.71 eight years, guess he cant keep up with RBs and TEs then.

What a stupid statement.

Not too mention you pulling 4.7 40 out of thin air as if thats what Edmunds is going to run. Most jave him pidgeonholed as a 4.55 guy, Zierlien even said "dont try to make a comp for his. A guy with his size and speed can likely only be compared to a basketball player."

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Sean Lee ran a 4.71 eight years, guess he cant keep up with RBs and TEs then.

What a stupid statement.

Not too mention you pulling 4.7 40 out of thin air as if thats what Edmunds is going to run. Most jave him pidgeonholed as a 4.55 guy, Zierlien even said "dont try to make a comp for his. A guy with his size and speed can likely only be compared to a basketball player."

Lee ran a 4.8 at the combine and a 4.6 at his proday.

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=57297&draftyear=2010&genpos=ILB

And I said the word "if" in that 4.7 statement. Shall we go over what the word means?

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

Thanks new guy.

In this scheme the SAM lines up on the los. That is precisely how Wilson and Wilber have been doing it for the past several years.

This is boring and I am not going to waste my time arguing with a fool. If you want to believe that Marinelli plays his SAM off the line then have fun with that.

Thanks new guy.

In this scheme the SAM lines up on the los. That is precisely how Wilson and Wilber have been doing it for the past several years.

This is boring and I am not going to waste my time arguing with a fool. If you want to believe that Marinelli plays his SAM off the line then have fun with that.

You can't honestly believe this? Lmao.

So in our base defense with a SAM you think that we have 5 on the line at all time.

Are you serious right now?

Im in disbelief.

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

Lee ran a 4.8 at the combine and a 4.6 at his proday.

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=57297&draftyear=2010&genpos=ILB

And I said the word "if" in that 4.7 statement. Shall we go over what the word means?

Whats your point on Lee...?

The source I was 4.71. So again can Lee not cover TEs and RBs if he runs a 4.7? Thats what you just said.

Ohhhh "if" so you just made up this completely hypthetical scenario based off of nothing. If Jessica Simpson is 350 pounds I wouldn't **** her. Am I doing this right? Just completely arbitrary comments based on nothing.

Shall we go over that LBs who run a 4.7 and slower cover NFL TEs and RBs all the time?

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

Anthony Hitchens ran a 4.74 at the combine.

He was 3rd in the entire league in coverage snaps per reception allowed.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

You can't honestly believe this? Lmao.

So in our base defense with a SAM you think that we have 5 on the line at all time.

Are you serious right now?

Im in disbelief.

That is our base defense. He aligns it as such to get single blocking for the RDE and 3T. Now of course there are shifts and the like but you never saw Smith lined up like that.

Thanks for playing. This thread of the conversation is also boring now. Ciao.

 

[KingintheNorth]

I couldn't believe when I heard that Edmunds is 19 years old. Dude was starting D-1 football games at 16 too, he's an absolute freak.

That actually raises my evaluation of him quite a bit, because not only is it possible for him to get even bigger and faster, it's likely. Reminds me of when we drafted a 20 yo Tyron at 6'5" 285, and 2 or 3 years later he was 6'5" 320 and still had that same freaky agility. Edmunds has that level of upside.

Same.

Had we not won that meaningless game against the Eagles, we might have had a legit shot at drafting this (literal)kid.